Fair Judging?

**buffteen** · 07-11-2004, 02:42 AM

This was the novice middleweight division at the Arizona, Im the guy 2places from the right side of the pic in the blue trunks. Was my third place finish fair? I know this is not the best pic but I will have much better ones up on wednesday when the promoter releases tonight's pics on the net.

**Pousah** · 07-11-2004, 05:44 AM

I think that the judges are professionals and they know what they do...
In here AR, we can´t say anything from the pics, and anything at all, unless someone is educated judge...
Btw, that photo is so poor, that everybody can be the winner and the last one, if we do the judging from that pic.

I can imagine that you are little bit disappointed about your 3rd place, but you should ask reasons from the judges, why other two competitors were better than you. Then you know it for the next time, and you will be better!

In finnish champs last autumn I was so ripped, no water, no fat, almost no skin, but I didn´t win. I was 2nd. Two judges came to me after the comp and said, "we placed you 1st, and we don´t know why others didn´t." But I was proud, because many peoples came to say me that I was the best. (the winner is now a very good friend of mine and we work now in the same place)

There can be various reasons for that why you dont´t win, even your physique is the best. If you can´t pose, you don´t smile, if you don´t look relaxed on the stage, IF the judges don´t know your name so well etc... You never know. That´s why the bodybuilding is so hard event to compete. You have to be the one with the best physique, everybody knows you, your poses are the best and everything else goes perfect. Then you win again and again!

Good luck for the future!

I wait to see more pics from your competition.

When you post the new pics, don´t tell the placings! Let us be the judges this time... for once.

**shorty2big** · 07-11-2004, 05:49 PM

hey bro, I was in the same show as you know. I dont think that I deserved the 2nd place finish that I got. My buddy should have taken my second place and I should have been placed 3rd or 4th in my opinion. But you hve to remember this is a subjective sport and all it is, is an opinion. There is no definite right or wrong placing. It just that particular judging panel at the time. That's the name of the game brother. By the way, you are one ****ing huge 19 yo kid. Much potential.
S2B

**kingofmasters** · 07-11-2004, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by shorty2big

hey bro, I was in the same show as you know. I dont think that I deserved the 2nd place finish that I got. My buddy should have taken my second place and I should have been placed 3rd or 4th in my opinion. But you hve to remember this is a subjective sport and all it is, is an opinion. There is no definite right or wrong placing. It just that particular judging panel at the time. That's the name of the game brother. By the way, you are one ****ing huge 19 yo kid. Much potential.
S2B

Is that you in the avatar shorty2big
--> Because you have got the nicest backdefenition I have ever seen!

Greets
Kingofmasters

**shorty2big** · 07-11-2004, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by kingofmasters

Is that you in the avatar shorty2big
--> Because you have got the nicest backdefenition I have ever seen!

Greets
Kingofmasters

yes it is. Thanks man.

**symatech** · 07-11-2004, 08:26 PM

you did alright man. Just keep at it and you'll get that 1st place. You have a whole lot of potential, so far your are utiliizing it. good job, and good luck.

peace

**Starter7777** · 07-11-2004, 08:32 PM

educated judge right here.......... Your a good 3rd, a debable 2nd.........
I have judge so many of these comps.........

**RATM** · 07-11-2004, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Starter7777

educated judge right here.......... Your a good 3rd, a debable 2nd.........
I have judge so many of these comps.........

not a flame, but that is a horrible pic at best that dosent show the good points of any of the competitors. What are you basing your statements on?

**Carlos_E** · 07-11-2004, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Starter7777

educated judge right here.......... Your a good 3rd, a debable 2nd.........
I have judge so many of these comps.........

You can't see s hit in those picts. So as an educated judge are you supposed to fill in the blanks? No, I don' think so.

**buffteen** · 07-11-2004, 09:19 PM

I am not really upset with my placing, I'm actually quite happy with my placing as I placed ahead of 4 other competitors older than me. I know that this pic is of poor quality but I will post better ones when the promoter releases them on wed. The judges really did screw up on on another guy in the open lt hwy wt division. They put a guy in 4th that deserved a solid second and a debatable first. The audience gasped and booed/cheered when they heard his placing. I'll put those pics up when they become available too.

**RATM** · 07-11-2004, 09:52 PM

buff,

you have one of the best physiques on here that i have seen on here. with proper diet and training, not to mention the right amount of gear, you might be in that one percent that turns a hobby into a career.

good luck in pittsburg and I for one will be following your progress....

**LeanMeOut** · 07-11-2004, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Starter7777

educated judge right here.......... Your a good 3rd, a debable 2nd.........
I have judge so many of these comps.........

You are SOOOOOOOOO FULL OF $HIT.

<<LMO>>

**eacman65** · 07-12-2004, 01:52 PM

cant see much in that pic

**cjvan** · 07-12-2004, 02:52 PM

LOL, there is no way any judge would make any decision based on that picture.No disrespect meant to you buff , you looked good in your precontest shots.

**birsling** · 07-12-2004, 09:08 PM

I'd say that from that pic, as the experienced judge I am

, I could close my eyes and pic the top 6

. Cmon, we will know more when Buff posts Wed. or Thurs. Till then, there is nothing that can be said

**birsling** · 07-12-2004, 09:09 PM

Oh, btw, I did want to say congrats to Buff and S2B for very nice showings. Takes a lot of hard work to do what you guys were doing, nice job to both of you (regardless of place).

**decadbal** · 07-13-2004, 09:48 AM

just from the pic above, i would have placed you 4th or 5th...

**buffteen** · 07-15-2004, 07:44 AM

The promoter guy I guess does not have his act together cuz the pics are not up yet on his site (www.npcmilesproductions.com). I did however find another site where a comparison pic of me in the Teen division.

**Latimus** · 07-15-2004, 01:00 PM

you are the by far the biggest one out of them...who beat u?

**majorpecs** · 07-15-2004, 04:35 PM

Bro you blow them away...wtf

**birsling** · 07-15-2004, 04:40 PM

Bro, you are definitely the biggest. The only person that may edge you, if the judges are biased to height, is the guy to the right of you. He seems to have the only other physique I would consider. I say yours is better, but he is taller. If partial to height, he would get the nod.