25 yrs old, going to try 1st cycle

**Want2bhuge** · 03-22-2006, 04:38 PM

i have been working out for 10 years now and am getting ready for my first cycle. I'm 25 yrs old, 5'11" at 205 lbs. Bodyfat=15%?. i have hit a plateau and want something to push me past. i usually take summers (about 2-3 months) off with a few workouts/week and then continue in Sept. thru May lifting pretty intense. i want to try a cylce that isn't too intense to try and get a feel for how it will work for my body. i have sust (10ml botle) with deca (10ml bottle) and clomid for pct. Here is my plan. i want to gain some muscle mass and maybe lose a little bodyfat. i eat pretty clean with lots of protein, mod. fat & carbs 2500-3500cal/day depending on my goals. Here is my plan:
week 1-10 sust 250mg/week
week 1-9 deca 200mg/week
week 13-15 clomid 100mg week 13 and 50mg week 13-14. Do you think this will be effective? and how should i diet for these goals? i know you still need the calories to build muscle even on ASs, but i don't want too many in fear of gaining more fat.
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**ward065** · 03-22-2006, 04:43 PM

judging by the pic you are definetely ready for a cycle....however, i would suggest that you make it a bulking cycle instead of a cutter. Your body fat looks to be relatively low from the pics. I would eat a higher calorie diet, 5 meals or so and focus on training hard and gaining mass- if you do it right you can gain mostly muscle, and then if you are inclined to later you can focus on dieting.

***Alex*** · 03-22-2006, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by ward065

judging by the pic you are definetely ready for a cycle....however, i would suggest that you make it a bulking cycle instead of a cutter. Your body fat looks to be relatively low from the pics. I would eat a higher calorie diet, 5 meals or so and focus on training hard and gaining mass- if you do it right you can gain mostly muscle, and then if you are inclined to later you can focus on dieting.

ditto.bulk.bulk.bulk

**Want2bhuge** · 03-22-2006, 08:04 PM

i've read where some AS claim to gain muscle while burning bodyfat. Has anyone had any success doing this? what was used?

**mesomorph** · 03-22-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Want2bhuge

i've read where some AS claim to gain muscle while burning bodyfat. Has anyone had any success doing this? what was used?

Shit Dude! You look awesome already for natty! Probably bigger than me already!

Test & Tren does the best for me for putting on mass while loosing fat. But everyone seems to suggest having a few cycles under your belt before trying tren. I think a low dose cycle is OK though myself, like 400mg test a week & 75mg tren every other day.

Don't care if someone disagrees, so I will anticipate and say why not just use test only for a first cycle at like 500 mg a week?

**ward065** · 03-22-2006, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Want2bhuge

i've read where some AS claim to gain muscle while burning bodyfat. Has anyone had any success doing this? what was used?

Look at my pics.... in 14 months i gained about 23-25 pounds. And i lost bodyfat as WELL during that time. 2 1/2 cycles completed...

I think Tren is something that can do this.....However, in my 1st cycle which was test and deca , i even lost some bodyfat while gaining muscle, but i admit at that time my diet was not really as good as it could have been (i had trouble eating enough)- although i did gain some muscle.