my before pics

**rockSTAR_xo** · 09-04-2008, 08:31 PM

age: 20
weight: 151
height: 5'8.5"
bf%: idk
diet summary/ #meals one day:
#1- oatmeal & protein shake
#2- sub or pita or fast food
#3- chicken w/ potato
#4- pasta or steak or nasty crab meal one8nine tries to cook

(i know my diet needs some work)

I'm starting 20mg Var a day and pyramiding Clen
it's a seven week cycle

critique is needed.

xoxo

**MuscleScience** · 09-04-2008, 08:33 PM

Looks good to me, Although in the first pic your nose is a little button like.....lol

**rockSTAR_xo** · 09-04-2008, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Looks good to me, Although in the first pic your nose is a little button like.....lol

lol isn't it cute??

oh one more pic:

xoxo

**MuscleScience** · 09-04-2008, 08:36 PM

Yes it is, Great calves too. Did you play Sports?

**BadBarbie** · 09-04-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Yes it is, Great calves too. Did you play Sports?

soccer.
and it's pesent tense, still does

**MuscleScience** · 09-04-2008, 08:48 PM

Sorry, but I thought so....lol

**rockSTAR_xo** · 09-04-2008, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by BadBarbie

soccer.
and it's pesent tense, still does

thank you for stalking me and knowing my lifestory

<3

**Panzerfaust** · 09-04-2008, 09:07 PM

I would like to see you clean the diet up and leave the Var and Clen alone...you are in good shape as it is now...a good diet and cardio will tighten you up and you would be irresistable.

This pic here shows me that you have alot to work with, looks real good too

I think a full body routine would work extremely good for you...you have good quads but we need to bring up the hamstrings to even that oput to give you good "legs" instead of good quads.

I'm serious, very nice already...simple diet and cardio..game over!

I think you would like this video...a routine like this is what i'm talking about for you. Very intense and keeping everything tight..

http://thefitshow.tv/index.php?optio...son3&Itemid=71

**Phate** · 09-04-2008, 10:23 PM

Good base to build from, so lets start building

first thing, post what you eat tomorrow in the diet forum and i'll go over it and critique it

second thing, since you are a soccer player, your lower body is going to be your strong point and your upper body your weak point, so special consideration should be given to designing workouts that stress it's development(that's if you want your upper body to catch up, some people, especially athletes, like having one part dominant, thats your call)

post your training routine as well so we can look at it

**Garbanzo Dude** · 09-04-2008, 11:29 PM

Find an expert of dead lifts.....you have great base....dead lifts are great for girls they will get you in great shape

**TbolzNdbols** · 09-04-2008, 11:34 PM

Do not take var, there is no need what so ever for it. Just cardio and fix your diet

**ghettoboyd** · 09-05-2008, 07:52 AM

i know your in good hands with badbarbie and 189 so i say go for it if thats what you want.do i thinck you need it? no, but if you r gonna do it eat clean. goodluck

**Reed** · 09-05-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by TbolzNdbols

Do not take var, there is no need what so ever for it. Just cardio and fix your diet

Agreed 100%.

**Dukkit** · 09-05-2008, 12:52 PM

i second... uh everyones opinion so far.

**DSM4Life** · 09-05-2008, 09:21 PM

There are cloths hanging out of your dresser.

**Panzerfaust** · 09-05-2008, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

There are cloths hanging out of your dresser.

**FallenWyvern** · 09-06-2008, 12:27 AM

Do you want pic critique or diet?

**BadBarbie** · 09-06-2008, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

There are cloths hanging out of your dresser.

Because it's mine and one8nine's dresser and we all know how clean our room is.

**natureboy** · 09-06-2008, 03:41 PM

You look good to me, I think you have a good body overall! There could be some great things done with that body.

**natureboy** · 09-06-2008, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

There are cloths hanging out of your dresser.

What dresser? I looked 3 times, never seen a dresser!

**inky-e** · 09-06-2008, 05:23 PM

You don't need gear dear. Diet and more intense training will get you where you want to go.

**FallenWyvern** · 09-06-2008, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by inky-e

You don't need gear dear. Diet and more intense training will get you where you want to go.

What he said.

Diet is everything. You need to eat more often and much cleaner.

I have a real problem with the widened steroid jaw that women get sometimes.

**MuscleScience** · 09-06-2008, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by FallenWyvern

What he said.

Diet is everything. You need to eat more often and much cleaner.

I have a real problem with the widened steroid jaw that women get sometimes.

I thought that was caused by HGH

**GT2** · 09-07-2008, 01:15 AM

IMO, women don't need gear. Unless you're a professional bodybuilder/figure girl, it is not necessary. As mentioned, you have a great base to work with. If you lowered your body fat through diet and cardio, and toned up your muscles with weights, you would look amazing. I guarantee you, if you stick to a clean diet/exercise program for 12 weeks (worst possible case), you will get the look you're after. Steroids are not a magic pill and should not be taken lightly. Good luck

**one8nine** · 09-07-2008, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Garbanzo Dude

Find an expert of dead lifts.....you have great base....dead lifts are great for girls they will get you in great shape

ive been powerlifting since i was 15ish and i live with her does that count

**bbuilder** · 09-07-2008, 12:40 PM

I'm going to echo what everyone else is saying. You DON'T need the gear. Gear is useless without training, and diet being PERFECT. Once you get those perfect, and you don't see any gains for a while, then think about it.

You are wasting your time, money, and potential side effects on gear right now, especially ORALS. You have a good base.........time to work.

**warchild** · 09-07-2008, 12:52 PM

more diet and cardio...less late night partying and fast food. gear is for boys

**bmf2** · 09-07-2008, 09:04 PM

Can you please post your training routine and lets see where your at right now with training and diet help you can avoid alot of sides you may not be ready for...

what are your goals if just to tighten up... grl just a few weeks on a steady training and good diet will take care of all you need...

You really are in no way ready for a cycle... and certainly not one with those high doses... anavar at 5mg a day for the first 2 weeks is plenty for any woman and bump it up only after 2 weeks and knowing that you had no sides... to 10 mg a day for 8 to 16 weeks...

~bmf2

**Stoneco|d** · 09-07-2008, 09:05 PM

Looking good girl, imo girls shouldn't need gear but it's your choice. If you want to use gear, use it safely.

**RuhlFreak55** · 09-08-2008, 09:25 AM

IMO you look awesome.....and as i put in the other thread about girlz and gear no one here has any right telling you you shouldn't use.....by doing that they're just projecting on you that they don't think girlz need to be muscular or whatever....if done right it's fine as you well know from badbarbie