1st Cycle... Getting Huge!

[Huge Presser]

lilbull! Glad to see you back on these boards bro... how's powerlifting treatin ya? You been training westside I believe but I might be wrong, haven't been in the powerlifting forum for a few days now.
Well good luck man... if you think that 130 lb difference is gonna last you're shittin, after you start hitting the strength training hard and get on your cycle you're gonna be a powerhouse.
Good luck bro. Hey but I thought you said you were benching 215? If you are then it's not even a 100 pound difference. Don't discredit yourself bro you'll catch me . Once again good luck.

HP

[lilbull]

I like the powerliftin routine so far, The Maximum effort days are a lot of fun, but the Dynamic effort days are not as much fun, but they are necessary. I think the powerliftin thing is gonna be good for me, I might get somewhere around my goals ( I wanna bench 250 by the end of my powerlifiting training routine.) Far fetched I know but I'm gonna push for it. Thanks man. Good luck to you, too.
Bull

[Huge Presser]

True, true. Speed days suck. In my opinion speed is overrated, but you can't just keep doing max effort day after day otherwise your muscles can't repair and shut down.
Good luck bro... can't wait to hear about where you are 9 weeks from now! I think you'll really benefit from trying something new.

HP

[BigGreen]

Are you currently working some traditional powerlifting methodologies and philosophies into your training? Looking at your cycle, I get the impression you're trying to throw on some weight before paring off that bodyfat towards the end (much like myself). If so, I imagine PL'ing movements and training strategies might be of some use. I elected to stray away from that "realm" during the cycle as I'm looking purely for growth, and while PL'ing training blows up my quads, it tends to cause me to lose size in the chest, but gain it in the triceps. As chest is one of my worst parts, I didn't want to make that sacrifice this go around.

[TheJuicer]

Big Green I feel for you in the chest department...I growing like mad in everywhere but chest...I'm at such a stand still that i'm not sure really what to do..My last Sust shot was about 2 months ago and I haven't gain a pound in my chest workout...by squats has increase about 20 lbs. and DL about 30 lbs. but my bench is stuck! I have change my workout in chest 2 times..I dont know...well my next cycle is in about a month and a half so hopefully I can break my pleatue and gain some more..I gain about 30-40 on the last cycle in bench...Well anyway..I have loved reading your diary and It has really keeped me pumping hard..THANK...keep it up!

[Huge Presser]

Well BG, I have tried almost all of the popular chest routines, sadly none of which had much of an effect on me and left me at a standstill, at least concerning strength, after high school. So I have adapted a routine I find works for me. It is simply working all parts of the body that related to the lift to the fullest every 4 days. This means lower pecs, upper pecs, lower and upper triceps, the rotator cuff, deltoids and traps for bench. So no traditional powerlifting methods have been used.
Although I know what you are talking about powerlifting training specifically, it has caused me to lose size in the chest. Although for me that's not much of a problem, seeing that I have a chest nearly as big around as I am tall . Well my friends, I will be back on tomorrow for updates. Thanks to all for reading and for the responses.

Peace,

HP

[Huge Presser]

Awesome workout today.
Bench pressed 236 for eleven reps and didn't even feel tired. Went on to break personal bests in the decline bench, and then hit the shoulders hard. Bodyweight into the 160's again, which was also a bit of good news.
This was an important day today because I really wanted to prove to myself that I'm now in a "New level," of strength and power. I remember I used to consider it a good day when I would go past 235 and hit maybe a couple reps. Those were back in my days of a 270 bench max. After hitting 236 for eleven in the blink of an eye I felt like a whole new person, at that New Level I wanted to believe I was in before today.

Saw a guy who hasn't seen me, well, since May 1st, the exact day I started my cycle. He said I looked "about twice as thick as I did two months ago." I thanked him. This guy is about as vascular as they come. He had fucking veins on the sides of his hands. Pretty amazing shit.

Well good luck to everybody. I'm hitting legs tomorrow. Stay tuned!

HP

[Huge Presser]

Squats today.
Fina begins in just a few days.

On squats here's how it went:
135*15
225*12
275*8
315*6
335*4
And by then I was really fuckin tired.
I then did seated leg press for a set of 30 reps. My legs were about to explode.
Did 6 sets of 15 for my calfs.
Great pumps... felt real good today!

I have made the choice to drop the winny and go with simply tren by itself. I have considered issues such as internal health (liver, kidneys, etc.) in making this choice, and I also focused in a little more on what I wanted and what my specific goals were when I set them up a few weeks ago. My current goal is a 165 bodyweight with a 335 pound bench, with about 5 pounds less fat than I have now. At this bodyweight I feel it would be unecessary for me to lose even more weight even if it is fat, seeing that whenever I'm below 160 I feel pathetic, even if I look more cut. I need to build up more mass, I believe that it improves my confidence. I would like to burn off a little fat in the process of gaining this mass, however, I certainly do not want to lose weight in the next 8 weeks, which would be a certain possibility with fina and winny. So I will more then likely still be trying to bulk up on the fina, although if I lose fat that will be welcome as well . I also feel that taking another 17aa steroid , especially for 8 weeks might possibly kill the liver, so I have decided against it. I will also be dropping the clen . Of course, this would be a different situation if I had a higher level of bodyfat, but I feel comfortable still trying to gain mass and gradually trying to lose fat at 10%.
I will use winny for another time.

For some reason I can't update my signature anymore, but here's how the "updated" cycle looks.
Dbol 30mg ED (1-4)
Deca 400mg EW (1-8)
Sust 500mg EW (1-8)
Tren 80mg ED (9-16... I am starting on day 60)
Clomid 300/100/50 post cycle.

Wish me luck bros!!!
Any opinions, flames are welcome.

HP

[Huge Presser]

Great bicep/back workout today.
I would like to say a couple things before I head off to work:
1. I really like the new features on the updated board!
2. My most muscular pose has really progressed. I am posing in such a way where my abs look great and I take advantage of having a huge chest and big lats, while my weaknesses, (shoulders, biceps) look even more like my strongpoints. I don't want to be cocky, but I feel, and look, incredible. It is amazing.

I'm going to let ya'll catch up to me post wise and take a couple days off from this thread (unless something newsworthy occurs.)

HP

[lilbull]

hahahahaha

[Huge Presser]

Sorry ptbyJason!
The new site is cool, my computers just a piece of shit.

HP

[Huge Presser]

yay !!!
I finally fuckin fixed it! Now I can edit everthing. Piece of shit computer ...

Alright bros bubye for a couple days!!! Flames, comments, suggestions, hate mail, anything is welcome!!!

And I want to see what ya'll think about me dropping the winny? Good idea/bad idea? Let's get some opinions!

HP

[quez82]

yay !!!
I finally fuckin fixed it! Now I can edit everthing. Piece of shit computer ...

Alright bros bubye for a couple days!!! Flames, comments, suggestions, hate mail, anything is welcome!!!

And I want to see what ya'll think about me dropping the winny? Good idea/bad idea? Let's get some opinions!

HP

Why are you taking the tren after the cycle is over? i just started this same cycle 1 week ago going on 2...and i'm curious if i should buy the kit to use it at the end of mine... fill me in on the reason why you chose tren at the end? . And what d-bols did you use on your cycle?... Quez

[Huge Presser]

Well, my first shot of trenbolone acetate went well today. I had my friend here to help out with the blood (although there was none )... Quez, I am using the tren at the end of the cycle to harden up and possibly throw on some more mass. It seemed like a good idea, considering my goals are to gain weight, and for now, I'm not so concerned about bodyfat. This is why I took out the winny and clen . I tell why I am doing this a few posts above in greater detail.
Peace bros,

HP

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[Huge Presser]

Another shot of Tren is coming up.
Today I did bench... wow what an intense workout. It was amazing...
I did this:
Flat bench: 45*5, 95*5, 135*5, 196*3, 236*1
and then all out set 246*10 holy shit!!!
then a few more sets, for some reason I got really tired after I hit 246 for 10 reps...
then decline: 215*8, 265*8, both sets were easy as hell.
Incline bench: (I am tired as hell, moving fast through the workout) 155*8, 185*7
pectoral flies, shoulder press (seated).
Then front and side shoulder raises, and tricep pushdowns.
Holy shit!!! I had the whole gym looking at me! Some woman came up to me and said I was looking incredible, she guessed I was 25 years old... had three people tell me I was looking bigger. Had a few high schoolers who couldn't stop looking at me the whole time I was there, they were watching my every move!!! It was great.
I weighed in at 161.2, the second most I've weighed yet. And I'm looking incredible, sorry about the cockiness ... I am going to take pics soon so you guys can see what I'm talking about!
I will update after my injection.

Peace,
HP

[Huge Presser]

Another shot of tren today. Used a 25 gauge 3/4 inch, and shot into the BICEP.
It didn't hurt a bit. Yes there was a little blood but it turned out alright.
Tomorrow I will be shooting into the leg after my squat workout.
Then shoulder on Wednesday after biceps and work.

Peace,
HP

[Red5]

Thats great results so far Huge, I would say without a doubt that you will get your goal of a 335lb bench.You could do it now if your putting 246lb up 10 times.
Oh, and hurry up with those pics.

[BigGreen]

Another shot of tren today. Used a 25 gauge 3/4 inch, and shot into the BICEP.
It didn't hurt a bit. Yes there was a little blood but it turned out alright.
HP

How long has it been after said bicep shot? My calf was fine for the first 24-36 hours after the shot or so, but then went DEAD, resulting in one missing portion of a tooth! I'm seriously considering the use of tren at the end, but as I plan out my injection sites, I'm having trouble picturing a place that won't hurt bad. I guess I'll start glutes (i'll have to order some 1.5"), which, with quads as well, gets me up to four sites out of the requisite seven. I'll consider pecs and delts (don't want to hit calves again) and, if you manage to go a day or two without any crazy bicep pain, I'll try that.

[Huge Presser]

How long has it been after said bicep shot? My calf was fine for the first 24-36 hours after the shot or so, but then went DEAD, resulting in one missing portion of a tooth! I'm seriously considering the use of tren at the end, but as I plan out my injection sites, I'm having trouble picturing a place that won't hurt bad. I guess I'll start glutes (i'll have to order some 1.5"), which, with quads as well, gets me up to four sites out of the requisite seven. I'll consider pecs and delts (don't want to hit calves again) and, if you manage to go a day or two without any crazy bicep pain, I'll try that.

Hey Big Green, it's been 28 hours now, and the bicep feels great. I highly doubt it will start hurting or aching in the next few hours, it's safe to say everything went well. I suggest you work in the bicep to your rotation, as long as you have 3/4 inch pins, which won't penetrate so deep as to the point of pain, as the bicep is far less thick then the shoulder, leg or glute.
Here is my very own rotation:
L Quad, L shoulder, L glute, L bicep, R quad, R shoulder, R Glute, R bicep.
I just shot into my right quad, so tomorrow is shoulder.


Hey and Red... the pics will be up in a week... no one better nag me, seeing that Big T didn't start getting nagged until the 6th page .

One more update, I did squats and bis and back today (had to combine the two days into one due to a intense work schedule Wednes-Sunday.
squats: did the same routine as last week, although I must admit it felt much easier, and I was considering going for 6 on the last set, which, I would have more then likely achieved:
135*15, 225*12, 275*8, 315*6, 335*4 all sets were very easy
Then bis and lats hardcore.
Feeling great, weight up to 161.8, an all time record for me!

More updates on tren and the workout to come...

HP

[sp9]

Keep the posts coming, all these posts about injections are getting me feeling better about what will be my first soon.

[Huge Presser]

Hey scott... wuts up bro.
I'm curious on what you decided on for your first cycle?

Alright bros what the fuck will happen??? I ordered 20 amps of Scherring Test enanthate 250, 20ml of Eq at 200mg/ml, 200 naps, 60 nolvas and clomid as well, for my next cycle, which I'm starting sometime this December I presume. I just went to the post office to pick up the mail, and there's the package, flat as a board. I opened it, read the little fucking letter inside: "Bla bla bla, Customs has seized your shit, it's illegal in the U.S., you're fucked, etc."... and here's the part I loved the most: "Our fines, penalties and forfeitures branch will be with you in the near future." So of course, I left the post office a nervice wreck... and I still am! I about shit my pants when I got home thinking about this!!!

What usually happens? Does anyone have experience with this? I assume no jail time, hopefully, more then likely a huge fine and some penalties? What do you guys think? Who has experience with this kind of shit?

HP

[johnsomebody]

Sorry to hear you lost your order bro.

You shouldn't worry at all about it though -the "penalty" is they keep it and you don't get it. It's called forfeiture. They don't have the time, money or inclination to take you to court or anything like that.

That's what happened to me anyway -do a search for "Customs" and you'll find more info. It happens all the time with overseas orders, unfortunately.

[lilbull]

THAT SUCKS!!! I hate to hear you got your shit taken, I hope everything works out alright.

[sp9]

1-13 Test Cyp 500
1-12 EQ 400
1-4 30mg Dbol

.25 ldex per day
10 mg Nolva per day
Normal 300,100,50 clomid at end

[Huge Presser]

Hey thanks bros. I'm feelin better now... thank god they're not gonna fine me, now's not the fucking time. I swear I can already feel myself getting angrier and angrier because of this fina. But I'm LOVIN IT!!!
I will post in two days after I do bench to see if my strength increased. I took pics yesterday so I should have them on the 5th...

HP

[thetank]

I took pics yesterday so I should have them on the 5th...

HP

its the 6th bieatch!
j/k. looking forward 2 the updated pics/bench PR
so, uh, bump i geuss
peace
tank

[Huge Presser]

Damnet your right!!!
I better get my ass to the store and pick them up!

Hey bros I'm having some trouble with an old girlfriend but I'll be back posting more consistently today and this week. Tomorrow is bench, and for injections, today is L shoulder.

Peace!
HP

[Huge Presser]

I am now questioning whether the fina I am using is fake, underdosed, or something completely different. It is made by International Pharmeceuticals, and yes I know they have a bad rep. I assumed that they were dosing the "80mg/ml Tren " at more like 65mg/ml, but now I have reason to believe it is even less. Although yes I am angrier, slightly heavier, and I finally have visible shoulder muscle again lol, I am not seeing shit for strength gains. Anyone have an experience like this with eyepee Tren? I'm thinking I might drop it, but a kit and finish up with that, unless I start seeing some serious strength gains this week.

Anyhow here's my workout that I did today:
Flat bench: 45*5, 95*5, 135*5, 196*3, 236*1, 256*1. Done warming up: 261*7, 236*7 paused on chest, already kinda tired. Band work: 210/235*8, 215/250*6, 225/270*4 paused. This means that the bands added about 25-45 lbs on the top of the lift. Was feeling good. Then did some incline/decline work. Dumbell presses, triceps.
More details on the use of the bands to come. Feel free to ask questions about them, because they are a confusing subject. You can learn a lot about band use in the PL forum.

Peace,
HP

[BigGreen]

I am now questioning whether the fina I am using is fake, underdosed, or something completely different. It is made by International Pharmeceuticals, and yes I know they have a bad rep. I assumed that they were dosing the "80mg/ml Tren" at more like 65mg/ml, but now I have reason to believe it is even less. HP

Is there a reason you didn't go the route of simply making your own tren ? That way you're 100% certain it's real, and likewise certain of the conditions under which it was created. On top of all that, while I'm not familiar with this supplier's tren price, I'd be willing to bet that it would've been substantially cheaper to brew your own. The only thing I would pay for through a source is tren enanthate , since I wouldn't have the damndest clue as to go about making that with my "took the bare minimum of science courses i needed to graduate" mentality.

[sigrabbit]

I used the I.P. tren , but not properly, and I still had side effects such as pumps and night sweats so I have to assume it was real. I have to agree with BG here, why didn't you make your own? It is much cheaper and you know the dosage.

[Huge Presser]

I suppose I just didn't consider it until now. Damnet I feel like a moron. I will certainly be making my own in the future. However, I am now certain it is real, just underdosed, as the side effects are really hitting me hard (night sweats, anger, acne, pumps, etc.)

Anger control problems (again):
Last night I got home late from work as usual, to find my old girlfriend sitting on my couch, all pissed off. Ashe found oout about my AS usage last week and felt it was necessary to talk again. At first things went well, then she started telling me about how I was gonna die and get hepatitis C So I started yelling, but she wouldmt stop crying and making fucking retarded accusations aimed at the bad side of AS, I couldn't stand her being so neive, I got up and bunched my wall as hard as I could 4-5 times. I couldn't feel my hand afterwards, there was a few bigass wholes in the wall... then I went over to a picture of me and my girl from back when we were 18, the summer after I got out of HS, and smashed that frame to pieces. I didn't notice it amongst her yelling, but she began screaming about "omg, look at your hand!"I had a huge fucking gash on my pinky, it was bleeding really bad, and a few other cuts all over. I went to the emergency room, got shit fixed up, only 16 stitches, but now I can only type with 8 fingers, not to mention I'm wearing a brace around my pinky and that's going to make it hard as fuck to bench, or squat for that matter.

So I guess my anger is "out of control" and I feel like a total dumbass... I'm going to see both my therapyst and a shrink today for a meeting to see what can be done. Wish me luck .

eace,
HP

[lilbull]

you're crazy man. It sucks that she found out. It doesn't help the anger when she starts nagging and crying either.

Oh well, good luck man. laters

[sigrabbit]

Sorry to hear about your incident bro. Always remember, it is the artificial hormones you are pumping into yourself that are making you "testy" so take a deep breath and get control.

[TheJuicer]

I would just get a new girl...mine doesnt care....she said that as long as I doing it safe and I dont turn into a dick...I can juice till the cows come home...so I have been the sweetest guy these couple of weeks!!! hehe!!

[Huge Presser]

Alright, the meeting went well and I;m getting straightened out. Feeling great as of now. I was able to make it to my bro's little basement gym before I turned in for the night. I did biceps/back and holy shit the fina has kicked in! I repped out my 10RM that I did at his house two weeks ago, today 12 reps, and that's with my two vital fingers not even grasping the bar. Once again I only have 8 fingers to lift with for another 3 weeks.
Got huge pumps. Thought my biceps were gonna pop after I did some holds in the middle of curl motion after a few sets. I have noticed the peaks are getting better.
Well, peace bros,
I'm gonna sleep... btw Juicer she's not my gf anymore, she's just some bitch who comes to my house to yell at me every now and then ...

HP

[Huge Presser]

Alright, I'm back and feeling strong. My fucking fingers are all wrapped up and making it hard to lift, or type for that matter, but I'm dealing .
I injected 1ml of Tren into da ass yesterday, painless as usual, I'm getting better at injections.
Well I did bench today, went like this:
warm up... 4 board press:
225*3, 245*3, 275*3, 295*3, 315*3.
bodyweight @ 160.
Noticing differences in the usual little excercises, increases in just about everything. Tren injection into the bi is up for today... I love bi shots... I am finally noticing them getting bigger.
I'd also like everyone to know lilbull is going to try and catch up to me in strength... and seeing that he's actually making some good fucking progress I'm going to be stepping it up a notch! Good luck to all, especially myself!

Peace bros,
HP

[Huge Presser]

Wassup everyone? I'm back stronger then ever, finally I have leg strength again ...
Well I warmed up on squat, and then threw on my old max, 345 lbs, and hit 8 reps!!! Felt real solid and went deep on my last rep... all was going well. I then did some box squats, afterwards with some glute/ham work, and lower back... felt great!!! Weight was up two pounds from yesterday, at 162 even.
I am maxing out in the bench on Monday... hoping to see 320-325. And boy I'm glad too have squat strength again!!!
I'm going to skip my quad injection today, and instead hit the shoulder... the last time I had an intense leg workout, like today, I squatted 355*6 and then injected into my quad following the workout. After that my strength in the legs was never the same... so yes, I am highly superstitious, and I don't want to risk losing that strength even though it probly has nothing to do with where I inject ... but fuck it...

Wish me luck for Monday, 320-325 is the goal!!!

-HP

[sp9]

Huge Presser,

I just scrolled through this thread really quickly. Wondering what your diet looks like? Total Calories/Protien/Carbs/Fat?

Sorry if you arleady posted that info. Point me in the right direction. Thanks!

[sigrabbit]

Good luck on the bench max bro! How you liking the fina? It is kicking in pretty good for me and even though I am dieting the strength seems to be creeping back up. I am going to try an hit a personal best for reps at 225 on Monday. Before I started cutting, and with the help of winny, I got it for 12. I would be happy if I can hit that again.

How is the hand healing bro?

[Huge Presser]

Hey Scott... I havent actually calculated the total fat/protein cals yet... my guess is 300protein, 400carbs, 4500 total cals... my actual diet is on the first page, and is similar to major's and Big T's, as they have had great success with their diets.

Sigrabbit, hows it going with the girl bro? LOL sounds like shes set on you... since ur on prop you're fucked !!! Well I'm lovin the fina, as my weight is still "high" by my standards, but there has been some fat loss, I'm looking a lot better, + I'm stronger. The hand is healing slow, but making progress, stitches are coming off the 17th.

Good luck with 225!!!

-HP