Me b&after

[surfnsailor]

Hey Bros,

I had pics of me posted about 8 months ago and I cant find them. Well here is one, it is a cell phone pic so it is not the best quality. The one with the surfboard in the pic is the after pic, the one to the left is from about 8 months ago. I am all natural only been lifting 8 months. I believe there are a lot of steroid users that are cheats, another words they don’t have the discipline or dedication to work hard and eat right constantly so they use steroids , when you look at them they don’t really look that good. Then there are those who mastered the conditioning of there body naturally and are at there genetic limit or just want to get bigger quicker so they resort to science to achieve more results. I respect the latter of the two. I can’t help but laugh when I see a pic of non-muscular dude talking about his cycles. As for me I have chosen to stay natural, I don’t want to chance any health problems, I think I can get big naturally with the proper training and diet, at least bigger than a lot of users on this site. No disrespect to the reasonable roid users.

Later,
LIL chad

[Anthony C]

wow bro you do know your on STEROIDS DOT COM.I totaly respect your choice on not useing gear but to say you can end up being bigger than most of these guys around here on gear and you being all natural well thats just crazy talk bratha ..It looks like when you do decide to diet and eat right you will have a good frame but until then you got your work cut out for you ..Looks like you have made some improvments over the 8 months ..Good luck..AC

[pain time]

I have to agree the last entery you are on a steriod site. And in my opion guys and girls that use them still have to bust there butts hard in the gym mybe even harder then natural guys. But that is is your dicision to remain all natural and more power to you. I can defently see a good improvement in your pictuers. Keep you the hard work just be carfull how you word your post. And there is a safe way to use aas and then there is a way to abuse them and alot of the people here now the proper way to use them.

Keep training hard

[SwoleCat]

No comment.

~SC~

[timtim]

i am the latter of the types of "cheaters" you describe. so i guess take your pics and your opinions to an all natural board because people here hate soap box preachers.

i'm curious why you would post such an opinion when its obvious you have no idea about dieting anyway. sort of insulting to those of us who do know our stuff. you went from real fat to skinnier fat. not something i would call an accomplishment really.

keep those biased opinions coming though. i would say you have a few years of HARD CORE dieting before you can even think of talking all natural smack. a few meaning 3 to 5 at least. no tone, symmetry, or maturity on your build. but i guess after 8 hard months of training you would know what it takes to gain those. i hope no one here offers any assistance to you and your effort until you learn alittle respect to people who would run circles around you on and off gear. this site is loaded with extremely intelligent bodybuilders, natural and not. not a good idea to insult people who could help you reach your goals in half the time.

[diponyou]

i am the latter of the types of "cheaters" you describe. so i guess take your pics and your opinions to an all natural board because people here hate soap box preachers.

i'm curious why you would post such an opinion when its obvious you have no idea about dieting anyway. sort of insulting to those of us who do know our stuff. you went from real fat to skinnier fat. not something i would call an accomplishment really.

keep those biased opinions coming though. i would say you have a few years of HARD CORE dieting before you can even think of talking all natural smack. a few meaning 3 to 5 at least. no tone, symmetry, or maturity on your build. but i guess after 8 hard months of training you would know what it takes to gain those. i hope no one here offers any assistance to you and your effort until you learn alittle respect to people who would run circles around you on and off gear. this site is loaded with extremely intelligent bodybuilders, natural and not. not a good idea to insult people who could help you reach your goals in half the time.

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[Myka]

hmm...you dont even have natural muscle that all people have WITHOUT lifting...

Some guys are really skinny so you can see some cuts and muscle...but you dont even have that...kind of chubby even...No one will forget your post so dont expect a lot of help...not that youll need it

[Hokies]

I think what u are referring to is guys that start taking steroids way before they reach their genetic potential naturally or before they have achieved a solid base. They turn out looking out of proportion (usually all chest) and have a me me attitude. These type of guys dont last long on this board as well as people (you) who post insulting threads stating i am better than most of you, etc.

The point of posting pics is to get suggestions/feedback. But with your attitude it seems you already know everything, hence making the thread pointless other than us agreeing that you have a natural build.

Pipe down and have fun while taking advantage of the info provided to you from this community/forum. Keep your posts positive and the support you'll recieve will be an empowering experience.

[daytrader]

Lmao... bro i think it goes without saying your natural.... we all can tell .... NARLEYYYYY DUDEE!!! YAA

[surfnsailor]

hmm...you dont even have natural muscle that all people have WITHOUT lifting...

Some guys are really skinny so you can see some cuts and muscle...but you dont even have that...kind of chubby even...No one will forget your post so dont expect a lot of help...not that youll need it

Where are your pics? You must be one of those roid users.

To all the haters, let me clarify something. I was dissing the people who use roids the wrong way and I was saying I could get bigger than them. I was not disrespecting everyone that uses roids. I believe there are two groups here drug heads or athletes. Don’t you agree? I suppose most of the drug heads wont post there pics and the athletes who use roids will. To all the sincere athletes who use roids, more power to ya!

LIL chad

[daytrader]

hmm...you dont even have natural muscle that all people have WITHOUT lifting...

Some guys are really skinny so you can see some cuts and muscle...but you dont even have that...kind of chubby even...No one will forget your post so dont expect a lot of help...not that youll need it

Yeawow this guy really rubbed me the wrong way... ... what a cocky shit..... the bad part is you can tell he believes what he wrote

[Myka]

Where are your pics? You must be one of those roid users.

To all the haters, let me clarify something. I was dissing the people who use roids the wrong way and I was saying I could get bigger than them. I was not disrespecting everyone that uses roids. I believe there are two groups here drug heads or athletes. Don’t you agree? I suppose most of the drug heads wont post there pics and the athletes who use roids will. To all the sincere athletes who use roids, more power to ya!

LIL chad

How did I know out of all the posts you would be offended and quote mine

What can I say...I have the gift to offend...

And no I dont use steroids ...but I know your arrogance will spill over into all aspects of the sport...

[Myka]

Yeawow this guy really rubbed me the wrong way... ... what a cocky shit..... the bad part is you can tell he believes what he wrote

Yeah he was saying he "cant help but laugh at non muscular people who do cycles" So yeah I can tell he would be a great addition to the board

[surfnsailor]

How did I know out of all the posts you would be offended and quote mine

What can I say...I have the gift to offend...

And no I dont use steroids...but I know your arrogance will spill over into all aspects of the sport...

I would call it a curse. I accept your opinion, I just don't agree. If you don't accept mine it gives you know right to be an ass, of coarse unless you were born one.

[Myka]

I would call it a curse. I accept your opinion, I just don't agree. If you don't accept mine it gives you know right to be an ass, of coarse unless you were born one.

you have to understand that the way you came across in your original post made you look the same as the way you perceive me to be...

And yes I am a quite a jerk in real life...but I try to be nice to my AR bros!!...

[surfnsailor]

Yeah he was saying he "cant help but laugh at non muscular people who do cycles" So yeah I can tell he would be a great addition to the board

When you use the term “just cant help but laugh” it means you think you shouldn’t because it is not right to but you cant help it or control it. Sorry you must be holier than me.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Keep up the good work.

[Hellmaskbanned]

When I see non-muscular folk doing hardcore cycles I can't help but laugh aswell.

To much hate my children, lets all share the happyness.

[surfnsailor]

you have to understand that the way you came across in your original post made you look the same as the way you perceive me to be...

And yes I am a quite a jerk in real life...but I try to be nice to my AR bros!!...

In my original post I said “I respect the latter of the two”and“No disrespect to the reasonable roid users.” It is not my fault people did not put it all in context. Words are funny.

[surfnsailor]

Keep up the good work.

Thanks bro! I am working hard. I will post another pic next year!

[Hellmaskbanned]

To many people jump on steroids for all the wrong reasons, glad to see someone doing it natural.

[surfnsailor]

i am the latter of the types of "cheaters" you describe. so i guess take your pics and your opinions to an all natural board because people here hate soap box preachers.

i'm curious why you would post such an opinion when its obvious you have no idea about dieting anyway. sort of insulting to those of us who do know our stuff. you went from real fat to skinnier fat. not something i would call an accomplishment really.

keep those biased opinions coming though. i would say you have a few years of HARD CORE dieting before you can even think of talking all natural smack. a few meaning 3 to 5 at least. no tone, symmetry, or maturity on your build. but i guess after 8 hard months of training you would know what it takes to gain those. i hope no one here offers any assistance to you and your effort until you learn alittle respect to people who would run circles around you on and off gear. this site is loaded with extremely intelligent bodybuilders, natural and not. not a good idea to insult people who could help you reach your goals in half the time.

Can't you read, I only called the first a cheater the seckond or latter I said they were mastered at conditionig there body and use science(aas) to get further. Then I said I respect the latter.

[omnipotent]

funny guy

[Myka]

here you are in june...dont know if this is what you were looking for:...

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=169137

[surfnsailor]

here you are in june...dont know if this is what you were looking for:...

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=169137

Thanks Bro! I copied them to my hard drive so I can have b/after pics through out the years.

LIL chad

[pelly789]

not to smart to come onto a steroid board and start dissing people that use aas, whether you like it or not there will be those people who use aas for stupid reasons with no knowledge of them and anyway you dont know any one on here and judging by your pics your pictures from 8 months ago make you look bigger than the ones that you just posted and like said before your no where near ready to use aas yet you need to fix your diet and train for a good 2-3 years before...so my advice would be to read up on aas and other supplements learn all you can stay natural for a couple more years then make your decision from there, maybe you wont even want to juice in two years time if you make some good gains naturally

[mesomorph]

Thanks Bro! I copied them to my hard drive so I can have b/after pics through out the years.

LIL chad

I think you have a descent base for natural for sure. I agree that I have seen worse that are using gear. I think it proves you have good genetics. It will be interesting to see how much more mass you can put on natural. I admit I haven't seen too many that end up looking too impressive that remain natural.

[Iron_Head_101]

Dude these post are way to long for me to surf threw....lateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr duuu de..

[goalseeker]

. I believe there are a lot of steroid users that are cheats, another words they don’t have the discipline or dedication to work hard and eat right constantly so they use steroids, when you look at them they don’t really look that good. LIL chad

this is a greatly respected forum, with alot of dedicated, hard working individuals that have attained theyre goals, and are kind enough to share theyre wisdom with those of us that have the same desires....
Insulting comments like yours are not welcomed here, and I suggest you try a different approach next time you start a thread, if your not already banned by this one......
~GS~

[surfnsailor]

this is a greatly respected forum, with alot of dedicated, hard working individuals that have attained theyre goals, and are kind enough to share theyre wisdom with those of us that have the same desires....
Insulting comments like yours are not welcomed here, and I suggest you try a different approach next time you start a thread, if your not already banned by this one......
~GS~

Don’t take one sentence out and make me look like an ass. I said I respect those that use roids the right way. Can't you understand, put things in context? I said there were athletes who use them right and then there are people who don’t which I labeled as cheats because they don’t want to work hard they just want to do roids then they brag about all the cycles they have done and they don’t even look that good. Capish

[chest6]

Okay Mr. Natural. I dont think ur that big at all. Not big enough to be talking about being natty and you will get bigger than guys that take aas. Dont like your attitude. You are on a STEROID board. Take that somewhere else.

[mesomorph]

Don’t take one sentence out and make me look like an ass. You’re such an ass.

That will get you banned, you better edit it or you are gone.

[surfnsailor]

this is a greatly respected forum, with alot of dedicated, hard working individuals that have attained theyre goals, and are kind enough to share theyre wisdom with those of us that have the same desires....
Insulting comments like yours are not welcomed here, and I suggest you try a different approach next time you start a thread, if your not already banned by this one......
~GS~

Ahhh Haaaa look at this guy. Perfect example, he does big cycles and look at his body, he hardly looks like he even lifts weights, see his other front pics Now I know why he only saw a sentence in my post, pulled it out of context and tried to…

[chest6]

Ahhh Haaaa look at this guy. Perfect example, he does big cycles and look at his body, he hardly looks like he even lifts weights, see his other front pics Now I know why he only saw a sentence in my post, pulled it out of context and tried to…

dude ur not big. Im 10 years younger, natural, and a lot bigger than you. Stop acting like you are.

[surfnsailor]

Okay Mr. Natural. I dont think ur that big at all. Not big enough to be talking about being natty and you will get bigger than guys that take aas. Dont like your attitude. You are on a STEROID board. Take that somewhere else.

I think it is safe to say that somebody that is nat and works out hard can get bigger than somebody that hardly works out and is on ass. Take you attitude someware else buddy. the rest of you can stay

[surfnsailor]

dude ur not big. Im 10 years younger, natural, and a lot bigger than you. Stop acting like you are.

I don’t want to argue with a kid. Have a good life

[Abenaki Blood]

You coming in here and dissing roids is like going to the ghetto and using the "N" word, gain some common sense bro.

[daytrader]

Ahhh Haaaa look at this guy. Perfect example, he does big cycles and look at his body, he hardly looks like he even lifts weights, see his other front pics Now I know why he only saw a sentence in my post, pulled it out of context and tried to…

You gotta be kiddin me... now your callin peeps out... IMO he looks better than you... now youll rip on me ok

[BeerBaron]

what are your stats anyway?

[surfnsailor]

You coming in here and dissing roids is like going to the ghetto and using the "N" word, gain some common sense bro.

Where is your sense, I did not diss roids, bro. I dissed people who misuse roids. get it