2011 pre cycle/summer diet and training

[boxa06]

To be honest mate, given the amount of gear you've taken I would have expected more. Either the stuff is underdosed, or you're doin it wrong.

What gear? Haven't touched any gear yet..

[boxa06]

Update last day of week 8.

Yesterday did another carb load because I was doing physical work all day. I woke up this morning lighter after eating 4 serves of 40-45g carb meals which were the first 4 meals of the day.
Other than that diet remained the same throughout the week.

I found by taking oats in my pwo shake I wasn't recovering as well and didn't feel as energized the next training session. But one thing I did notice was I didn't get that sugar crash a few hours after training I had sometimes. In conclusion I prefer the faster acting carbs but when upping my carbs later on I may start using a combination of both and see how that goes.

[boxa06]

Update: last day of week 8 was the final day of my pre cycle stage. That night I started my cycle which I decided on..

Weeks 1-12 test enanthate 400mg (230mg pinned e4d)
Weeks 1-4 stanazol 60mg eod
Weeks 8-12 stanazol 60mg eod
Weeks 1-14 anastrozole .25mg ed

Pct 14 days after final pin
Tamoxifen 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50/50

Friday night decided to front load the test e. Only the first shot so put in 460mg.

[auslifta]

Are you going to keep the cycle log going here or start a new one? Before cycle pics? Goodluck.

[boxa06]

Are you going to keep the cycle log going here or start a new one? Before cycle pics? Goodluck.

Thanks bro! I'm thinking of starting a new thread some time this week when I get time to upload pics. I've kept a camera in my bathroom for the last 2 weeks lol so I've got pics to post up..

[boxa06]

Update: today i was starving so i increased carbs back up to 60 at breakfast, 60 pre wo and 60 pwo.

also stared to feel flu like syptoms yesterday and i'm not sure if it was from the winny or liquidex. i have experienced similar syptoms from winny before so i will discontinue winny and liquidex for now.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...zzy&highlight=

[boxa06]

This is what my current diet and training look like with those carb changes included from yesterday..

Stats:
76.5kg
10-12% bf
24.5" quads
43" chest
15.25" arms
31" waist

Training 5 day split
Back
Chest and abs
Legs
Shoulders and abs(abs sometimes done on arm day)
Arms

Weights usually take 40-50mins and consist of 5 or 6 exercises with 4 to 6 sets. Eg. back day is 5 back exercises whereas chest and ab day would be 4 of chest and 2 ab.
Cardio done after each weight session at 50-70% of max heart rate for 40 mins.

Diet
Protein /carbs/fat

Meal 1 8.30 am
100g of oats
300g egg whites
30g whey
Universal animal pak
500mg vit c
64/60/9

Meal 2 10.30-11am
200g chicken breast
200 veggies
60/6/7

Meal 3 1.30pm
Same as meal 2

Meal 4 4-4.30pm
Large tin of tuna
100g oats
47/60/15

5.45 pre workout . Jacked, hemo rage etc..

Meal 5 7-7.30pm
45g of wpi
64g dextrose
40/60/0

Meal 6 8.30pm
210g home made lean beef patty
200g veggies
60/6/10

Meal 7 11pm
50g micellar casien
4 1000mg fish oil tabs
1 500mg calcium tab
40/2/5

Total 371/200/53
Total calories 2758


Non lifting days I will not eat pre or pwo carbs.

I sometimes have to work physically once a week (2nd job) usually on a thursday and I add some carbs throughout the day whilst I am at work. The last few weeks I have loaded up 40g-50g of carbs into my first 4 meals of this day and has not effected my weight.

[Blaz Kavlic]

Looks like you're just about ready to rock 'n roll mate. Best of luck with it all and keep those progress pics coming!

[boxa06]

Looks like you're just about ready to rock 'n roll mate. Best of luck with it all and keep those progress pics coming!

Thanks bro! I'll post pics up soon!

[boxa06]

Update: took another shot of winny last night and had major dizziness and sick feeling today so I took 200mg of ibuprofen which is helping. It seems that the last 2 times I took a shot of winny I got really dizzy the next day.

So far I have taken
460mg of test e and 60mg of winny Friday night (right glute and left delt)
60mg winny Sunday night (right delt) then had mayor dizziness the following day
230mg of test e and 60mg of winny (mixed in my right quad)

I am gonna stop the winny and see how I go with just the test. Next shot is due on sat.

[Blaz Kavlic]

I am gonna stop the winny and see how I go with just the test. Next shot is due on sat.

Wise move cuz. If you can put the dizziness down to the Winny, sack it I reckon. Report back and let us know if there's any improvement.

[boxa06]

So it's been 3 days since my last winny shot and also my last test e shot. Due for another test e shot tomorrow and feeling better so far. I will see how I go over the weekend after having that test e shot. If I feel fine it's 100% the winny that made me feel that way.

Amazingly I've still done all my training through this and have decided to stop taking pre workout for a while just incase it raises my bp. I'll stick to coffee pre workout. Also I've put on just over a kg in the last week. It's either the winny that did it or the front load of test e.. Or both! My muscles feel full and rock hard!

[auslifta]

Maybe should of waited a week or two for the stana until your test levels get up.
So you will be dropping the stana all together now?
Will you be runing HCG during this cycle?

[boxa06]

Maybe should of waited a week or two for the stana until your test levels get up.
So you will be dropping the stana all together now?
Will you be runing HCG during this cycle?

Yea that's exactly what I thought about the stanazol so I posted my proposed cycle with that as one of the questions and marcus300 said to start them together.

This is the 2nd time now that something bad has happened when I've put in stana/winny so I have come to the conclusion that it's just not for me I may drop it all together

I didn't think it was a heavy enough cycle to be running hcg but do you think I should?

[auslifta]

Yeah you should, not dependant on heavy or not, it will help with recovery and that means keeping gains. You could probably do without the arimidex , but since you started may as well continue. Good idea dropping the stana, your body obviously doesnt like it.

[boxa06]

Yeah you should, not dependant on heavy or not, it will help with recovery and that means keeping gains. You could probably do without the arimidex, but since you started may as well continue. Good idea dropping the stana, your body obviously doesnt like it.

What would you suggest for hcg ? Last few weeks of my cycle and up to the beginning of pct? I stopped dosing the arimidex on Sunday because I origionally thought that was what was making me feel crappy. Why do you think I don't need this? My fist test cycle I had sore nipples, bloating and facial acne. Would this help with those sides?

[auslifta]

What would you suggest for hcg ? Last few weeks of my cycle and up to the beginning of pct? I stopped dosing the arimidex on Sunday because I origionally thought that was what was making me feel crappy. Why do you think I don't need this? My fist test cycle I had sore nipples, bloating and facial acne. Would this help with those sides?

Ah ok, I thought this was your first cycle. HCG 250iu's twice a week up until start of PCT. If you're going to do HCG last few weeks do 500iu's 3 times a week for last 4 weeks up until PCT.

[boxa06]

Ah ok, I thought this was your first cycle. HCG 250iu's twice a week up until start of PCT. If you're going to do HCG last few weeks do 500iu's 3 times a week for last 4 weeks up until PCT.

Thanks for the tip bro! Hows 1500iu's a week for last 3 weeks up to pct sound? I can get packs of 3 times 1500iu. I'll divide the shots as you said..

[boxa06]

Today woke up this morning with wood that won't go down lol weighed myself and came in at 78kgs so I've gained 1.5kgs in the past week. Still feeling a bit crappy but I'm feeling better than wed. Due for another shot tonight so hopefully tomorrow I wake up feeling alright meaning it was the winny that made me feel that way.

[auslifta]

Thanks for the tip bro! Hows 1500iu's a week for last 3 weeks up to pct sound? I can get packs of 3 times 1500iu. I'll divide the shots as you said..

Thats better than nothing I spose. It will be harder for them to come back than it would be to keep them, if you know what I mean?

[boxa06]

Thats better than nothing I spose. It will be harder for them to come back than it would be to keep them, if you know what I mean?

How about if I get 2 packs and run 6 weeks? I'll double check what I can get then I'll post it up for you to look over if you wouldn't mind.. Thanks for the input bro!

[auslifta]

Sounds good. No worries

[boxa06]

Day 10 weighed in at 78.5kgs. Felt really hungry yesterday so ate a bit more protein. Put on 2kgs so far and I recon alot is water as my muscles are looking fuller. Also lifted hevier this morning at training.

Still feeling a bit crappy. It comes and goes and sometimes I'm getting hot flushes. Feels like there is pressure on my head.. I'll check my bp again tonight and make sure it's still in the right range.

Shot my left glute last night with 230mg test.

[boxa06]

Day 10 measurements were

Waist 31"
Arms 15.5"
Legs 25"
Chest 43.5"
Calves 16.5"

[boxa06]

Day 11 woke up today still feeling slight pressure on the head but the second half of yesterday I felt awesome! So I'm definitely improving weighed 79.3kg this morning!

Yesterday I ate more again but always stick to lean proteins sources and fiberous veg.

[boxa06]

the log will continue in this following thread: 2011/12 Summer Test Enanthate Cycle Log

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hate-Cycle-Log