Post cycle

**O.fO.shO** · 06-06-2005, 03:15 PM

First off , i know , you all want me to shave .

That being said , here I am after my 2nd cycle . I'm not too happy with the results , but i did make gains . This was my planned cycle , but i cut it short:

wk 1-4 anadrol 50mgED (loved the anadrol)
wk 1-12 EQ 400mgEW
wk 1-14 TestE 500mgEW
wk 12-16 winny50mgED

wk 12-16 HCG
nolva ED
letro/fina ED
triblus ED
B6 ED

I stoped at week 12 because of a back injury (not from the gym) . Week 5 i also hurt my forearm (at the gym), think maybe torn tendon , still not better , going to the doc soon .

And din't run the winny because my hair line noticably receded and i dint wanna push it . This may be my last run with gear . If i do decide to do another one it will be a simple wk1-10 prop 750gmEW .

I'm just not happy with my gains , and i know it all boils down to diet . I ate as much as I could , and I know if i do want to get any bigger I'd have to step up my eating , which will be hard for me .

First 2 pics are before (190lbs), next 3 are about 3 weeks after PCT(200lbs) . I got up to 215lbs on cycle . I'm around 5'10-5'11" . I also dont have the discipline to eat real clean , so i know i gained some fat . Max bench did go up to 385lbs .

Flame away .

**Ntpadude** · 06-06-2005, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by O.fO.shO

I stoped at week 12 because of a back injury (not from the gym) . Week 5 i also hurt my forearm (at the gym), think maybe torn tendon , still not better , going to the doc soon .

And din't run the winny because my hair line noticably receded and i dint wanna push it . This may be my last run with gear . If i do decide to do another one it will be a simple wk1-10 prop 750gmEW .

I'm just not happy with my gains , and i know it all boils down to diet . I ate as much as I could , and I know if i do want to get any bigger I'd have to step up my eating , which will be hard for me .

First 2 pics are before (190lbs), next 3 are about 3 weeks after PCT(200lbs) . I got up to 215lbs on cycle . I'm around 5'10-5'11" . I also dont have the discipline to eat real clean , so i know i gained some fat . Max bench did go up to 385lbs .

Flame away .

Looks like you got a lot of growth in the deltoids, upper back, shoulders, traps, neck... great deal... this is the places that shows off your muscularity right thru your clothes!!! Good deal... looks like a very good productive cycle... your mistake was combining winny and EQ together and this is probably what caused the injury to your the forearm. Winny is just bad bad stuff for getting injuries like this.

**lucabratzi** · 06-06-2005, 03:28 PM

sucks that ur not satified with the gains, but i can still see noticable gains. anyway u look pretty good i would just hit the chest harder. legs look good too imo.

**O.fO.shO** · 06-06-2005, 03:41 PM

Thx for the compliments , and i din't run the winny .

**Ntpadude** · 06-06-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by O.fO.shO

Thx for the compliments , and i din't run the winny .

Just just read again... torn tendon or tendonitus, AKA tennis elbow?? Just relax the weights off this area continue workouts and it passes... I get this on left arm... I also found preacher curl machine was causing it... free weights which allow me to turn dumbells as I lift and lower stopped annoying the tendon and the tendonitus goes away... but I sure feel it QUICK if I do the fixed elbow/arm position preacher curl machine.

**O.fO.shO** · 06-06-2005, 04:00 PM

Not really sure what it is , here's a thread that i started , a bro tried helping me out , i iced it alot.....but to no avail .

Like i said , im making a doc appointment this week anyway .

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=152203

**jjgym** · 06-06-2005, 06:08 PM

No flame here. I see noticeable gains in the upper and lower body. I thought your wheels improved a great deal along with the delts as mentioned.

Just curious did you take before/after measurements? I would interested in seeing them if you did. Thanks.

**shreaded** · 06-06-2005, 06:17 PM

good leg developpement..................you definetely made some quality gains...............good max bench but you should work your chest differently ....its strong but lacks in size

**SooJuiced** · 06-06-2005, 07:30 PM

sorry about the hair line, that wont come back........

**O.fO.shO** · 06-06-2005, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by jjgym

No flame here. I see noticeable gains in the upper and lower body. I thought your wheels improved a great deal along with the delts as mentioned.

Just curious did you take before/after measurements? I would interested in seeing them if you did. Thanks.

sorry , never measured

**beyonddriven** · 06-07-2005, 12:36 AM

Legs look bigger I noticed more than anything that they are really more defined than they were pre cycle. Dont get discouraged keep training it looks like you made some decent gains.

**powerbodybuilder** · 06-07-2005, 07:26 PM

Looking good.

**Nicky B** · 06-07-2005, 09:56 PM

You went from 215 in the begining of pct and at the end you were 200 doesn't sound like a good pct. But you look pretty good bro.

**O.fO.shO** · 06-08-2005, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

You went from 215 in the begining of pct and at the end you were 200 doesn't sound like a good pct. But you look pretty good bro.

Thx , right on....PCT was ruff .

I missed 3 weeks after the back injury and when i got back in the gym , my exercises were limited....im 100% now .

On top of it all my appetite vanished and my calorie intake drop alot . Although , i had trouble breaking 205 on the cycle.....i really shoved food down hard tp get to 215....but i couldnt handle it for long....and i really held around 209 since the androl left .

In any case thx to everyone for the encouragement .

**AG5678** · 06-08-2005, 10:50 AM

I forsure see gains. Just curious what was your first cycle and how did that go?

**O.fO.shO** · 06-08-2005, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

I forsure see gains. Just curious what was your first cycle and how did that go?

my first cycle was :

wk 1-12Test E 500mgEW
wk 1-10Deca 400mgEW

I did that about one year ago.....it was a learning experience , i jumped in without a clue about diet , but straighten out somwhat half-way through . . I've been working out all my life , but dint know a whole lot about diet/training till i joined this site . I thought i went into the gym and busted my ass , why arn't i gaining? Thank god i found AR.....i made more improvment in the last year than 5 before it.....granted I'm using gear .

Only thing is i gained alot of fat , from not eating clean.....but im ok with that , im really not a "body-builder" , i just do it for me , and its not worth the tortue to eat "meat with no bread" in my case .

I put on a good 20lbs of muscle . This pic is when i was all natural .

**Jase** · 06-09-2005, 12:05 AM

Your quads look very good, keep up the great work and keep us all posted with your gains

Godspeed

**Ntpadude** · 06-09-2005, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by O.fO.shO

my first cycle was :

wk 1-12Test E 500mgEW
wk 1-10Deca 400mgEW

I did that about one year ago.....it was a learning experience , i jumped in without a clue about diet , but straighten out somwhat half-way through . . I've been working out all my life , but dint know a whole lot about diet/training till i joined this site . I thought i went into the gym and busted my ass , why arn't i gaining? Thank god i found AR.....i made more improvment in the last year than 5 before it.....granted I'm using gear .

Only thing is i gained alot of fat , from not eating clean.....but im ok with that , im really not a "body-builder" , i just do it for me , and its not worth the tortue to eat "meat with no bread" in my case .

I put on a good 20lbs of muscle . This pic is when i was all natural .

Yes we all blacken or redden out our faces because we are all cross-eyed buck-toothed West Virginia Hillbillies and dont mind showing off our bare chests and legs to the world but are terrified to show our faces too.

Just kidding with ya... but it does make you wonder... to be honest, most of the guys look very very similarly to each other on here... I tell you what.. about 1 more year of cycling and if I get the build I plant to get by then, when I get close to my 205 lbs goal... I will be proud to post picture of face to go along with the all stud body, hehehe. Until then I know everyone is going to jump on me and my 185# size telling me I should have waited until you are 200+ or you are too old or something for steroids . It takes a lot of guts to post a picture on here. I've seen some too many picture posters get eaten alive in here over the last couple years.

**Billyspt4** · 06-09-2005, 12:54 AM

Other than the injuries, it seems as though tha tcycle was very productive. Very nice gains, especially in the legs.

**O.fO.shO** · 06-09-2005, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Yes we all blacken or redden out our faces because we are all cross-eyed buck-toothed West Virginia Hillbillies and dont mind showing off our bare chests and legs to the world but are terrified to show our faces too.

lol....im a yank , NY here . I would really care less about showing my face , its more that i wouldnt want anyone from around here to notice me . Ignorant people place steroids right up there next to crack.....and i don't feel the need to educate people , most wont let you anyway .