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    Anavar only / Awesome experience

    Hey guys,

    So here is a log I did a little while ago.

    Summary - This was my first cycle, 20 years old... I decided to do an Anavar only because it's a light cycle and I heard a lot of good things about it. On that note I heard a lot of bad things to but this was just in forums. Friends and family both have tried this and they all had a similar POSITIVE outcome. For all you guys that are going to hate because I did the var only cycle and I'm 20 thanks for your concern but I have no time for your shitty comments, I know what I'm doing and I have the right people around me to help. I know I'm going to get a few rubbish comments and good ones!

    First 2 nights I had a few problems, I think this was due to anxiety as I wasn't sure what to expect. I could not sleep, and when I did sleep I woke up in puddles and I mean puddles of sweat. After the first 2 nights I was fine, obviously had no positive side effects yet. After about 5 days I started to notice hardness. My chest, arms legs everything's was hard as hell which was awesome i will 100% be using this pre contest simply for this reason. Everything started to come together from here.

    After week 1 i was getting more of a pump and again hardness. Week 2, my strength went up like crazy.... At around week 3 I started to notice lean mass gains, and obviously all other positive effects I just spoke about. And all these effects where consistent through to the end of the cycle.

    Diet throughout the cycle was the same every day, macros where 200 prot, 398 carbs and 88 fat. If I had altered diet to my gains i could have gained more but I was happy with the fat loss.

    My strength went up a lot, i dropped about 1.5% Bf which put me down to 9.7%, gained 5.5 kg (12 pounds) and I had no negatives what so ever, all my blood work is exactly the same as it was before hand. Throughout the cycle I think I was even more horny than I've ever been apart from the last 3 days I felt a little lethargic.

    I am now 176cm, 83kg and 9.7%bf

    Over all it was an awesome cycle. This was just an experiment I was not expecting to have the outcome I did. Everyone is saying you shouldn't do what I did, yes you do slightly suppress towards the end, but after pct you bounce back up to normal. That's the only negative everything else was AWESOME.

    Just a heads up for anyone thinking about doing this, the pumps you get in your traps are painful as ****! But awesome at the same time.

    Next cycle test e only starting in Feb excited as HELL!

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    I thought about running Anavar for 50mg a day and clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with liv5, milk thistle during cycle and then Nolva after to be safe.

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    Var will shut down your natural test and at your age that's one of the worse things you can do with a developing hormonal system, you could end up with low test which will result in the opposite your looking for

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    The Young and Steroids


    There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
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    I believe that Anavar will suppress your testosterone but not shut it down permanently if you only run one 8 week cycle, any more then that and you can face shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneguy24 View Post
    I believe that Anavar will suppress your testosterone but not shut it down permanently if you only run one 8 week cycle, any more then that and you can face shut down.
    It will shut down your natural test fully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    It will shut down your natural test fully.
    I did suppress towards the end, just a tiny bit. My blood work is perfect after pct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneguy24 View Post
    I thought about running Anavar for 50mg a day and clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with liv5, milk thistle during cycle and then Nolva after to be safe.
    Bad idea man, If your going to do it I would recommend a full cycle. Your just playing with your hormones doing 2 weeks on and 2 off. Scrap the Clen for now. Run var only or test only.. With AI and pct. HCG if you use test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    The Young and Steroids


    There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
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    love this write-up, I use it all the time to educate newbies!

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    No I didn't take before and afters unfortunately

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    Despite your "full" recovery running var alone is not prudent. Advising people to do such is worse. I'm glad you came out ok but it doesn't mean everyone will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Despite your "full" recovery running var alone is not prudent. Advising people to do such is worse. I'm glad you came out ok but it doesn't mean everyone will.
    he's okay for now.... we'll see how he does in 5 years from now!

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    Muscleduke's, what did you take as PCT after var cycle?

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    oh my. I am glad things went well, but you are a risky one. It's your body, do as you want, we all react differently to different things I suppose. I had a few friends who wanted to run certain compounds alone and wouldn't listen and things didn't work out so well for them.

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