5 Months natural cut progress pics

[Anubi555]

gbrice, t-gunz,. from ur avy pics, assuming they r the most recent "nice new one BTW gbrice", .u guys r already in a way better shape than when i started this thing,. i dunno if its a bad or good thing,. it makes it easier,. cuz u have much less fat to lose,. on the other hand,. ur bodies " i think" just some how adapted to a some how better nutrition, and physical activities than mine when i started,. in other words,. the shock i gave to my body after so many years of junk,.and so lazy life style, made a change that quicly possible,. but at the end change is a change,. no matter of the rate,. good luck to you guys,. and plz keep us updated,.hopefully u both keep ur throats intact

[Anubi555]

wow, this thread is AMAZING. great job man. your am cardio, would that be continuous steady state or intervals, what kind of intensity would it be at? this is the best thread ive read on here. great great job.

thank you for the nice words bro,.my cardio is just steady running for 10km/day, takes me exactly an hour "+/- 2 minutes",. when i first started wasn't for sure capable of doing it,. 1st week,. was 30 minutes,. then 40,. 50,. last 4-6 weeks, i achieved my personal goal of being able to do the hour steady run,.its not even physically a challenge anymore,.just boring sometimes, thats why i do it on the road, around the block,. not a treadmill

OP- Origional poster

and OP
Great work man..

you went from looking like an out of shape 50 year old to a 30 year old in shape person.
I mean that as a bbig compliment

your a inspiration...absolutely incredible results...skin is paper thin in you last shots....you just inspired me to eat a salad.

thank you guys very much,. i've gained lots of knowledge, inspiration from this forum,. nothing would make me feel happier than contributing back to such an amazing community.

Gr8 work m8

Seriously amazing in tht time frame

Just dont take the AAS advise on offer LOL

thx bro, but what advise r u referring to?, i didn't get much regarding AAS, at least not as much as i hoped for ,.. i mean,. i didn't actually ask for one about HOW to cycle,. my concern was WHEN to,. or should I at all, u know what i mean?, i know"in a level" what would i do, if i decided a cycle.

MIND BLOWING. Awesome job.

thank you

This is absolutely amazing! I hope you don't mind but I am going to steal your diet and workout routine, Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!

i don't mind at all,. actually it would make me so happy,. if i could help even further in anyway just lemme know,.

[gbrice75]

gbrice, t-gunz,. from ur avy pics, assuming they r the most recent "nice new one BTW gbrice", .u guys r already in a way better shape than when i started this thing,. i dunno if its a bad or good thing,. it makes it easier,. cuz u have much less fat to lose,. on the other hand,. ur bodies " i think" just some how adapted to a some how better nutrition, and physical activities than mine when i started,. in other words,. the shock i gave to my body after so many years of junk,.and so lazy life style, made a change that quicly possible,. but at the end change is a change,. no matter of the rate,. good luck to you guys,. and plz keep us updated,.hopefully u both keep ur throats intact

Haha, thank you brotha!

[cue_artist]

Great work bro definetly an in inspiration !

[baseline_9]

There was some bad Deca only advise but dnt worrie too much about it

You will know 'When' ur ready to cycle because you can answer all ur own questions pretty much

Physically you are ready IMO

However you clearly have some freaky geneics for BB or atleast fat loss, try and gain naturally first

U need to know how to gain natty b4 u go on gear or u will loose ur gains


When ur ready to cycle make sure ur PCT is bang on, follow all of swifto's PCT advise in the PCT section in his Q and A thread.

It shouls be a Test only cycle, with HCG run throughout IMO

Make ur sure u remember this and dont be irresponsible like so many others are

[Anubi555]

thank you cue artist
baseline: thx for the cycle advise,.i needed it to hold my horses a lil bit,. i already decided to wait for at least 3 monthes,.and see how will i do naturally, but got a lil hesitant some times, now i think its kinda a must to wait

[gladmax]

wow Dude you the man good job

[cerealkiller326]

Anubi555, nice job dude! Came from the same boat you were in and its tough to completely change your lifestyle and diet. Much respect for you, especially at your age. Now that your lean as fvck this is where its fun to put on mass and strength. Good luck with your cycle dude.

Deff try natural gain at first, I know a few people at the gym who cycle and don't gain much only because they still have that "trying to loose weight/stay lean" mentality. Patience is key, awesome job!

[Anubi555]

thx glad max.

Thx alot cerelkiller326,.specially for the cycling advise,. yeah i decided to take the natural route for a while at first and see how it goes,. i feel i can gain alot in a very short period of time,. it actually SCARES me,. the last week was off,. i had a live board trip, which i had completely no control over my food,. i was scared, upset, and disappointed as hell, i couldn't even believe its possible,. i gained around 6 kilos in a fvcking week "13lb"!!!
I couldn't be happier when i got back,. did my cardio,. cut completely the carbs for one day, then back it up to normal "around 150-200 gm/day",. i lost almost 4-5 kilos in 4 days,. so i think it was mostly water due to H.U.G.E amount of carbs i consumed!,. so yeah in a week or two,. i'll start a very slow bulking, and see how it goes from there,. but i am just waiting ATM to get my BF% as it was b4 this darn trip"despite how fun it was, but i lost lots of definition "

[grim45]

Wow man just amazing. These are the type of post that are gonna keep me on track man. You did a amazing job and it takes alot of heart/discipline to do that. Just hope I can see simliar results in the future. Again good job.

[Anubi555]

thx grim,. i've gained alot of knowledge and inspiration from this board,. glad i could pay anything back in return to its members.
i should be starting a clean bulk after xmas,. so i hope i'll have some good progress to post as well

[nk92mi]

congrats on your accomplishment. your transformation is amazing and it inspires all to get after it.

[nk92mi]

oh and i would say you are at around 10%. u are definitely under 12.

[tbody66]

Deca -Durabolin
(Nandrolone Decanoate)
Deca - Durabolin ("Deca") is actually the brand name for Organon´s version of the compound Nandrolone Decanoate. This is a 19-Nor compound (some would say that it is the 19-nor compound), and as such, it shares basically the same characteristics with all of them. One thing unique to Deca, above nearly all steroids , is the mystique it has had for the last quarter of a century. On a personal level, I´ve included Deca in cycles at doses ranging from 100mgs/week to 2,000mgs per week. Suffice to say, I have my fair share of experience with this compound. This drug was regarded very highly by Dan Duchaine in his Underground Steroid Handbooks as well as many of his later writings. For many, this was and is the final word on Deca. Let´s delve into some of the reasons that Deca´s mystique may be well deserved.

First of all, Deca (and Nandrolone in general) doesn´t produce many estrogenic or androgenic side effects. This is because Deca has a very low rate of aromatization (conversion to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme), roughly equal to 20% the rate of Testosterone.

Also, I´ve read many places that Deca stores water in connective tissue, thus alleviating joint pain. I have no idea what "storing water in the joints" means. I have no idea how to really quantify that statement, or where it started. However, in one study of postmenapusal women, Deca impoved collagen synthesis (1), and in another study deca increased bone mineral content. (2)Both of these studies used VERY low doses, which were far too low to promote muscle growth. In my estimation, based on these 2 studies, an athlete attempting to use Deca only for these two effects (increasing bone mineral content and collagen synthesis) should be using 100mgs of deca every week. That´s actually a higher dose than those two studies used successfully. Even at ½ of this dose, in HIV+ patients who have experienced significant wasting, a 100mg/E2W (every 2 weeks) injection of Deca resulted in a "significant increase in weight" (5). I´d never recommend that low of a dose for an athlete, but it´s evidence of Deca´s strong anabolic properties. Deca is a very nice anabolic, causing nice (albeit slow) gains in quality muscle. This could be due to its moderately strong binding to the Androgen Receptor, or its many positive non-Androgen-Receptor mediated effects. One such effect is nitrogen retention, which is a major factor in muscle growth and lean mass gains; in one study, with low-doses (65 mg/week) and high-doses of Deca (200 mg/week), both low-doses and high-doses resulted in significant nitrogen retention (33-52 g nitrogen/14 days, representing gains of 0.5 to 0.9 kg lean tissue/week), and body weight increased by 4.9 +/- 1.2 kg, including 3.1 +/- 0.5 kg lean body mass, and treadmill exercise performance (cardiovascular fitness) also improved (7). Need I say that the higher doses in this study produced more gains? Steroid.com members who have posted their results with deca confirm this in many posts and threads, with their average reccomendation being to take 400-600mgs/week for muscle gain. I have to agree.

Deca also has a very long active life. We can see from the chart below that a 100mg shot Deca (represented by the circles) produced relatively active and stable plasma nandrolone levels until day almost 10, hence once a week shots are all that´s necessary for stable levels of nandrolond decanoate (as a side note, the nandrolone phenylpropionate used in this study was active, and only experienced a severe drop off around day 5, shooting NPP every 4th day is the way to go). You´ll also note that higher blood plasma levels of Nandrolone are found with Gluteal injections as opposed to Deltoid injections (this is true for all oil-based steroids, I suspect).



In another study of HIV+ men (6) we can see that deca ( 200mgs on week 1, 400 on week 2 and 600mgs for weeks 3-12) caused NO negative side effects in total or LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, or insulin sensitivity and there was a reduction of HDL cholesterol(8-10 points) in both groups. Also, in most studies with HIV+ subjects, deca also improved immune function.


So what do we know so far about this compound? So far, we know that Deca is a very safe drug for long term use, will help with joint problems, could improve immune function, and is highly (!) anabolic, and not very androgenic.
Okay, the above is cut and pasted from the front page of this website. I was 38 years old when I did my first cycle. What I know about any drug is you get your best results from the first use and then you have to use more and more to get the same results in the future. Allthough the author of this information absolutely recommended not taking it alone, I did and it accomplished all I wanted it to and more. I chose this because it is "mild" and you keep almost all of the gains. I had none of the reported side affects, no loss in sex drive or ability to get or maintain an erection, no acne. My joints felt great and little aches and pains vanished. I only had to take one shot a week, big plus IMO, and I continued to get results from the deca still being in my system for weeks after my last shot.

These are all the reasons I recommend Deca. I am certainly not going to go against the majority of knowledgable and experienced people and argue that it is better than any other choice, but I can promise you from personal experience it wasn't a "bad bad" idea in my case. I've taken a few cycles since and have always gotten positive gains and results from every cycle, part of which I believe is that I started slow and low. I understand that everyone is different, and there are lots of things that people say about other products that they love that I have used and my body absolutely rejected, EQ for example. Not everyone's body is the same, nor are their goals

[danielli]

great results man, congrats.

[Rodax]

Dude this is impressive, congrats on the progress. Personally I'm even more inspired, so thanks!

[JBarron]

Very awesome transformation OP, I must agree that fasted cardio in the AM is the way to go if you want to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. I wouldn't do it any other way.

[Anubi555]

great results man, congrats.

Dude this is impressive, congrats on the progress. Personally I'm even more inspired, so thanks!

Thx alot, this is one of the reasons why there is a progress pics section in here i believe, i was so much inspired myself with tons of progress threads, the least could be done is contributing back to the board.

Very awesome transformation OP, I must agree that fasted cardio in the AM is the way to go if you want to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. I wouldn't do it any other way.

Thank you, about burning fat AND building muscle at the same time,. i am not so sure about it, unless may be u r very beginner, or just making a come back,. personally i don't believe it could be done "naturally" if u r above beginner level,. after this xmas i am gonna start a clean bulk, keeping my AM fasted cardio"less intense tho", and see if i can gain few lbs, while reducing/keeping the same BF,. should update the progress here in couple of months and see how it went.

congrats on your accomplishment. your transformation is amazing and it inspires all to get after it.

thx,. inspires myself as well, i feel so guilty now when attempting to cheat, or skip a workout

[JBarron]

Thank you, about burning fat AND building muscle at the same time,. i am not so sure about it, unless may be u r very beginner, or just making a come back,. personally i don't believe it could be done "naturally" if u r above beginner level,. after this xmas i am gonna start a clean bulk, keeping my AM fasted cardio"less intense tho", and see if i can gain few lbs, while reducing/keeping the same BF,. should update the progress here in couple of months and see how it went.

At a beginner level it can be done for sure, like at the level you began with. However, I think utilizing fasted cardio along with a good carb cycling diet and heavy weight raining, building muscle and burning fat is still very possible naturally for a seasoned trainee, it may be a slower process then "unnaturally"

It's really all about tricking your metabolism and your body in intervals. I know I've had great success off cycle with doing fasted AM cardio, along with a high calorie high carb up diet for 4-5 days, then cut carbs heavily along with a slight calorie cut for 2-3 days, all while maintaining high protein.

However you gotta find what works best for you I suppose, good luck man!

[ghettoboyd]

amazing transformation bro....great job...in only 5 months natty, youve blown my mind man....

[Anubi555]

At a beginner level it can be done for sure, like at the level you began with. However, I think utilizing fasted cardio along with a good carb cycling diet and heavy weight raining, building muscle and burning fat is still very possible naturally for a seasoned trainee, it may be a slower process then "unnaturally"

It's really all about tricking your metabolism and your body in intervals. I know I've had great success off cycle with doing fasted AM cardio, along with a high calorie high carb up diet for 4-5 days, then cut carbs heavily along with a slight calorie cut for 2-3 days, all while maintaining high protein.

However you gotta find what works best for you I suppose, good luck man!

this is exactly what i have in mind,. keeping almost what i am doing regarding the cardio and workout,. and just get my cal. intake around 500 above TDEE , but i'd like to know more about ur experience with this carb cycling,. how did it go? how long did u go for it,. is there a change with the cardio/workout in high/low carb days?well,. any info about it would be appreciated

[Anubi555]

amazing transformation bro....great job...in only 5 months natty, youve blown my mind man....

thank you very much.

These are all the reasons I recommend Deca. I am certainly not going to go against the majority of knowledgable and experienced people and argue that it is better than any other choice, but I can promise you from personal experience it wasn't a "bad bad" idea in my case. I've taken a few cycles since and have always gotten positive gains and results from every cycle, part of which I believe is that I started slow and low. I understand that everyone is different, and there are lots of things that people say about other products that they love that I have used and my body absolutely rejected, EQ for example. Not everyone's body is the same, nor are their goals

I so much appreciate your concern bro,. agreeing that every one is different, even if the majority agreed on something, and just a few mentioned a possibility of another way to do it safer/easier,. logically i'd pick the longer route even if its not the fastest one, u know what i mean? anyway,. i think i'd wait on the gear for at least couple months to see how my body would react to bulking naturally 1st, best of luck to you bro with ur goals

[JBarron]

this is exactly what i have in mind,. keeping almost what i am doing regarding the cardio and workout,. and just get my cal. intake around 500 above TDEE , but i'd like to know more about ur experience with this carb cycling,. how did it go? how long did u go for it,. is there a change with the cardio/workout in high/low carb days?well,. any info about it would be appreciated

Shot you a pm

[tbody66]

Dude, you are going to make progress no matter what route you go or how you go about it, because you have shown you are willing to do whatever it takes.

The only thing I can ever do is add my $.02, and I've never been shy about doing that!

[Anubi555]

Shot you a pm

sorry i can not PM u back as i am one less short of 50 posts

[Anubi555]

ummm,.. i think i can now!

[amostofi1999]

gj for keepin it natty. much harder when u can get your juice from the pharmacy down the street