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    Arrow clen log with pics

    Hi everyone. The knowledge that I've gained from lurking around this forum for a while was invaluable and motivational. That being said I just ordered some clen and taurine from lion and it will be here any day now (hopefully.)

    I've spent the past year trying to get back in shape. I had been drinking pretty heavily and eating like shit since I stopped playing hockey in my early 20's, I'm 27 now, and needless to say it showed. I was around 260lbs at 5'9" and I'd guess that my bf was around 30%. I got off the pizza and beer diet (not a drop of alcohol in about 6 months) and am 235 now lifting 4 times a week and my guess is bf in the low 20%'s. I'm gonna have the bf checked at the gym on Thursday so I can keep close track of things.

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    My day and diet will look something like this:

    day 1:chest and bis

    6:15a.m. 30mcg clen
    6:30a.m. 30mins cardio on bike
    7:15a.m. 1 cup oatmeal with 2 servings egg beaters water splenda and cinnamon
    360 calories 6g fat 54g carb 22g protein
    8:30a.m. 2 scoops nitro tech in water
    220 calories 3g fat 6g carbs 40g protein
    10:30a.m. 1 chicken breast (140g)
    231 calories 5g fat 0g carb 43g protein
    11:30p.m. 30mcg clen
    12:30p.m. 1 chicken breast (140g)
    231 calories 5g fat 0g carb 43g protein
    3:30p.m. 2 scoops nitro tech in water
    220 calories 3g fat 6g carb 43g
    5:30p.m. 1 chicken breast (140g)
    231 calories 5g fat 0g carb 43g protein
    7:30p.m. preworkout 1 scoop nitro tech 2g taurine 1 animal training pack vitamin
    110 calories 1.5g fat 3g carb 20g protein
    8:00p.m. chest and bis workout with 30 min cardio
    9:15p.m. 1 scoop nitro tech in water
    110 calories 1.5g fat 3g carb 20g protein
    9:45p.m. post workout 1/2 cup whole grain pasta 1 chicken breast 1/4 cup sauce 2g taurine
    476 calories 8g fat 48g carb 51g protein
    11:00p.m. pm protein (gnc casein mix)
    190 calories 2g fat 2g carb 40g protein
    11:15p.m bedtime

    daily totals:60mcg clen, 4g taurine
    2379 calories, 33g fat, 122g carb, 365g protein

    This is pretty similar to the diet that I've been on for the past few months and I think it's worked pretty well so far. The only new additions are the clen and taurine. It also isn't always chicken I mix the meat up a bit. Any advice or criticism would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pags
    My day and diet will look something like this:

    day 1:chest and bis

    6:15a.m. 30mcg clen
    6:30a.m. 30mins cardio on bike
    7:15a.m. 1 cup oatmeal with 2 servings egg beaters water splenda and cinnamon
    360 calories 6g fat 54g carb 22g protein
    8:30a.m. 2 scoops nitro tech in water
    220 calories 3g fat 6g carbs 40g protein
    10:30a.m. 1 chicken breast (140g)
    231 calories 5g fat 0g carb 43g protein
    11:30p.m. 30mcg clen
    12:30p.m. 1 chicken breast (140g)
    231 calories 5g fat 0g carb 43g protein
    3:30p.m. 2 scoops nitro tech in water
    220 calories 3g fat 6g carb 43g
    5:30p.m. 1 chicken breast (140g)
    231 calories 5g fat 0g carb 43g protein
    7:30p.m. preworkout 1 scoop nitro tech 2g taurine 1 animal training pack vitamin
    110 calories 1.5g fat 3g carb 20g protein
    8:00p.m. chest and bis workout with 30 min cardio
    9:15p.m. 1 scoop nitro tech in water
    110 calories 1.5g fat 3g carb 20g protein
    9:45p.m. post workout 1/2 cup whole grain pasta 1 chicken breast 1/4 cup sauce 2g taurine
    476 calories 8g fat 48g carb 51g protein
    11:00p.m. pm protein (gnc casein mix)
    190 calories 2g fat 2g carb 40g protein
    11:15p.m bedtime

    daily totals:60mcg clen, 4g taurine
    2379 calories, 33g fat, 122g carb, 365g protein

    This is pretty similar to the diet that I've been on for the past few months and I think it's worked pretty well so far. The only new additions are the clen and taurine. It also isn't always chicken I mix the meat up a bit. Any advice or criticism would be great.
    your diet need a lot of work man, read some more.

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    Damn, thats a lot of nitro tech. My I suggest a clean food alternative?

    Good luck, bro. Keep up the hard work.

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    Excellent work, well done and it will be interesting to keep an eye on this. Keep up the good work.

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    I'll give a start up hint:
    1- divide your meals to contain Carbs and Protein or Fat and Protein.
    no protein alone.
    2- reduce your intake of protein shakes, remember shakes are supposed to be the completion part of your meal, NOT a meal replacement.

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    Yeh I figured the diet needed some work. What would you suggest in place of some of those shakes? More meat? How does the overall totals look?

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    Yeh I figured the diet was gonna need some work. What would you guys suggest to replace some of the shakes? Maybe meat and some nuts? How do the overall totals look?

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    red meat is a poor choice, stick to fish, poultry, eggs and diray products (for ex. Cottage cheese).
    for carbs, choose whole grains, brown rice, or vegies and.
    for fat flax seed oil, olive oil, peanut butter.

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    Thanks for the help smoke. I'll read up a lil more and tweak it a bit and post an updated one soon.

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    good luck man, post your new updated diet for more input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    red meat is a poor choice, stick to fish, poultry, eggs and diray products (for ex. Cottage cheese).
    for carbs, choose whole grains, brown rice, or vegies and.
    for fat flax seed oil, olive oil, peanut butter.

    red meat is never a poor choice when cutting or bulking. it depends on the cut of meat.

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    true i agree it does depend on the cut. Anyhow good luck man train hard and you will be lean in no time

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    Looks like you have made a good start. Going from 260 to 235 is no joke. Clen can help, but diet is always going to the most important thing. I'm sure you will reach you goal if you keep motivated and stick to the diet. Best of luck.

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    Red meat is a great choice period.

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    gl keep it updated

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    O.k. got the clen yesterday around noon and I have to say thanks to lion for the incredibly fast shipping. I ordered it Tuesday night it shipped Wednesday and was in my hands on Thursday...****ing awesome.

    I started taking it this morning all 60mcg at once and it had me pretty wired. About 20 minutes after I took it I hit the gym for 25 minutes of cardio.

    I'm know my diet still needs work but hopefully I'm on the right track. Here it is:

    meal 1: (30 mins after cardio) 1 cup oatmeal with splenda and cinnamon and 2 scoops nitro tech

    meals 2,3 and 4: chicken breast and an ounce of dry roasted peanuts

    meal 5 immediately after workout:2 scoops nitro tech

    meal 6: chicken breast, 1 cup pasta, 1/2 cup sauce

    meal 7: 2 scoops casein protein

    Now for the workout:

    squats 135x12, 185x10, 225x8, 275x8
    leg press 540x12, 630x8, 680x6, 680x6
    stiff leg deadlift 135x15, 225x10, 225x8
    lying leg curl 110x12, 120x10, and then a dropset with 130x6 and 100x6
    standing calf raise 280x15, 300x15, 300x15
    Then it was onto the bike for another 20 minutes of cardio.

    As always suggestions and comments welcome. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pags
    O.k. got the clen yesterday around noon and I have to say thanks to lion for the incredibly fast shipping. I ordered it Tuesday night it shipped Wednesday and was in my hands on Thursday...****ing awesome.

    I started taking it this morning all 60mcg at once and it had me pretty wired. About 20 minutes after I took it I hit the gym for 25 minutes of cardio.

    I'm know my diet still needs work but hopefully I'm on the right track. Here it is:

    meal 1: (30 mins after cardio) 1 cup oatmeal with splenda and cinnamon and 2 scoops nitro tech

    meals 2,3 and 4: chicken breast and an ounce of dry roasted peanuts

    meal 5 immediately after workout:2 scoops nitro tech

    meal 6: chicken breast, 1 cup pasta, 1/2 cup sauce

    meal 7: 2 scoops casein protein

    Now for the workout:

    squats 135x12, 185x10, 225x8, 275x8
    leg press 540x12, 630x8, 680x6, 680x6
    stiff leg deadlift 135x15, 225x10, 225x8
    lying leg curl 110x12, 120x10, and then a dropset with 130x6 and 100x6
    standing calf raise 280x15, 300x15, 300x15
    Then it was onto the bike for another 20 minutes of cardio.

    As always suggestions and comments welcome. Thanks.
    You have to find out what works for you, but IMHO you should eat some sweet potatoes, or brown rice, or something with your chicken and peanuts. Also, you can try almonds, they have slightly more fiber and less carbs than peanuts.

    I use calorieking.com to track everthing I eat. you might liek it

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    Thanks for the advice prodigal. I've been mixing it up a little bit with the diet sometimes instead of the peanuts I'll eat the chicken on a slice of whole wheat or a few slices of cheese. My pwo meal I've been changing up just for variety with exactly what you suggested a sweet potato or 1/2 cup of brown rice and lean steak. I've reduced the servings of protein powder to 1 right after my morning cardio, 1 after my workout, and the casein right before bed. Seems to be coming together nicely. It's been 5 days and I'm down to 225. I know a lot of it is water weight (I was pissing like a racehorse the first 2 days I was on the clen , not sure if it was because of the clen or because I stopped the creatine.) And even with dropping the weight I haven't noticed any decrease in strength which is something I was pretty nervous about. So alls good so far. Can't wait for Thursday to take some more pics and see if there is a noticeable difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pags
    Thanks for the advice prodigal. I've been mixing it up a little bit with the diet sometimes instead of the peanuts I'll eat the chicken on a slice of whole wheat or a few slices of cheese. My pwo meal I've been changing up just for variety with exactly what you suggested a sweet potato or 1/2 cup of brown rice and lean steak. I've reduced the servings of protein powder to 1 right after my morning cardio, 1 after my workout, and the casein right before bed. Seems to be coming together nicely. It's been 5 days and I'm down to 225. I know a lot of it is water weight (I was pissing like a racehorse the first 2 days I was on the clen, not sure if it was because of the clen or because I stopped the creatine.) And even with dropping the weight I haven't noticed any decrease in strength which is something I was pretty nervous about. So alls good so far. Can't wait for Thursday to take some more pics and see if there is a noticeable difference.
    NP

    here's a recipe for grilled sweet potatos Grilled Sweet Potato Home Fries

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    end of week 2

    Ok so the end of week 2 is here and I'm down to about 220. Strength is about the same as when I started. My waist is now 39 instead of 42. My double chin is now mostly gone. I'm also starting to notice some slight definition in my bi's. Bodyfat according to my calipers has gone from 24% to 22%. Anyway here are some pics.
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    hell yeah your dropping bf. definite progress noticeable.

    clen is crap. you are losing the weight due to your diet and training. the clen is doing very little. its the hard work. keep it up.

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    Thanks timtim. I honestly don't know how much the clen is helping physically but before I started taking it I was stuck at 235lbs for about a month. I did revamp my whole diet and bumped up the cardio when I did start taking it. So even if it isn't giving me huge results it's at least pushed me through a mental barrier I seem to have created.

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    Are you also changing the type of cardio up, your body adapts faster to cardio than weights.
    I see progress, keep it up and stay focused.
    I may order Clen , I am in my cutting stage jsut using stimerex-ES and droppnig 1-2 pounds of week with cardio on non training days 3 times on an empty stomach, and eights 5 days a week.
    Keep taking photos, those are the best self motivators.

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    looking good

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    great job man keep it up

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