First Cycle Test E/Winny/Clen

**RockyX** · 08-17-2007, 03:31 PM

Okay guys...I am currently on week 11 of a 12 week cycle. I was going to hold off posting pics and stuff for another week, but couldn't wait....some history... this is my first cycle I am running Test E, Winny, and Clen . I have always been in pretty good shape but in March I tore my ACL and just got fat from sitting around (reference picture 1). The second picture is today, 11 weeks into cycle. I still plan on taking pictures next week (hopefully shaved) and a couple weeks after that. I want to puke looking at me original pictures. In the first picture I am 225 lbs. in the second picture I am 223 lbs. Here are my results measurement wise thus far.

Week 1:
Chest: 46.5"
Waist: 41"
Arms: 17"

Week 11:
Chest: 47"
Waist: 32"
Arms: 18"

I'm probably still holding onto water, and am more than positive I've got some extra skin right now from the almost 10 inches I've lost off of my waist. That injury really kicked my ass. I am very excited in that my goal (being 5'8") has always been to be a lean 210. Right now I am 225 lbs. and I am beginning to see that that goal may actually be achievable one day with alot of work...

**Lexed** · 08-17-2007, 03:37 PM

very nice bro gotta work on those love handles though

**RockyX** · 08-17-2007, 03:45 PM

yeah bro...been tryin...I got so damn big that I got stretch marks there...thinking alot of that is extra skin and am hoping it will suck back in lol

**manwitplans** · 08-17-2007, 04:40 PM

Well the pose is a little different, but..
When you put the pictures side by side, you`ve made some sick progress (nonetheless the pictures seems to give you a little more muscle view-wize).

The arms seems much bigger, and the front delts seems to have grown inzanely, aswell as the lateral delts, and chest has grown a little bit, and neck seems bigger. Booh-yah!

And yeah, clean up your diet, begin cardio, jump on another cycle when your ready (this one beeing a cutting cycle) you will look ****ing amazing once you shred yourself man!

**gimmewings** · 08-17-2007, 05:18 PM

lookin good. keep that diet clean!!

**Geeezer** · 08-17-2007, 07:50 PM

Good job,Keep up the good work...

**RockyX** · 08-17-2007, 08:03 PM

yeah I kinda decided this time to really make a life style change, rather than eating clean for 6 months and eating like crap for 6 months....I need to just commit...thanks for the feedback

**crazyhorse666** · 08-18-2007, 03:44 AM

you are looking awsome man keep up the good work!

**RockyX** · 08-18-2007, 09:29 AM

thanks bro...I'm kinda dissapointed that the cycles over already, I'm planning on taking 12 weeks off and maybe running Tren E, Test E, and Winny around the beginning of next year..

**bigjamie** · 08-18-2007, 11:10 PM

Nice transformation man keep up the hard work

**RockyX** · 08-18-2007, 11:41 PM

Thanks bro....I kept this spreadsheet with weekly measurements and weight and maxes on certain lifts and stuff that I had planned on posting, and just realized the board doesn't allow excel attachments.......nice

**thetank** · 08-19-2007, 06:47 AM

goddamn man..i remember your picsfrom years and years ago...that cycle made you blow up brotha good job, crazy, crazy difference..youve gotta be pumped about those results..dont worry about the love handles your waist will be as trim as it was before when you had cut. congrats on gettin re-dedicated and again props on the progress
peace
tank

**RockyX** · 08-19-2007, 10:19 AM

Thanks bro, yeah its good to see some familiar faces man...I do feel like I've come a long way...next thing is just to figure out where to go from here, I'm guessing I have to readjust my diet a bit to fight the catabolism that will come after I end the cycle next week and re-vamp my workouts and stuff...

**RockyX** · 08-20-2007, 09:35 AM

Maxed out on bench today, thus far my max went from 315 week 1 to 400 week 11. Nice! But I'm guessing after the cycle I'm going to have to tone down workout frequency/intensity? I want to avoid as catabolism as much as possible, any advice?

**eacman65** · 08-20-2007, 10:05 AM

Great progress thus far. When ur shredded ur gonna lok great

**RockyX** · 08-20-2007, 10:28 AM

Is it a bad idea to continue with a cutting diet/regimine after the cycle ends? Is that risking losing most of what you've gained?

**eacman65** · 08-20-2007, 01:31 PM

I think anytime you cut your gona lose a little muscle and some strength, but if your diet and training are on point when you cut you should lose mostly bf/water. Not to mention I think that when you cut that your going to appear bigger anyhow. Personally I would cut off that unwanted fat b4 I tried to go bigger.

**RockyX** · 08-21-2007, 09:22 PM

I took my last shot on Sunday. And end the Winny in about a week to start PCT. A couple of things I have learned from this..my first cycle.

1.) 25 gauge needles are very shitty at drawing up any kind of oil based substance lol. It literally took 6-7 minutes just to draw up 1 ml.

2.) Massive gains in the arms and lats (over an inch in the arms) in 12 weeks means massive stretch marks. I've got stretch marks from armpit to elbow now. Lightened up a good deal though.

3.)Although I didn't have any other noticeable side effects I did notice that you can get pimples on this stuff where you never thought you'd get pimples, but most of mine showed up on my upper forearm and shoulders.

4.) Injecting is relatively painless. I always expected it to be bad, and cringed at the thought of it, but (with the exception of 1 time), I really never felt it.

5.) When people say you get good pumps...they mean it. There were shoulder workouts where I almost fell over because the pump was so intense.

And a whole slew of other things. I like the long esters simply because I like the idea of not having ed injections, so any future cycles I do will more that likely be w/ long esters. From here, I have a cruise next week which I will eat WHATEVER I WANT. I will come back, raise calories substantially but still continue to eat clean and do cardio. Hoping to cut up and look like some of you big bastards on here.

**muscle_20** · 08-22-2007, 09:26 AM

At about 190lb you will look superb, you have some really nice quality muscle there!

**RockyX** · 08-22-2007, 11:55 AM

thanks bro!

**audis4** · 08-22-2007, 02:19 PM

don't be discouraged about your cycle ending, your looking way good man!
Just start planning your next cycle!

**anonymous_124** · 11-05-2007, 05:41 PM

Nice work man.You look really good.
I see you're concerned with PCT, and so am I. I've been doing a lot of reading and some of it is so overwhelming I can't put it all together yet.
Where did you get your cycle? Maybe you could PM me if it's an online store or something.

p.s. this is my first post!
hah.

**number twelve** · 11-05-2007, 09:33 PM

great work!

**Brent_G** · 11-05-2007, 11:24 PM

Looking good man. You def building a great base.

**moush** · 11-06-2007, 11:37 AM

im running the same cycle right now! Except instead of clen im using T3 and albuterol the last 2 weeks prior to PCT with the winnie. im running 750 mg Test E and 75-100mg Ed of Winnie and 50 mcg T3 (may up it to max 75 but im gonna stay at 50 for a while and see). im at 205 right now at about 10% bf. Ill cut down to 6% like this summer but instead of being 185 ill be 205-210 at 6%

**SnaX** · 11-06-2007, 06:30 PM

There is some change. You should have done this naturally.
Gear was not a good idea or helped you any more than a better diet and intense training.
I'm not the bashing type; I feel you should have dieted down to a better weight before using aas because there is no race to use gear.. and in my opinion you were NOT ready.

You have slimmed down, so I will commend you for that.
Good luck to you bro!

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 11-06-2007, 11:28 PM

Def see some big changes...congrats on that!

Now you just have to work on losing that last few stubborn pounds of fat...diet and cardio will be key... and your dream should be a reality

cheers

**im83931** · 01-09-2008, 12:55 AM

I know this thread is over a month old but can you tell me what your cycle looked like? Days and doseages.

**RockyX** · 01-10-2008, 11:33 AM

Test E: 500mg/wk 1-12
Winny: 50mg ed 1-4 9-12
Clen : 120mg ed 3 weeks on 3 weeks off

Hope that helped

**im83931** · 01-11-2008, 01:53 PM

It did
thanks man

**inky-e** · 01-14-2008, 01:39 PM

nice progress brother,i don't think you'll have a problem with loose skin,keep it up and you'll reach your goal!

**Gardener** · 01-28-2008, 03:27 PM

Nice job my friend. Keep on dietin

**m14rsh** · 01-31-2008, 04:49 AM

you have a good build, reduce BF and you will look quality

**hobbs9963** · 01-31-2008, 09:38 PM

Lookin good bro. Thick.

**one8nine** · 02-06-2008, 12:22 AM

holy shit talk about some focking progress good job man, at that rate youll meet your goals in no time keep your head up

**mr razmes** · 04-08-2008, 06:24 AM

i like it can i have an exact run down of cycle how many jabs per week how many mill of each ie monday 2ml wensday 3ml im new to this but u look good man.