1st cycle results + 2nd advice

[BigNatty33]

Hey guys new to this forum, but have always read and re-read the profiles for research but now I have encountered an obstacle.

Anyways, this will be my 2nd cycle and I need help deciding on what other compound to use

My 1st cycle was: stats (5'11: 230 lbs: 23)

1-2 week 300 mg t-prop (to kind of gauge how it would affect me)
3-4 week 300 mg t-prop + 300 mg nandrolone -prop
5-6 week 300 mg t-prop + 300 mg nandrolone-prop + 400 mg t-cyp + 300 mg deca
7-11 week 400 mg t-cyp + 300 mg deca
12-14 week 400 mg t-cyp
15-16 20mg nolva ed

I went from 5'11 to 6'1 and 230 to 215 lifting 4-6x a week lifting and wrestling 3-4x a week

deadlift 460 - 500
squat 335 - 390
front-squat 245-300
DB bench 100x3 - 100x10 or 110x3
full-clean 185-225
snatch 155-175

I did this cycle using propionate esters at first in case I had bad reactions so that I could quickly stop and then switched to longer esters because they had 2-3 times the mg/vial + less pinning.

It really helped me get leaner + stronger on low doses for a 1st cycle. Acne increased slightly around week 7 and on and had a soft boner twice on a 8.89584/10 babe that apparently wont talk to me anymore...

My only real concern is now that I've been off for over a month my hair is seemingly loose around the temples and pulls out easily. But during my cycle it wasn't like this, only now that I'm off. (Dad went bald around 23 but I still have like 90% of my hair vs his 20%)


:::2nd Cycle:::

Dbol 20-30 mg ed /4 weeks
Cyp 300-500 mg /week
Deca 250 mg/ week (mostly because I was noticing my knees felt good on it) (Or should I just up the deca and get gains from it)

And maybe one other compound, maybe to get the majority of gains on and preferably not derivatives of DHT so I don't go bald any faster.

I ask here because, when dealing with 3-4 compounds simultaneously is kind of getting difficult to find research and I was wondering if anyone could suggest another compound. (Anavar is too expensive for me)

Thanks for reading my wall of text.

Edit: Also, anything special about the test blends?? I'm considering trying a T-400 cyp100/enth100/prop200 (or something) mixture, it's much cheaper as it will have 4000 mgs/vial vs 2500 for cyp(100$) and 1000 for prop (70$)

[BigNatty33]

Okay so it's about a month and a half since I've finished my cycle


DL - 500
DB Bench 100x9


Squatting+Clean+Snatch (hurt my knee wrestling so can't tell for a couple more weeks)


I would say I've kept 95% of my strength gains

[redz]

You're saying you got taller on cycle?

[Back In Black]

A 2 week pct? Which you started only days after your last shot of test c?

It's a bit of a train wreck mate. I would strongly suggest you go and get some bloodwork before you even consider doing a test only cycle.

What's your bodyfat %?

[Back In Black]

You're saying you got taller on cycle?

You mean this doesn't happen to you

[spiralkut]

never listed his age so could be 17 and still growing

[BigNatty33]

A 2 week pct? Which you started only days after your last shot of test c?
What's your bodyfat %?

16-18%

I'm 23

and I started taking the Nolvadex about 8-9 days after my last inject

[Back In Black]

16-18%

I'm 23

and I started taking the Nolvadex about 8-9 days after my last inject

Ok, aside from the fact that you are a little young to be cycling can you answer the following?

How did you grow 2 inches in height on cycle?

What was your bodyfat at the start of your cycle? I'm guessing incredibly high if you lost weight on cycle and finished about 18%.

Why didn't you run test only?

Did you run HCG or an AI or something for prolactin control on cycle?

Now, you should have waited 18 days after your last shot before you started PCT and ran nolva and clomid for 4 weeks.

Your first cycle was a bit of a car crash, I would strongly recommend you get some bloodwork done before you even consider thinking about a test only second cycle.

[629]

Gonna take some lessons from this thread before starting my own cycle...

[spiralkut]

Okay so it's about a month and a half since I've finished my cycle


DL - 500
DB Bench 100x9


Squatting+Clean+Snatch (hurt my knee wrestling so can't tell for a couple more weeks)


I would say I've kept 95% of my strength gains

that deadlift must be broken back mountain form

[Java Man]

Still waiting for the answer on how you gained 2 inches of HEIGHT. I want that secret because I've always wanted to be 6' 2" tall but I got jacked by the height gods and I'm stuck at 6 feet. please share!

[BigNatty33]

that deadlift must be broken back mountain form

It's actually with pretty good form, I can do 405 for 8 reps on DL, 505x1 raw, straight back slightly rounded shoulders, with or without belt belt

And now that my knee is feeling better I was able to squat 385x1 without too much trouble, well below parallel. 315x6 ATG

Most of the weight loss was probably from doing 2 hours of cardio 3-4x a week

I didn't take an AI (I was watching out for sides though) and HCG is so damn expensive (but I will definitely get it next time)

Thanks for the comments Back in Black, I will do better next time, I have been off-cycle for quite a while now and have lost barely ANY strength, my barbell bench even went up to 295x1 but I think that is because my CNS is able to recruit more muscles and not due to more muscle mass existing.

was just kidding on the height bros


edit: How do I go about safely getting bloodwork done, I mean without like implicating myself or sending off redflags to insurance companies and stuff if you guys know what I mean.