Cycle Check

[armyranger516862006]

Ok guys I am just doing this for an example.

Cycle
1-16 Test E 800mg/ 400 Twice week
1-12 Tren E 300mg/ 150 Twice week/ maybe bumping up to 400 depending on sides
1-4 Halotestin 40mg ED/ Off days 20mg

Support Supps
1-16 Arimidex 0.5 EOD or ED if needed.
3-7 HCG 500iu Twice week, then 13-16 HCG 500iu Twice week again
1-20 Liv 52
Multivitamin

PCT
Clomid 150mg Day 1 and 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
HCgenerate Test Booster

Ok guys does everything look ok here or are there any adjustments i should take? This will begin March or April Next year.
Also there is a question i have about all the orals and i mean multi and liv 52 too. Can they all be taken the same time? Would the absorption be interfered with?
Last HCG I heard about HCG Blast but read that it could destroy the cells, is that true?
Thanks a bunch!!

PS my stats 26/ two cycle history: Test E 1-12 with Dbol kickstart and Test e Halotestin kickstart/ 15% BF but am gonna drop a little this winter to prepare for the spring/summer lean gain.

[austinite]

Hey buddy.

That's a fair dose of Test. I'm curious why you chose 800mg. Also curious why 16 weeks?

I'd bring that down to 12 weeks. If you do go with 16 weeks, I'd consider a bit more aggressive PCT.

[armyranger516862006]

I was thinking about doing the same. I will drop it to 12 weeks. I had done 500 past two cycles and thought i would bump it up to see if there was any diff. Should i just stick with 500? Thanks!

[OnTheSauce]

I personally only use halo 2 weeks at a time. Especially at a higher dose.

[austinite]

I was thinking about doing the same. I will drop it to 12 weeks. I had done 500 past two cycles and thought i would bump it up to see if there was any diff. Should i just stick with 500? Thanks!

I would. 800 would be quite a step up from 500

12 weeks is plenty. I would run the adex @ .25 EOD and you can adjust if needed. If you go with 12 weeks then your PCT looks just fine.

Here is a very interesting thread you may want to look at: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UHrAem_A_wk

I'm looking forward to seeing your results!

[armyranger516862006]

Should i drop that down to 20mg for 4 weeks!? Adex 0.25 EOD that works! Nice read, thanks that makes me think a little safer! I will take it easy and see what happens especially with the Tren .

Also what are the common sides with Tren and what would i need to help with those sides? Last about that HCG do you believe in a Last two week blast or am i better off with what i have up above?

Thanks and i will come back to this thread to keep updating!!

[austinite]

Should i drop that down to 20mg for 4 weeks!? Adex 0.25 EOD that works! Nice read, thanks that makes me think a little safer! I will take it easy and see what happens especially with the Tren .

Also what are the common sides with Tren and what would i need to help with those sides? Last about that HCG do you believe in a Last two week blast or am i better off with what i have up above?

Thanks and i will come back to this thread to keep updating!!

I dont have experience with halo (YET!), so i cant comment on the dosing, but I know an advanced user (stpete), who is using it, you should read his log. He's gone as low as 20mg and takes it up on workout days. But keep in mind he is advanced so you may want to ask him about dosing for you.

Sides from tren for me:

1. Night Sweats - this sucks big time. I'm not talking about a few drops of sweat, I'm talking sheets soaking wet. No going back to bed. Need lots of towels.

2. Extreme muscle pumps. Not bad, but shin pumps hinder my cardio efforts tremendously.

3. Acne (i use accutane @ 20mg ED), but I am prone and can get it heavy, accutane helps.

4. Increased aggression (please do not mistake this for anger, not the case) - basically heavier weights look less intimidating ARGH! I CAN BENCH PRESS A SCHOOL BUS! - type attitude

5. Random sweats through the day. Could be sitting in a chair with ice cold A/C running, and suddenly I am drenched.

6. Insomnia. Lucky if I get 4 hours sleep.

That's about it.

As for HCG, I always run it on cycle, weeks 1 to 12, @ 250iu twice weekly. So 500iu total per week. Never had issues with that protocol.

[armyranger516862006]

Stpete i know him and i will get with him on his experience and i will read his log.

Night sweats, sounds like it sucks! There is nothing to prevent that but i will have to bare it out! How often do these occur?

Muscle Pumps i got with Dbol they are a pain sometimes, i took Taurine and it seemed to help a little.

I got the acne really bad while PCT began, probalby the change in hormones. I will get Accutane just to be prepared.

Nice the BENCH PRESS THE BUS sounds good. I am a pretty mellow individual. I felt really good with dbol not so much aggression but a feel good feel!

The random sweats thing may be a problem but hopefully i can handle it!

Insomnia Could one take ambien or something like Melatonin to help!? Or is this too many orals?

HCG i will run the entire 12 weeks at that dose!

Thanks for your help man, really appreciate it! Oh one last thing what do you think about the orals being taken at once like example
Liv 52, multi, and maybe Halo depending on what i hear from stpete!? Should they be separated for interference purposes? Thanks!

[austinite]

Stpete i know him and i will get with him on his experience and i will read his log.

Night sweats, sounds like it sucks! There is nothing to prevent that but i will have to bare it out! How often do these occur? For me, it's 3 to 4 times weekly. This is why I only get an average of 4 hours sleep.

Muscle Pumps i got with Dbol they are a pain sometimes, i took Taurine and it seemed to help a little.

I got the acne really bad while PCT began, probalby the change in hormones. I will get Accutane just to be prepared. If you use it, start with a low dose. I gradually increased to find the right dose.

Nice the BENCH PRESS THE BUS sounds good. I am a pretty mellow individual. I felt really good with dbol not so much aggression but a feel good feel!

The random sweats thing may be a problem but hopefully i can handle it! This one doesn't bother me. Just a reminder that Tren is working

Insomnia Could one take ambien or something like Melatonin to help!? Or is this too many orals? Melatonin for me. This is not considered in the "too many orals" category, that refers to oral AAS.

HCG i will run the entire 12 weeks at that dose!

Thanks for your help man, really appreciate it! Oh one last thing what do you think about the orals being taken at once like example
Liv 52, multi, and maybe Halo depending on what i hear from stpete!? Should they be separated for interference purposes? Thanks! Shouldn't matter. Just try and keep the daily timing consistent. My liver prefers NAC.

Answers in red, above

[armyranger516862006]

Thanks so much for your help!! I will make a log when i begin and come back to this thread in the future!

[OnTheSauce]

halo is pretty awful on your liver. its very toxic. i run anadrol and dbol for 4 weeks, but limit halo to two weeks. im a bigger fan of high doses, for shorter periods. versus lower dose over longer time. unlike other orals, you can feel halo on the first dose. especially if you take all 40mg at once.