5 months out of action..look like s**it

**mamias20918756** · 06-11-2006, 07:09 AM

Hey bros what's up?
I've been working out on and off for three years but only since last summer i started eating right and training on a schedule.
I made a 5 week deca ,sustanon ,winstrol cycle, but right before pct i had a car accident and since then i'm trying to force my way into the gym again.
I haven't made any serious excersise for about 5 months now, but planing on starting a 25(including pct) weeker bulker consisting of
sustanon 500mg/week
deca 400mg/week
winstrol 50mg/eod

I also lost a lot of muscle i was at 182lb with 17-18% bodyfat and i've drop at 155-160lb bf is now around 15-16%.
I know i look terrible, just wanted to get some feedback if i'm in the right way...

**mamias20918756** · 06-11-2006, 07:13 AM

another pic, sorry for the quality guys
Please critique, any comments and suggestions are welcome,
Thanks a milion bros

**helium3** · 06-11-2006, 07:23 AM

not sure about the cycle but you look fine to me just get back training and cycle in 6months or so,but its up to you.

**mamias20918756** · 06-11-2006, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by helium3

not sure about the cycle but you look fine to me just get back training and cycle in 6months or so,but its up to you.

Thanks bro, but i must say you look even better

Yeah i need to get my blood checked before cycle i know, if i start the bulker i mentioned that will be around july, if everything is ok

**biglouie250** · 06-11-2006, 03:34 PM

2nd cycle will be a 25 week cycle? 6months on gear? am i reading that correctly bro? sorry to hear about your accident but IMO with some hard work and visiting the bulking sticky in the diet section youll put on some serious lean mass! you dont look that bad, and i wouldnt want to see you put your health in jeopardy by doing 25 weeks of gear!! also just some basic FYI, winny needs to be taken ED not EOD to get stable blood levels, and sust needs to be shot EOD, to maximize the results of the short estered prop found in it(also stabalizes prop blood levels).

**mamias20918756** · 06-11-2006, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by biglouie250

2nd cycle will be a 25 week cycle? 6months on gear? am i reading that correctly bro? sorry to hear about your accident but IMO with some hard work and visiting the bulking sticky in the diet section youll put on some serious lean mass! you dont look that bad, and i wouldnt want to see you put your health in jeopardy by doing 25 weeks of gear!! also just some basic FYI, winny needs to be taken ED not EOD to get stable blood levels, and sust needs to be shot EOD, to maximize the results of the short estered prop found in it(also stabalizes prop blood levels).

Yeah i allready know all that info bro and thanks for pointing that out.
Sustanon will be shot eod .50 ml eod and deca will be used at 400 mg split into two injections 2 ml each.
Winny is shot eod due to it's cost mainly, i know some people say if you don't have the money to do it right then don't cycle at all, well i have a lot of friends who had great results injecting winny eod and such use of the drug is also mentioned on the profile section.
As for the 25 weeker you are right bro but i would like to see what it's like since everyone who's done such a cycle claims he felt great and gains kept on coming...19 weeks including pct is the best option i have in mind, less supression, less gear

**biglouie250** · 06-12-2006, 07:24 AM

yea but if you are shooting winny EOD, why not cut the cycle length and shoot it ED?? also i think that .5ml of sust EOD is not much at all, why not take 1ml EOD and cut the cycle length there as well? with 750mgs of sust/wk, 400mgs of deca /wk, and 50mgs of winny ED, you cant setup a nice 12-15 weeker. Also as an aside, i dont think you have a solid enough base to justify the use of gear, not a flame but i think working out natty and reading a lot of info in the diet forum will do you better in the long run. if you arent dieting properly, you wont be able to keep the look youll get from your cycle. just an assessment.

**IBdmfkr** · 06-12-2006, 08:58 AM

Seems you are looking for a quick fix, I'd get back on train diet/training-wise and then see how things are looking in 6months. I mean you are 160lbs, Eat 3500-4000calories/day and you'll grow like a weed. JMO.

**Carlos_E** · 06-12-2006, 11:47 AM

How tall are you?

**EcToMoRpHiAn** · 06-13-2006, 02:15 PM

I don't think your BF is at 15-16% right now. I would guess more around 12%, but also hard to judge from the pics. Why are you gonna "jumpstart" working out again with a cycle. You should be able to make huge gains from a good diet and muscle memory if you were at 180lbs before this. Lift hard, eat big, and grow natty for a couple months at least.

**SwoleCat** · 06-13-2006, 04:20 PM

My advice would be to workout for years and make sure it's something you wish to adopt as a lifestyle. Then, and only then, should you even think of introducing exogenous supplementation. Nothing worse than "quick fix" threads.

~SC~

**slob** · 06-13-2006, 08:03 PM

just eat,lift,sleep repeat.
forget aas at this point

**Thug Nasty** · 06-13-2006, 10:54 PM

You look pretty good now with a decently low bf%. Go natty for a while and stay lean.

**mamias20918756** · 06-14-2006, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

How tall are you?

1.75 cm, but i hold weight really well

**mamias20918756** · 06-14-2006, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by biglouie250

yea but if you are shooting winny EOD, why not cut the cycle length and shoot it ED?? also i think that .5ml of sust EOD is not much at all, why not take 1ml EOD and cut the cycle length there as well? with 750mgs of sust/wk, 400mgs of deca/wk, and 50mgs of winny ED, you cant setup a nice 12-15 weeker. Also as an aside, i dont think you have a solid enough base to justify the use of gear, not a flame but i think working out natty and reading a lot of info in the diet forum will do you better in the long run. if you arent dieting properly, you wont be able to keep the look youll get from your cycle. just an assessment.

Since 16 i try to keep diet in check and follow a <<clean>> bulking diet.
I haven't been able to workout the past few months, but i tryed to eat as to maintain my weight as much as i could. As far as the dosages you proposed, it seems you are right. I'll adjust the upcoming cycle to meet you suggestions.

Thanx for the reply's bros, i really appreciate your commends/advises

**IBdmfkr** · 06-14-2006, 12:10 PM

Look good Mamias.

I'd say if anything needs to be brought up to par it would be the legs.
Otherwise, good base and foundation to build off of.

**mamias20918756** · 06-14-2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Look good Mamias.

I'd say if anything needs to be brought up to par it would be the legs.
Otherwise, good base and foundation to build off of.

Thenks bro, but i must say that chest and Abs also need improvement.
Looking forward to catch up with you guys

**IBdmfkr** · 06-14-2006, 09:29 PM

Yes but Legs are a far more important muscle to have built

Also chest/abs take far less time to sculpt than Legs do. Therefore I'd concentrate 1day/wk focusing on heavy compound leg movements. You'll thank me in a year.

**mamias20918756** · 06-15-2006, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Yes but Legs are a far more important muscle to have built

Also chest/abs take far less time to sculpt than Legs do. Therefore I'd concentrate 1day/wk focusing on heavy compound leg movements. You'll thank me in a year.

Thanks for thge info bro, so you're saying that i should hit legs hard with the maximum possible weight in the low rep range?
In the current routine i am following i hit legs once a week and i do SQUAT 3 sets of 6-8 reps where i usually go as heavy as possible, leg presses 4 sets of 8-10 reps, leg curls 3 sets 8-10 reps as heavy as i can go.
Is this enought?
Calvs are on back day.
Calvs routine: Seated raises 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Standing calf raises 2-3 sets of 8-10 reps

**mamias20918756** · 06-15-2006, 07:41 AM

bump...anyone??

**IBdmfkr** · 06-15-2006, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by mamias20918756

Thanks for thge info bro, so you're saying that i should hit legs hard with the maximum possible weight in the low rep range?
In the current routine i am following i hit legs once a week and i do SQUAT 3 sets of 6-8 reps where i usually go as heavy as possible, leg presses 4 sets of 8-10 reps, leg curls 3 sets 8-10 reps as heavy as i can go.
Is this enought?
Calvs are on back day.
Calvs routine: Seated raises 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Standing calf raises 2-3 sets of 8-10 reps

I can't say if it's enough because of a few factors.. I don't lift with you so I don't know if your intensity is high enough and you are really pushing yourself to lift those 6-8reps.. You'll have to determine this upon trial and error to see what works best for you. I like the routine but switch it up a little bit week to week.. Also I don't do any isolated movements while bulking (ex. leg curls). Try weight lunges or straight-leg deadlifts. Much better movements for growth.

Best of luck and let us know how it is coming in a few months.

**mamias20918756** · 06-15-2006, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I can't say if it's enough because of a few factors.. I don't lift with you so I don't know if your intensity is high enough and you are really pushing yourself to lift those 6-8reps.. You'll have to determine this upon trial and error to see what works best for you. I like the routine but switch it up a little bit week to week.. Also I don't do any isolated movements while bulking (ex. leg curls). Try weight lunges or straight-leg deadlifts. Much better movements for growth.

Best of luck and let us know how it is coming in a few months.

Got it bro, thanx a million, i will post some pics when time is right

**Testostack** · 06-15-2006, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

My advice would be to workout for years and make sure it's something you wish to adopt as a lifestyle. Then, and only then, should you even think of introducing exogenous supplementation. Nothing worse than "quick fix" threads.

~SC~

Ditto 100%