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    Bignaths road to ukbff

    I guys and girls i see some people do this out of interest or to see their results and maybe gain support so after following mr fq320 and seeing him do him self proud at nabba north east on mon im gonna do a log as im hoping to compete in august ukbff north in leeds.
    So for those that dont know i only started the bb training 8 months ago and started out like this au natural

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    So first course after christmas was test e and deca min and thurs 1ml of each i wasnt happy with how i looked but weight stacked on Bignaths road to ukbff-image-4231302883.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Forum Bignaths road to ukbff-image-624748294.jpg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-3834731239.jpg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-2689935497.jpg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-2938849965.jpg

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    So then i came off for 8/9 weeks still trained hard as i had a holiday and came back at 118kg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-64763950.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Forum Bignaths road to ukbff-image-3467371003.jpg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-2200780970.jpg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-2552315181.jpg Bignaths road to ukbff-image-3348102246.jpg

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    So i started cutting 2-3 weeks ago test cyp mast and winstrol injections with anavar oral on top last night pics Bignaths road to ukbff-image-4094097326.jpg Weighed in at 114kg Sent from my iPhone using Forum

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    Sorry i aint the best at pics but other than change my compounds training wise im doing 5-6 sets of 14-20 reps at slow pace ie 5up 5 down with 30-40 secs rest added 30 mins x trainer at end of weights and also back playing rugby league
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    Subscribed to this man ! I'm with you all the way buddy. Don't wanna sound like a broken record already but have you got your diet / macros / numbers sorted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    Subscribed to this man ! I'm with you all the way buddy. Don't wanna sound like a broken record already but have you got your diet / macros / numbers sorted?
    Mate il take all the help i can get seen as though u have been up on stage before me think im going in the right direction but il let u know if i get stuck working on 40g carbs per meal so far so good and to anyone else any help or constructive criticism is welcomed

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    How tall are you?

    What is your cycle plan over the next 3-4 months?

    Are you cutting all the way up to the show or bulking at some point?
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    Ok mate, tbh, I started my threads with the intention of more help and instruction, but it just didn't turn out like that and I ended up just figuring it out myself, maybe that's where I went wrong.

    Just lay it all out bare, let ppl throw there ideas at you, then decide for yourself.

    40g of carbs per meal ? Well depends how many meals lol. I liked my carbs at breakfast after fasted cardio and weights. And for evening meal, again after weights and cardio. I carb cycled. 100-150 low days 250-300 high days. I used fitnesspal to track foods and cals.

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    Nath, you might be interested in entering this one straight after too mate, I'm pretty certain I'm going in for this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    How tall are you? What is your cycle plan over the next 3-4 months? Are you cutting all the way up to the show or bulking at some point?
    Hi mate so im 6ft 2
    Going to stick with test winny and mast for another 6 weeks so 8 in total to get ripped enough to see what i need to work on then itll be a clean bulk followed straight with a cut all being well

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    Ok mate, tbh, I started my threads with the intention of more help and instruction, but it just didn't turn out like that and I ended up just figuring it out myself, maybe that's where I went wrong. Just lay it all out bare, let ppl throw there ideas at you, then decide for yourself. 40g of carbs per meal ? Well depends how many meals lol. I liked my carbs at breakfast after fasted cardio and weights. And for evening meal, again after weights and cardio. I carb cycled. 100-150 low days 250-300 high days. I used fitnesspal to track foods and cals.
    Yeah fair one im kinda in the same vain as i got good advice already but too much is never enough in this game im averaging 7 meals a day at the mo my last meal is basically meat n brocolli and asparagus all pretty basic il probably carb load on a fri with me playing rugby on the saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    Nath, you might be interested in entering this one straight after too mate, I'm pretty certain I'm going in for this
    If i bring good enough form it would be rude not too i guess cheers matey

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    How's it going man ? Are u ramping those carbs down ? Carb cycling ? How you looking and feeling ?

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    Been outta actionmy man :-( had tonsilitis followed by d an v only just back on my feet so il be back at it tomoz cheers for asking bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignath4607
    Been outta actionmy man :-( had tonsilitis followed by d an v only just back on my feet so il be back at it tomoz cheers for asking bro Sent from my iPhone using Forum
    what is d an v ?
    Are u still entering ? Anything is possible in eight weeks or whatever is left mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    what is d an v ? Are u still entering ? Anything is possible in eight weeks or whatever is left mate
    Diarrheaand vomiting bloody wiped me out im not letting it put me off entering pal as the weight ive dropped i should find back in a week or so and im sure im not theonly person to have a setback like this pre contest

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignath4607
    Diarrheaand vomiting bloody wiped me out im not letting it put me off entering pal as the weight ive dropped i should find back in a week or so and im sure im not theonly person to have a setback like this pre contest Sent from my iPhone using Forum
    Ducking hwll mate, that's bad shit, respect for carrying on bro. The stress of the contest made me Ill the two years previous, I dropped out. Well if I can help out in any way mate just give is a shout. I say a refeed after illness to get strength back and then unfortunately it's back to cutting again.

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    Sorry just saw this nath I'm subscribed! Keep pushing - like the attitude brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    Ducking hwll mate, that's bad shit, respect for carrying on bro. The stress of the contest made me Ill the two years previous, I dropped out. Well if I can help out in any way mate just give is a shout. I say a refeed after illness to get strength back and then unfortunately it's back to cutting again.

    Cheers bro i appreciate it yeah am taking 3 days to stuff my face then its straight back to rigid diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    Sorry just saw this nath I'm subscribed! Keep pushing - like the attitude brother!
    Cheers nach appreciate it and is there any other attitude to have lol its what i like about the sport u cant really blame anyone else like a team game its all about how far you can push yourself :-)

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    Only the one pic as i been ill as hell

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    Looking forward to more progress now im back in the grind

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignath4607
    Only the one pic as i been ill as hell <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=157744"/> Looking forward to more progress now im back in the grind Sent from my iPhone using Forum
    It's unlucky falling ill pal, I think you know what you gotta do now, get the diet dialled right in, hammer cardio

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignath4607 View Post
    Cheers nach appreciate it and is there any other attitude to have lol its what i like about the sport u cant really blame anyone else like a team game its all about how far you can push yourself :-)

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    Very true! An aspect I too love about this game

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    Good luck I will be following also!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joco71
    Good luck I will be following also!!
    Thanks pal much appreciated

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    How you feeling nath??

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    How you feeling nath??
    Still a little dehydrated from the d&v but managed a full chest n bicep routine with 35 mins cross trainer so nearly 100% again apetite is back and havent checked yet but i feel like i put a few lbs back on thanks for asking nach hope your still smashing it pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    Very true! An aspect I too love about this game
    Best game ever!

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    How's your week been Bro !? All macros hit, training top drawer? Back to full strength?

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    Hey up mate strength aint as good but trimming down real well started test tren winny injections today and clen il post somepics up tomorrow providing i aint battered from rugby today lol looking for big progress now house moves done so no distractions now fingers crossed

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    Ay up Bro, nice to hear from ya, I know it's been hectic for u recently, and a bit of bad luck thrown in, glad your still in, you have time to pull it outta the bag, I was a wreck 8 weeks after getting trashed in Benidorm, 4 solid weeks of macros and training sorted that out, so it proves anything is possible. Good luck man, I suppose I better come along and shout ya name and return the favour ;-). Pics are up from Nabba, made me more determined than ever to succeed in the next one. Diet is hardcore, not starving, but zero sugar.

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    What winny u on ? Oral / injectable ?

    How many carbs you on a day now mate ? I've lowered my protein to 1.2g/lb

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    What winny u on ? Oral / injectable ? How many carbs you on a day now mate ? I've lowered my protein to 1.2g/lb
    Its depot mate injectable water its a forst for me ass cheek hurts like hell carbs wise i was doing 6 meals with 40g of carbs first alteration is ive dropped the carbs off the last two meals and upped the veggies see if that works protein is staying at 2g per lb for me for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignath4607
    Its depot mate injectable water its a forst for me ass cheek hurts like hell carbs wise i was doing 6 meals with 40g of carbs first alteration is ive dropped the carbs off the last two meals and upped the veggies see if that works protein is staying at 2g per lb for me for now Sent from my iPhone using Forum
    Hell! That's a lot of protein ! For this next one, I'm taking the less is more approach, relying on a perfect diet, no fat burners, less drugs, smarter not harder ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    Hell! That's a lot of protein ! For this next one, I'm taking the less is more approach, relying on a perfect diet, no fat burners, less drugs, smarter not harder ;-)
    It is ut im paranoid about losing size with the clen be interesting to see how both our approaches differ u have one up on me as u know how ur body responds and sounds like u gotta good gameplan too when we having this workout anyhow ive switched gyms to one close to me so i can do more

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    I think it's one of them mate where u just gotta do it for yourself your own way, learn from it and move on, I learnt shot loads reading about diets and food just to make myself a bit better on day, I wouldn't have done anything different, but now I know, I gotta readjust and crack on

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    I think it's one of them mate where u just gotta do it for yourself your own way, learn from it and move on, I learnt shot loads reading about diets and food just to make myself a bit better on day, I wouldn't have done anything different, but now I know, I gotta readjust and crack on
    Good lad u will do well mate as u looked good last time round so with some fine tuning the skys the limit pal if i can come close to your form il be happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignath4607
    Good lad u will do well mate as u looked good last time round so with some fine tuning the skys the limit pal if i can come close to your form il be happy Sent from my iPhone using Forum
    If you want a diet check I'm only too happy to help out, it can't hurt. I've even got outside help myself now. If you've got it covered then no worries, I don't wanna step on your toes dude. I'm sure you'll smash it, iv got every confidence !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320
    If you want a diet check I'm only too happy to help out, it can't hurt. I've even got outside help myself now. If you've got it covered then no worries, I don't wanna step on your toes dude. I'm sure you'll smash it, iv got every confidence !
    Mate any adviceis welcome as no one knows everything as i always say ive gone real simple
    Breakfast 2 soy linseed toast 5 scrambled eggs
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    Brunch 300g chicken 100g white rice with veg
    Hand full of pistachios
    Dinner 300g steak with 100g white rice with veg
    Phd flapjack
    Pre workout meal 4 egg omlette with 90g beans and a bananna
    Post workout whey by optimum nutrition
    2 cod fillets with brocolli
    Last meal before bed 200g turkey wrap with salad and some nuts

    I alternate my breakfast meal with porridge with a scoop of whey and tablespoon of peanut butter mixed in only sugars i take are whats in the protein

    When playing rugby on the sat i pretty much double my carbs on the fri but only if im playing
    What u saying big lad ?

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    Without the breakdown of numbers and macros it's hard mate, your diet looks good, stick to whole natural foods, zero sugar ( even fruit ), only good fats.

    The magic happens when you screw the numbers right down.

    Imo 2g per lb Lean body mass is overkill, nobody takes that amount not even pros, 1.5g per lb is on th top side, you only gotta burn the extra calories off anyway.

    Here's my diet and calculations for the next comp in 11 week.

    DIET CALCULATIONS. My calculations go like this; I want to be [email protected]% body fat so 205*0.95=195 LBM 195*15cals=2925cals to maintain so to lose 1lb a week less 500 cals from 2925=2425cals daily so at 195lbs i need 1.1g/lb = 240g protein per day; 240 * 4cals =960cals fats 0.3g/Lb = 58g/day = 58*8 = 468cals 960+468=1428 2425-1428=997 977/4=250 carbs per day So totals are calories 2425, protein 240, carbs 240g, fats 58g

    Food 2am whey isolate 430am mini shredded whets plain, with egg whites 7am whey isolate 930 mackerel 1230 tuna pepper no dressing 1500 whey and oats 1900 chicken and rice no sauce 2100 unsalted cashews. Totals 2202 cals 243 pro, 200 carbs, 50g fats, 30g sugars ( naturally occurring ), 38g fiber. No juice or pop

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