Tren/Mast/Test Cycle w/log

[gambit85]

I use the 1/2cc syringes but yes u are right on dose. U can get back water on Amazon. Don't think u can get it without script at pharmacy

Thanks I better order the water then, and the sterile vile also on amazon?
How about the injection, skin fold on stomach works or IM is better?

[MR-FQ320]

OP didn't you start another thread stating you were competing in 8 weeks?

[gambit85]

OP didn't you start another thread stating you were competing in 8 weeks?

Yes I have this thread, in nutrition, in member cycle, in competition, in workout advice.
Diff people may see it in different places, im open to as much info I can get!!

[gambit85]

Pretty low doses IMO. Id say do something like 350 test, 350 mast, and 525 tren . I didn't mind ed injections. Would be 2.5cc of oil everyday. Glutes and quads can handed that no problem. So there's 4 days. 5th day do half in each shoulder. 6th day split it up between bi's/tri's. 7th day split it up in lats. I would only hit each body part once a week.


*edit* actually less than 2.5 since your mast isn't 100mg/ml

hmmm is it really bad to hit the same spot multiple times a week? whats the consequences, what happens? worse absorption? potential for ****ups?

[Lunk1]

hmmm is it really bad to hit the same spot multiple times a week? whats the consequences, what happens? worse absorption? potential for ****ups?

The biggest issue is scar tissue buildup...we are talking about over alot of time.

[gambit85]

The biggest issue is scar tissue buildup...we are talking about over alot of time.

So I dont have to worry about anything short term, I mean if I really dont plan on doing lots of cycles, I can hit my quads every other time and be fine? like 2-3 times for same leg in a day, and will I still get issues if I move around within the same 4 inch square on my leg.

no real issues with that much oil flowing through the muscle or it not absorbing as well?
glute is zeropain too but its hard to turn around and do it to myself like thigh is mad control.

[gambit85]

Update.



Just did my first shot of hcg .
Also...
Split a bottle of dbol with my roomate since we cant take all 100 tabs of 20 mg in a single cycle anyways.
I am gonna do 10 days of dbol now, then finish my cut, compete then run 15 more days of dbol @ 40mg/day after my competition.

updated my log with aromasin , hcg and dbol..and some rep weights. Still need to find caber.. can you order it anywhere?

[OnTheSauce]

Your legs are going to start hurting pretty bad. U need to rotate sites.

[gambit85]

Your legs are going to start hurting pretty bad. U need to rotate sites.

basically jsut learned to do glutes super easy, painless, controlled and not even worried about it, so its on a 4 spot rotiation, do you still think i really need to incorporate more spots patrick??

[OnTheSauce]

If u are pinning every day or 36hrs as u are. I don't know why more ppl don't use their lats. Its painless and easy to reach. I prefer my triceps over everything else

[Far from massive]

I have done several variations of this same cycle ( loved them all ) and I have never done less test than 250 wk. So I can't say I speak from experience but I agree with most everyone that your test should be higher.

As far as the Prami and AI's I really doubt you will need either ( though its good to have them on hand, never can tell both mast and tren are often faked with another compound so in case your mast is test or something like that you may need them LOL). Anyway assuming all the compounds are what they are supposed to be then as long as estrogen is kept in check, you wont need the Prami. And with a larger dose of Mast than Test the Mast will keep test aromatization under control.

Also to each his own but for me I prefer to pin everyday. By loading all the compounds into one syringe you can keep pain and any tren cough to a minimum and even if you only use Glutes/Delts/Thighs you will only be returning to the same spot every 6th day which as long as you are using compounds with enough oil to be easily absorbed ( yours definately will be with 50mg/ml Mast) you most likely will not have any problems with sites particularly with the small doses you will be using ( my current blast is Tren/Mast/TestC at 800/700/350 and I have no issues at all).

Anyway good luck with the cycle, the hard dry gains will be off the hook and look for your appetite to go through the roof from the Masteron .

FFM

[gambit85]

I have done several variations of this same cycle ( loved them all ) and I have never done less test than 250 wk. So I can't say I speak from experience but I agree with most everyone that your test should be higher.

As far as the Prami and AI's I really doubt you will need either ( though its good to have them on hand, never can tell both mast and tren are often faked with another compound so in case your mast is test or something like that you may need them LOL). Anyway assuming all the compounds are what they are supposed to be then as long as estrogen is kept in check, you wont need the Prami. And with a larger dose of Mast than Test the Mast will keep test aromatization under control.

Also to each his own but for me I prefer to pin everyday. By loading all the compounds into one syringe you can keep pain and any tren cough to a minimum and even if you only use Glutes/Delts/Thighs you will only be returning to the same spot every 6th day which as long as you are using compounds with enough oil to be easily absorbed ( yours definately will be with 50mg/ml Mast) you most likely will not have any problems with sites particularly with the small doses you will be using ( my current blast is Tren/Mast/TestC at 800/700/350 and I have no issues at all).

Anyway good luck with the cycle, the hard dry gains will be off the hook and look for your appetite to go through the roof from the Masteron .

FFM

Thanks for the info! I am sure my masteron is legit, I am like 1-2 connections from the guy who runs the UGL. My masteron is 150mg/ml, and I am shooting all in one barrel, but not hitting delts, so the prolactin increase shouldnt be worried about too much beyond gyno? I just found caber and its about 200$/year supply at 0.25mg/e3d not too bad at all other then I dont need that much lol.

Good to know about the appetite, im on a strict exact diet so ill have to fight that one.

Patrick: I have never seen an im injection site diagram out where to do a lat, nor can I even think of how ill hit my own lat, can you link me to something? Or even tricep, how do you properly pin with one hand?

[OnTheSauce]

Experience I guess. I just tried it. I use slin pins in my triceps and biceps. 25g 1" in lats

[gambit85]

Experience I guess. I just tried it. I use slin pins in my triceps and biceps. 25g 1" in lats

seriously? you use an insulin pin in your tricep to shoot upwards of 2 ml of oil in? how long does it take to unload 2 ml at 30 guage? and that is really long enuf to break into muscle from tricep and bicep eh crazy..
do you heat the barrel with warm water before injecting?

[Live for the PUMP]

Good luck on this beastly cycle bro. You are looking great from the starting point. How many cycles have you done before?

[t-gunz]

i havent read the whole log. but i see some guys posted 'up the dose'

mroe gear doesnt always mean more muscle mass. it mostly will mean more sides.

ive used high doses or test and even low doses as in 200-300mg a week say with tren at 350mg a week.

if you can grow well on low doses then why up it??????

but anyways way the pics you lookd good brother. best of luck with cycle

[gambit85]

Good luck on this beastly cycle bro. You are looking great from the starting point. How many cycles have you done before?

This is my 3rd cycle, I have pics from 2 years ago where I look just like that, 100% natty.
I did one cycle 500mg test E then pct and 6 month break after pct finished
then 600mg ew test e +anavar then pct and 4 month break + bw
now to this cycle.

[gambit85]

i havent read the whole log. but i see some guys posted 'up the dose'

mroe gear doesnt always mean more muscle mass. it mostly will mean more sides.

ive used high doses or test and even low doses as in 200-300mg a week say with tren at 350mg a week.

if you can grow well on low doses then why up it??????

but anyways way the pics you lookd good brother. best of luck with cycle

ya tgunz until I have some decent proof of WHY I should up my test while on tren then I wont do it. Im loving this atm, no sides at all that I cant handle, and def noticing some positive shit going on.
I am running 140 test prop ew and 350 tren ew and 525 mast ew, if I lose my sex drive ill up the test, until then my cycle is staying as is, will add clen in closer to comp and caber as soon as I get my hands on it.
otherwise im really happy with this as is. I will take any advise but like to see some solid logic behind it before making a decision.
thanks for the support everyone, ill continue to update as I progress.

[gambit85]

Hey do you guys heat up the barrel with hot water before injecting?? nvm got answer

[gambit85]

decent results for 20 days..

day 5 on left day 20 on right
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feeling great, motivation is through the roof!!

[gearbox]

definitely tell a difference..keep up he good work...

[gambit85]

definitely tell a difference..keep up he good work...

THANKS GB!
I will post pics every 10 days or so, 5 weeks left to comp.. so pumped I love this cycle , my strength is improving each and everytime I hit the gym, I am gaining muscle, losing fat, more ripped and vascular, and I have had a total of 2-3 days out of the 20 days ive been running tren where I experienced any sides at all. That was some night sweats, no aggression, no cough, or even finadick with my low dose of 140 prop ew

[gambit85]

hey guys my blood pressure systolic is up aroujnd 145 for last 2 days, i kno tren raises it but should this be something I am actually concerned about and need to see a dr about fixing??

[t-gunz]

keep an eye on the blood pressure see how it is.

[t-gunz]

btw results are coming along very nicely.


i assume strength gains are through the roof on tren .

my lifts always impress me on tren lol

[gambit85]

btw results are coming along very nicely.


i assume strength gains are through the roof on tren .

my lifts always impress me on tren lol

YAAA dude my strength is going up EACH time I hit the gym, I used to barely squeeze off 385*1 deadlift last time I did 405 np coulda gone heavier but didnt

[gambit85]

Started cycle at 151 lbs exactly 1 month ago, today... 166.8 lb, my bulk is over, 4 weeks to cut now

Also upped the dosages on tren and test, to see if I would notice any diff, def seeing size increases and water retention, now time to focus on reduced calories and watch tren/masteron do their magic.


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[Randy_Mar]

Gambit...
I'm close to the same size, weight, b/f% as you. My cycle that I want to run in December seems close to this one. Basically the same test and tren dosages (minus the Masteron .) I've been thinking about adding in the Masteron at about 400mg/wk. Can you or anyone chime in and tell me what key differences to look for be by adding the Mast to the tren/test cycle? What kind of changes have you noticed, besides increased appetite?

[gambit85]

Gambit...
I'm close to the same size, weight, b/f% as you. My cycle that I want to run in December seems close to this one. Basically the same test and tren dosages (minus the Masteron.) I've been thinking about adding in the Masteron at about 400mg/wk. Can you or anyone chime in and tell me what key differences to look for be by adding the Mast to the tren/test cycle? What kind of changes have you noticed, besides increased appetite?

I believe the biggest gain from masteron is the cut, dry hard look you get.. making it and tren perfect for a precomp cycle.

I have changed my doses to the following and as you can see am getting great gains.



with these doses and pinning every 36 hours my doses are 233/420/560 mg ew test/tren/mast

[Randy_Mar]

I believe the biggest gain from masteron is the cut, dry hard look you get.. making it and tren perfect for a precomp cycle.

I have changed my doses to the following and as you can see am getting great gains.



with these doses and pinning every 36 hours my doses are 233/420/560 mg ew test/tren/mast

Nice progress! And good looking chart that you are keeping. (You definitely got your sh*t together!)
I just noticed a difference in my cycle would be I'm running the longer ester.

I guess the Mast wouldn't be much help for me, since I don't compete. I'm wondering if the Mast contributes to any strength gains? I'm sure the majority will come from the Tren.