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Thread: Log: First Test E - it has began

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    Log: First Test E - it has began

    I have started my first Test E cycle and will be posting my daily/weekly log here.

    Below is the link of my old post for reference, where I asked for advice and suggestions.
    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...t-e-cycle.html

    First two weeks: 2x250mg per week (500mg weekly)
    Last ten weeks: 2 x 187mg per week (375mg weekly)

    I have upped from my original plan of sticking to 300mg to 375mg(eaiser to manage, 3 ampules per week).

    21st Nov(3AM): first pin of 250mg (on left bum), broke glass ampule while opening, fortunately I had syringe filter(.2u) to use, pined 250iu of hCG (subcutaneously, left side).
    It was push day (chest, shoulders and triceps), came home in evening and saw that my chest is pumped, got scared I am getting Gyno and took .5mg of Anastrozole(I am newbie so have mercy, lol) once my nerved settle then realized that I won't get gyno that fast. Since then I am taking Anastrozole EOD .25mg by using a pill cutter.

    24th Nov(12PM): week1 pin2 of Test E 250mg(on right bum) and hCG 250iu(subcutaneously, right side), my wife saw me preping needles and got scared what I am doing, so I took some time and explained her about TRT and the benefits which I may get, so she won't feel troubled.

    28th Nov(11PM): Week2 pin1 of Test E 250mg(on left bum) and hCG 250iu(subcutaneously, left side).
    I was using 25mm 1" needle for Test-E last week that's why the injections were easier and no pains or anything. But then I read that I need to use 1.5" needle for glute injections, so this time I used 21x1.5" which I had bought earlier: damn it did hurt and there was some blood afterwards. Wondering If I can use my 25mmx1" on glutes or not recommended at all?

    I only have one syringe filter, can i resue the same filter again and again? I did three pins so far and I am still unable to open the glass ampule cleanly(ampule doesn't have dots, only the white line).

    I'll try to post my daily workout routine and macros.

    Please do join and help on my journey.

    Cheers
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    Day 10 (30th Nov):

    I have gained 2-3k of weight, I guess it's water weight. I started on 65kg, I am hovering around 67.5kg now, it flactuate throughout the day, reaches 68+ by the time in go to bed.
    Recovery has improved, It could be due to the pre-workout I am taking, I used to have around 2 mins recovery time for next set, but now I am ready within 40-50 seconds for next one. Workout time has significantly reduced while keeping the same/improved volume.

    Supplements I am taking on the daily basis:
    1. Animal Pak
    2. Animal Flex
    3. Shaw Palmetto - 550mg
    4. NAC - 600mg

    Calories are 2400+ these days, trying to keep 40/40/20 ratio, but its hard on the day I didn't prep the meals. However I still get hands on some healthy food(easily available here and i dislike junk/fast food).

    Monday onwards, I'll increase the calories to 2500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titans2857 View Post
    Day 10 (30th Nov):

    I have gained 2-3k of weight, I guess it's water weight. I started on 65kg, I am hovering around 67.5kg now, it flactuate throughout the day, reaches 68+ by the time in go to bed.
    Recovery has improved, It could be due to the pre-workout I am taking, I used to have around 2 mins recovery time for next set, but now I am ready within 40-50 seconds for next one. Workout time has significantly reduced while keeping the same/improved volume.

    Supplements I am taking on the daily basis:
    1. Animal Pak
    2. Animal Flex
    3. Shaw Palmetto - 550mg
    4. NAC - 600mg

    Calories are 2400+ these days, trying to keep 40/40/20 ratio, but its hard on the day I didn't prep the meals. However I still get hands on some healthy food(easily available here and i dislike junk/fast food).

    Monday onwards, I'll increase the calories to 2500.
    Any before pics bro?
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    Why 375 per week?
    Why not 500?

    Not judging just curious.

    Good luck man! Love seeing logs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasinGains View Post
    Any before pics bro?
    Hi mate, the before pics are in last thread(URL in the first post), I'll upload the before and after pics again(may be around mid-cycle BW).

    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Why 375 per week?
    Why not 500?

    Not judging just curious.

    Good luck man! Love seeing logs!
    Thank you Obs.
    The idea I had is to try to gain as much possible with as little drug use, I know fancy dream, haha

    I have 250mg ampules so I thought I can use 3 ampules for two weeks pin, but frankly I'll just discard the leftover instead of keeping it.

    I'll save 500mg for my second cycle instead of my 1st one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titans2857 View Post
    Hi mate, the before pics are in last thread(URL in the first post), I'll upload the before and after pics again(may be around mid-cycle BW).



    Thank you Obs.
    The idea I had is to try to gain as much possible with as little drug use, I know fancy dream, haha

    I have 250mg ampules so I thought I can use 3 ampules for two weeks pin, but frankly I'll just discard the leftover instead of keeping it.

    I'll save 500mg for my second cycle instead of my 1st one.
    Thats cool understood!
    Good playing safe
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    Best of luck brother

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    Day 15.

    Week 2, Pin 2(250mg) was on 1st Dec, something went wrong(I guess injected a little higher in glute than should be) ended up in 3 days worth of pain and very restless sleeps, Mondy being the worse - didn't sleep at all except an hour. Finally, the pain went away on Tuesday and I slept day+night just to catch up with my lost snoozing.

    Week 3, Pin1 (~.7ml of 250mg, somwhere between 175-200mg) today(5th Dec), it was smooth, no pain so far. I checked the weight in morning today, it was up by 1.8kg, so the current morning weight is 66.8kg.

    I used to be a good eater, meaning I would eat a meal and then I'll be hungry again in 2.5-3 hours, however lately my apeptite isn't matching of old - I think it's because of my stupid preworkout and BCCAs which contains caffein.

    Can anyone share how does it feel when Test kicks in?
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    How’s the cycle going man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titans2857 View Post
    Day 15.

    Week 2, Pin 2(250mg) was on 1st Dec, something went wrong(I guess injected a little higher in glute than should be) ended up in 3 days worth of pain and very restless sleeps, Mondy being the worse - didn't sleep at all except an hour. Finally, the pain went away on Tuesday and I slept day+night just to catch up with my lost snoozing.

    Week 3, Pin1 (~.7ml of 250mg, somwhere between 175-200mg) today(5th Dec), it was smooth, no pain so far. I checked the weight in morning today, it was up by 1.8kg, so the current morning weight is 66.8kg.

    I used to be a good eater, meaning I would eat a meal and then I'll be hungry again in 2.5-3 hours, however lately my apeptite isn't matching of old - I think it's because of my stupid preworkout and BCCAs which contains caffein.

    Can anyone share how does it feel when Test kicks in?
    Personally i don't feel things "kick in" anymore, well not to the extent i used to. My first few cycles, i felt a sudden sense of high well being before anything, and then the strength and size followed. With test E generally it takes 4 weeks to start really noticing things...
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    Day 27.

    Week 4, pin1 (~.7ml of 250mg and 250cc hCG ) was on 12th Dec. I had to travel overseas that morning so took the pin early in morning. The travel was arranged for 4 days and it was worse for my nutritions and diet, I may have lost 1-2kg and looked thin when I returned on Saturday, feeling sick and sleep deprived.

    Week 4, pin2 (~.7ml of 250mg and 250cc hCG) was on 15th Dec, still feeling tired and sleep deprived, haven't done workouts in last 3 days, today I had my Karate grading and after that didn't have strength to go for workout.

    I wonder if I am overkilling my Estrogen with .25mg EOD, my knees/joints have started making clicking sound and I feel moody sometime with lower libido compare to pre-cycle.

    Checked my weight, I am hovering at 67kg, still 2kg up from initial weight. I'll redial my diet and starting forcing food down. I am hungry these days but don't have appetite/mood to eat.

    Donated my blood in a Hospital when I was on travel, Its hard to do that here due to travel regulations on blood donations.
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    Day 32.

    Week 5, pin 1 was on 19th Dec, I suspect that I injected around .8ml of 250mg this time along with 250cc of hCG . I was worried that I may be crashing my Estrogen since my wet gain was reduced, hence I changed my Anastrozole to .25mg E3D now and it seems to work better, I feel much better and have again started gaining some water weight I guess.

    There has been no sides so far, I have been using Himalaya anti-dand shampoo and nizoral shampoo periodically. I live in a humid country so I shampoo almost daily to keep my scalp clean.
    Currently I am only taking 375mg of Test E weekly, I wonder if I should stop taking AI and see If i gain more weight? Would be nice to have a suggestion on this from experienced pros here,

    I am uploading some progress photos.
    Before photo:
    Log: First Test E - it has began-2018-4.jpg

    Today's photos after Leg workout:
    Log: First Test E - it has began-img_7907.jpg
    Log: First Test E - it has began-img_9706.jpg
    Log: First Test E - it has began-img_7457.jpg

    7 and half week left for this journey, do provide your suggestions / recommendation please.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Log: First Test E - it has began-img_7907.jpg  
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    Took a day off after the leg workout, was able to squeeze a Push workout yesterday in busy schedule. Attaching the pics after the push workout's pump.

    Log: First Test E - it has began-img_9857.jpg
    Log: First Test E - it has began-img_9393.jpg

    I have stopped taking .25mg of AI EOD and is now taking E3D. I haven't seen any E sides so far, should I stop taking AI and see If my gains improve further? Would be great if someone can help on this one please.
    I am thinking to do the blood work on 7th week (currently in 5th week).
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    You are taking such a small dose of AI already, I do not see it as having any appreciable impact upon the rate at which you are making gains. If you are curious, why not just pulls bloods now?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by titans2857 View Post
    Took a day off after the leg workout, was able to squeeze a Push workout yesterday in busy schedule. Attaching the pics after the push workout's pump.

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    I have stopped taking .25mg of AI EOD and is now taking E3D. I haven't seen any E sides so far, should I stop taking AI and see If my gains improve further? Would be great if someone can help on this one please.
    I am thinking to do the blood work on 7th week (currently in 5th week).
    well you started taking an AI before ever knowing wither you need to be taking it or not in the first place. nothing wrong with dropping it out completely and seeing how you feel (theres no doubt that its doing nothing to help gains). you can always add it back in if you find your estrogen sensitive. but hopefully your not estrogen sensitive, as you'll be able to make better gains without crushing your E levels every cycle
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    Thank you Ernst and GH for the suggestions, I'll better do the BW this Sat or next Wed before pining.

    It seems my wish is coming true of side effects, lol
    I changed the AI to .25mgx2 per week, I can see few acnes on my shoulder/neck/back, face looks slightly puffy and i feel nipple area have started to become pointy though no pain so far.
    For now I'll go back to .25mg E3D and then decide after blood work, don't want to be greedy and get the gyno in exchange.

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    Mid-cycle blood work result is out, I went for test in Week-8, 1 day before second pin.

    Please help in understanding the result and provide the suggestions. It seems my Estorgen is pretty high, I have changed the AI dosage to .5mg EOD now, I wonder I made the right decision.

    HAEMATOLOGY EXAMINATION
    Total RBC : 4.9 M/cmm (M 4.5-6.0 F 4.0-5.5) : 4.9 x10^12 /L (M 4.5-6.0 F 4.0-5.5)
    Haemoglobin (Hb) : 14.3 g/dl : 143 gm/L (M 125-175 F
    115-155)

    (M 12.5-17.5 F
    11.5-15.5)

    Haematocrit(PCV) : 41 % : 0.41 L (M 0.40-0.50 F
    0.37-0.45)

    (M 40-50 F 37-45)

    MCV : 85 fl (82-98) : 85 fl (82-98)
    MCH : 29 pg (27-33) : 29 pg (27-33)
    MCHC : 35 % (31-35) : 350 g/L (310 - 350)
    RDW : 14.0 % (11.0 - 16.0) : 14.0 % (11.0 - 16.0)
    Total WBC : 5,200 /cmm (4,000 - 11,000 ) : 5.2 x10^9 /L (4-11)
    Differential Count
    *Polymorphs : 44 % (50-70) : 44 % (50-70)
    *Lymphocytes : 45 % (20 - 40) : 45 % (20 - 40)
    *Monocytes : 6 % < 10 : 6 % < 10
    *Eosinophils : 5 % < 4 : 5 % < 4
    *Basophils : 0 % (< 1) : 0 % (< 1)
    Absolute Count
    *Polymorphs : 2288 /cmm (2000-7500) : 2.3 x10^9/L (2.0 - 7.5)
    *Lymphocytes : 2340 /cmm (1000 - 4000) : 2.3 x10^9/L (1.0 - 4.0)
    *Monocytes : 312 /cmm < 1000 : 0.3 x10^9/L < 1.0
    *Eosinophils : 260 /cmm < 600 : 0.26 x10^9/L < 0.6
    *Basophils : 0 /cmm < 100 : 0.00 x10^9/L < 0.1
    ESR (Westergren) : 2 mm/hr (M 0-16 F 0-20 ) : 2 mm/hr (M 0-16 F 0-20 )
    Platelet count : 224,000 /cmm (150,000-400,000) : 224 x10^9 /L (150-400)

    RENAL FUNCTION TEST
    Sodium : 139 mmol/L (135 - 145) : 139 mmol/L (135 - 145)
    Potassium : 4.8 mmol/L (3.5-5.1) : 4.8 mmol/L (3.5-5.1)
    Chloride : 103 mmol/L (98-107) : 103 mmol/L (98-107)
    Urea : 34 mg/dl Male:<50yrs old 19-44 : 5.7 mmol/L
    Male<50yrs old:3.2-7.4
    :>50yrs old 18-55 >50yrs old:3.0-9.2

    Creatinine : 1.17 mg/dL (M 0.72 - 1.25 mg/dL) : 103.4 umol/L (M 63.6 - 110.5 umol/L)



    Glomerular Filtration Rate(Estimated) : 82 mL/min/1.73 m^2 : 82 mL/min/1.73 m^2
    Note : Calculation adopted from CKD-EPI

    Stages of Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Stage GFR (mL/min/1.73m^2) Description
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 >= 90 : Normal or increased GFR, with other evidence of kidney damage
    2 60 - 89 : Slight decrease in GFR, with other evidence of kidney damage
    3A 45 - 59 : Moderate decrease in GFR, with or without other evidence of kidney damage
    3B 30 - 44 : Moderate decrease in GFR, with or without other evidence of kidney damage
    4 15 - 29 : Severe decrease in GFR, with or without other evidence of kidney damage
    5 < 15 : Established renal failure
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Uric Acid : 6.1 mg/dl (M: 3.5-7.2, F: 2.6-6.0) : 363 umol/L (M:208-428, F:155-357)
    Calcium : 9.9 mg/dL (8.4-10.2) : 2.48 mmol/L (2.10-2.55)
    Phosphorus : 4.0 mg/dL (2.3-4.7) : 1.29 mmol/L (0.74-1.52)


    LIVER FUNCTION TEST
    Total Protein : 7.2 g/dL (6.4-8.3) : 72 g/L (64-83)
    Albumin : 4.5 g/dL (3.5-5.2) : 45 g/L (35-52)
    Globulin : 2.7 gm/dL (2.1-4.0) : 27 g/L (21-40)
    A/G Ratio : 1.7 (1.0-2.2) : 1.7 (1.0-2.2)
    Total Bilirubin : 0.8 mg/dl (0.2-1.2mg/dL) : 13.7 umol/L (3.4-20.5 umol/L)
    (Less than 10.0-NB) (Less than 171.0-NB)

    SGOT/AST : 35 U/L (5-34) : 35 U/L (5-34)
    SGPT/ALT : 32 U/L (0-55) : 32 U/L (0-55)
    Gamma Glutamyl : 16 U/L (M 12-64; F 9-36) : 16 U/L (M 12-64; F 9-36)
    Transpeptidase(GGT)


    Alkaline Phosphatase : 52 U/L (1-12years old<500 : 52 U/L (1-12years old<500
    M>20years M>20years
    M 12-15 years<750) M 12-15 years<750)


    OTHERS
    Blood Glucose : 87 mg/dl (Fasting <=100 mg/dl : 4.83 mmol/L (Fasting <=5.55 mmol/L
    Random <140 mg/dl) Random <7.77 mmol/L )

    Free T4 : 0.87 ng/dl 0.70-1.48 : 11.20 pmol/L 9.0-19.1
    Syphilis Serology (Modified VDRL):
    :Non-Reactive Non-Reactive

    Rheumatoid Factor (Quantitative) : < 20 IU/ml (<30 IU/ml) : < 20 IU/ml (<30 IU/ml)

    LIPIDS STUDIES
    Total Cholesterol : 150 mg/dL (< 200) : 3.89 mmol/L (< 5.18)
    Triglycerides : 56 mg/dL (<150) : 0.63 mmol/L (<1.70)
    HDL - Cholesterol : 58 mg/dL (>40) : 1.5 mmol/L (>1.0)
    LDL - Cholesterol : 81 mg/dL (Optimal < 100) : 2.1 mmol/L (Optimal < 2.6)
    Total Chol/HDL-Chol : 2.6 (Risk indicated if > 4.5) : 2.6 (Risk indicated if > 4.5)


    Non-HDL Cholesterol : 92 mg/dL : 2.38 mmol/L
    --------------------------------------------------------
    | Non-HDL Cholesterol | Levels of Classification |
    |--------------------------| |
    | mg/dL | mmol/L | |
    |--------------------------|----------------------------|
    | >=220 | >=5.70 | Very high |
    | 190-219 | 4.92-5.67 | High |
    | 160-189 | 4.14-4.90 | Borderline high |
    | 130-159 | 3.37-4.12 | Above desirable |
    | <130 | <3.37 | Desirable


    *Urine FEME (Urinalysis Strip) *Urine FEME (Urinalysis Strip) *Urine Microscopy
    *Wet smear (Urine deposit ) :-

    *pH : 6.5 *Pus cells : 0-1 /HPF
    *Protein : Negative *RBC : Nil /HPF
    *Glucose : Negative *Casts : Nil /LPF
    *Ketone : Negative *Epithelia : Nil /HPF
    *Blood : Negative *Bacteria : Nil /HPF
    *Colour : Straw
    Transparency : Clear

    *Specific Gravity : 1.015 : 1.015

    Reference Range for urine FEME
    __________________________________________________ _________________
    Parameter Range
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    PH 5.0 - 8.5
    Protein Negative
    Glucose Negative
    Ketone Negative
    Blood Negative
    Color Pale yellow to Amber
    Transparency Clear - slightly cloudy
    Specific Gravity 1.005 - 1.030
    __________________________________________________ __________________
    Reference Range for Microscopy
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    Parameter Range
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    WBC 0-5 /HPF
    RBC 0-3/ HPF
    Casts Hyaline 0-1/LPF ,granular cast present is abnormal
    Epithelia 0-5 /HPF
    Bacteria(Clean catch) Few/Occasional
    Crystals Usually not significant unless found persistently
    in patient with renal calculi or if associated with
    certain metabolic disease
    Amorphous Not significant
    __________________________________________________ __________________________


    Alpha Fetoprotein (AFP) : 7.73 ng/mL : 6.42 IU/mL (Up to 12.45 IU/mL in
    healthy subjects)

    (Up to 15.00 ng/ml in
    healthy subjects)

    High Sensitive CRP (hs-CRP) : 0.07 mg/dL (0 - 0.50 mg/dL) : 0.7 mg/L (0 - 5.0 mg/L)
    Testosterone : 3167.86 ng/dL Male : (142.39- 923.14): 109.92 nmol/l Male : (4.94 - 32.03)


    Serum Estradiol : 43 pg/ml : 157.9 pmol/L

    Estradiol Range
    (pg/ml)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Males ND - 107
    Menstruating females
    Follicular phase 19 - 183
    Midcycle 49 - 528
    Luteal phase 53 - 211
    Postmenopausal females (untreated) ND - 110
    *ND = Not detectable
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Estradiol Range
    (pmol/L)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Males ND - 393
    Menstruating females
    Follicular phase 70 - 672
    Midcycle 180 - 1938
    Luteal phase 195 - 775
    Postmenopausal females (untreated) ND - 404
    *ND = Not detectable

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    Haha, being newbie I was worried that I am going to get gyno and truth be told I just ate to much calories and got a little bit more fat than I started.
    I started on ~ 63.4/64kg and I am hovering ~69.5/70kg right now, I have gained decent size(I am being noticed a lot but not to much to make others suspicious, though some pros in the gym may have noticed my Acnes). I didn't get bloat or water retention(because I don't feel puffy at all).

    Lesson learned, my diet hasn't been perfect as I wanted - mostly due to travel and house relocation, thankfully I am surrounded with health Food courts/joints and I didn't get screwed to much on it.

    I did extend the cycle to 14 weeks, last pin was on this Monday, will wait 2 weeks and proceed with PCT.

    Sharing some of the photos I took in Jan and Feb during cycle. Log: First Test E - it has began-img_0582.jpg

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    Log: First Test E - it has began-img_0583.jpg
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