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    Red face A Lady New To All This: Needs GUIDE!

    Hi everyone!

    Thank you for checking up on me

    I'm into a bikini beach body type, lean feminine look (I like the look of Dilya Diaz and Laura Michelle Prestin). I've been with many different PTs over years - money down the drain. I follow websites and YouTubes, go to the gym 3-5 days a week for the last 7 months learning to lift, and always watch what I eat (I've been on Keto diet for 2 weeks now).

    I'm 40 years old
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    Early last month my body composition
    52.8kg
    22.1 muscle mass
    22.6 body fat
    0.383 ECW ratio
    1253 metabolic rate

    My best did in April
    54.4kg
    22.4 muscle mass
    23.2 fat mass
    0.387 ECW ratio
    1272 metabolic rate

    I'm not lean; I got some muscles but I've fat: skinny fat body type. I don't want to wait years to achieve my goal, I want the real changes. I've some PTs mentioned steroid to me. I've only heard about the side effects more than the benefits, so I didn't care to know about it then. I just have been recently searching and reading more about it (until I found this forum actually), but there're way too much informations I don't know where it end. I don't want to just jump into it because I've been dealing with chronic pain for over years, I used to take pain killers (Tramol 50mg-150mg) but I've already withdrawn over a year. I went to my doctor today to talk about this, he of course disagreed but he didn't mention anything related to my conditions - so I guess it's ok then. I'm glad I found this forum just before I decide to buy the legal steroids - knowing it is not steroid? It is illegal in Australia and I don't know where to buy except online...

    I don't know if I should purchase separately or a stack/set, don't know if I need all in a set? I only hear people talk about Var as it's milder steroid and better for female? I know and am prepared for the possible outcome, but I consider to start with a very low dose 2.5mg-5mg per day or 7mg, 4-8 weeks? I believe you can just stop taking as if PCT isn't required - and how to, if required? Sorry, I just haven't come across informations about how to start, or come off, or prepare to treat anything may related to the use of it e.g. liver, or mood etc.

    Mainly this thread would be just about how do I start or stop. Sorry for a long read!

    Thank you in advance for all replies xx better die sweet!

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    hi welcome to the forum...I would hold of on purchasing anything and maybe wait for one of the lady members to chime in as they will lead you in the right direction to meet your goals...the legal steroids are not steroids at all they are supplements, expensive ones at that...

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    Welcome,

    Pictures look good to me, keep it up. We have a diet and nutrition section that has tons of good information that can help you achieve your goals. If you like watching YouTube content, I would recommend checking out Evan Centopani. He is a professional bodybuilder but his videos are geared towards nutrition education. On top of that, he doesn't try to sell anything in his videos, doesn't do sponsor plugs despite working for Animal, and is very pro food, minimal supplements.

    If you want to learn more about Keto, check out Dom D'Agostino - he is one of the reasons Keto became very popular today and has dedicated his life on keto-related research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Welcome,

    Pictures look good to me, keep it up. We have a diet and nutrition section that has tons of good information that can help you achieve your goals. If you like watching YouTube content, I would recommend checking out Evan Centopani. He is a professional bodybuilder but his videos are geared towards nutrition education. On top of that, he doesn't try to sell anything in his videos, doesn't do sponsor plugs despite working for Animal, and is very pro food, minimal supplements.

    If you want to learn more about Keto, check out Dom D'Agostino - he is one of the reasons Keto became very popular today and has dedicated his life on keto-related research.

    Thank you for the infos - I will check them out.

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    Welcome! You have a very cute, feminine look. I'm sure your goals are attainable. Great advice from ghettoboyd and windex.
    Best wishes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Welcome! You have a very cute, feminine look. I'm sure your goals are attainable. Great advice from ghettoboyd and windex.
    Best wishes!
    So sweet of you, thank you!

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    Hey There,

    I have just read your thread and seen your pictures. From what I can see you have a great body to start Anavar . Already a gym goer youíve set yourself up nicely.

    I can however tell you that from my experience 10mg a day didnít do much if anything at all. I was on that for a week and couldnít feel the difference. Once I switched to 20mg per day so one 10mg tablet in the AM and one again late afternoon it began to kick in.

    Iím not on nor have I tried any sort of special diets so I canít really help you with that side of things. I can however tell you that seen as youíre looking to get lean I was the same and switched my training to more reps with lower weights to really get the muscle burning. I donít know if youíre already doing this?

    When I went to 30mg per day I went into what a few would refer to as Ďbeast modeí. I felt like I could work out for longer and at least twice a day. I had to stop myself from going to the gym sometimes to make sure I got those critical rest days in otherwise youíll burn out. When on 30mg a day I did notice a slightly hoarse voice. Kind of like when youíve had a sore throat and it goes a bit crokey. But I kind of liked it and it didnít bother me at all.

    Any more questions feel free to ask.

    I hope this has helped you so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsav View Post

    I can however tell you that from my experience 10mg a day didn’t do much if anything at all...

    When I went to 30mg per day I went into what a few would refer to as ‘beast mode’. I felt like I could work out for longer and at least twice a day.

    Tsav
    I agree on dosage. I just finished 16 weeks at 25mg/day. No hoarseness. No acne. No sides. Just gains. Didn't bother splitting my dose. Also, it takes a week or two to build up before you feel anything so don't give up if you're not instantly a beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    I agree on dosage. I just finished 16 weeks at 25mg/day. No hoarseness. No acne. No sides. Just gains. Didn't bother splitting my dose. Also, it takes a week or two to build up before you feel anything so don't give up if you're not instantly a beast
    100% agree with PeanutbutterDC, it takes at least a week for Anavar to really get into your system so donít feel disheartened if after a few days of taking it your not feeling any different. It will come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsav View Post
    Hey There,

    I have just read your thread and seen your pictures. From what I can see you have a great body to start Anavar . Already a gym goer you’ve set yourself up nicely.

    I can however tell you that from my experience 10mg a day didn’t do much if anything at all. I was on that for a week and couldn’t feel the difference. Once I switched to 20mg per day so one 10mg tablet in the AM and one again late afternoon it began to kick in.

    I’m not on nor have I tried any sort of special diets so I can’t really help you with that side of things. I can however tell you that seen as you’re looking to get lean I was the same and switched my training to more reps with lower weights to really get the muscle burning. I don’t know if you’re already doing this?

    When I went to 30mg per day I went into what a few would refer to as ‘beast mode’. I felt like I could work out for longer and at least twice a day. I had to stop myself from going to the gym sometimes to make sure I got those critical rest days in otherwise you’ll burn out. When on 30mg a day I did notice a slightly hoarse voice. Kind of like when you’ve had a sore throat and it goes a bit crokey. But I kind of liked it and it didn’t bother me at all.

    Any more questions feel free to ask.

    I hope this has helped you so far.

    Tsav
    Hi Tsav,

    I do more weight 1-2 days each week, and super sets to failer on lower wieghts for the other days. I am new to gym too to be honest, I only used to do outdoor activities... PTs for outdoor activities and later just into gym. I've never been able to get rid of my belly fat, but I feel solid abs underneath. I just started looking into my diet and daily calories intake just less than a year - with minimal result.

    I'd probably start with 5mg for 2 weeks (am and pm split?) and see if required an adjustment of 10mg-25mg. Interesting about the "beast mode" hope it wouldn't keep me in the gym all day kidding. How did you handle this situation? Can you get enough sleep if this happen? I train night times, 2 scoops pre keeps me awake errr til morning!

    A slightly hoarse voice in weman I found sexy, but prefer not to experience myself...I know this is unavoidedly situation if I'm planing into this game.

    In your first cycle (first use ever), do you only on Anavar or do you need to get anything else prepared e.g. AI, PCT, HCG or if blood work required for oral form? I've read other thread mentining injectable is doing way better than oral form.

    I'm still doing as much research as I could to be prepared, hopefully all answers will come along. I just plan to start after I'm done with current diet plan and get my body to switch back to its normal diet... I'm quite excited about this actually, it will be a good change!

    Thank you for your help Tsav!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    I agree on dosage. I just finished 16 weeks at 25mg/day. No hoarseness. No acne. No sides. Just gains. Didn't bother splitting my dose. Also, it takes a week or two to build up before you feel anything so don't give up if you're not instantly a beast
    Thank you Peanutbutter!

    My first cycle plan for 4-8 weeks. It's good to hear you're not experiencing any sides but gains! I'm happy if it doesn't just change me so quickly. You look superb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsav View Post
    100% agree with PeanutbutterDC, it takes at least a week for Anavar to really get into your system so don’t feel disheartened if after a few days of taking it your not feeling any different. It will come!
    This is very good to know - thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannarrach View Post
    Hi Tsav,

    I do more weight 1-2 days each week, and super sets to failer on lower wieghts for the other days. I am new to gym too to be honest, I only used to do outdoor activities... PTs for outdoor activities and later just into gym. I've never been able to get rid of my belly fat, but I feel solid abs underneath. I just started looking into my diet and daily calories intake just less than a year - with minimal result.

    I'd probably start with 5mg for 2 weeks (am and pm split?) and see if required an adjustment of 10mg-25mg. Interesting about the "beast mode" hope it wouldn't keep me in the gym all day kidding. How did you handle this situation? Can you get enough sleep if this happen? I train night times, 2 scoops pre keeps me awake errr til morning!

    A slightly hoarse voice in weman I found sexy, but prefer not to experience myself...I know this is unavoidedly situation if I'm planing into this game.

    In your first cycle (first use ever), do you only on Anavar or do you need to get anything else prepared e.g. AI, PCT, HCG or if blood work required for oral form? I've read other thread mentining injectable is doing way better than oral?
    Ok soo..

    Firstly with regards to weights it depends exactly where you’re at with your body. Generally when someone first goes to the gym they go to lose weight, once the weight is back to a happy place the weight lifting should start in order to tone and shape the body. Amongst this, a healthy diet.

    Honestly, iv only ever calorie counted in order to gain weight as I was doing so much exercise I wasn’t eating enough. At one point I was on a diet of around 3000 calories a day which is quite high for a female and something I struggled with.

    I’ll also be honest 5-10mg a day is a waste of time and money. Obviously it’s entirely up to you but from my experience you won’t feel the benefits and as Anavar is quite pricey you won’t get your money’s worth.

    I didn’t get my bloods done or anything. Talking to males that had injected the stronger steroids yes some have but Anavar is really to mild to worry about that stuff.

    I also didn’t need to go on a PCT and was only drinking a sports BCAA drink during work outs and having my usual protein shake post work out. Believe it or not iv actually only ever had a pre work out drink once in my life and it wasn’t for me. Even being on a high dose of Anavar didn’t disturb my sleep at all, if anything I slept like a champion! Also bare in mind that exercise alone amps you up and iv always found it harder to sleep after a night work out. As a result I kept my work outs earlier in the day so I have plenty of wind down time before bed. So perhaps do that when you can.

    It didn’t make me edgy to get to the gym either so don’t worry about having ‘the shakes’ or anything like that it doesn’t have that kind of affect.

    And I’m with you, hoarse voice on a woman is very sexy and I kind of wish I was born with one. (Can you tell I’m gay haha). So I wasn’t complaining at the time.

    Tsav

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsav View Post
    Ok soo..

    Firstly with regards to weights it depends exactly where you’re at with your body. Generally when someone first goes to the gym they go to lose weight, once the weight is back to a happy place the weight lifting should start in order to tone and shape the body. Amongst this, a healthy diet.

    Honestly, iv only ever calorie counted in order to gain weight as I was doing so much exercise I wasn’t eating enough. At one point I was on a diet of around 3000 calories a day which is quite high for a female and something I struggled with.

    I’ll also be honest 5-10mg a day is a waste of time and money. Obviously it’s entirely up to you but from my experience you won’t feel the benefits and as Anavar is quite pricey you won’t get your money’s worth.

    I didn’t get my bloods done or anything. Talking to males that had injected the stronger steroids yes some have but Anavar is really to mild to worry about that stuff.

    I also didn’t need to go on a PCT and was only drinking a sports BCAA drink during work outs and having my usual protein shake post work out. Believe it or not iv actually only ever had a pre work out drink once in my life and it wasn’t for me. Even being on a high dose of Anavar didn’t disturb my sleep at all, if anything I slept like a champion! Also bare in mind that exercise alone amps you up and iv always found it harder to sleep after a night work out. As a result I kept my work outs earlier in the day so I have plenty of wind down time before bed. So perhaps do that when you can.

    It didn’t make me edgy to get to the gym either so don’t worry about having ‘the shakes’ or anything like that it doesn’t have that kind of affect.

    And I’m with you, hoarse voice on a woman is very sexy and I kind of wish I was born with one. (Can you tell I’m gay haha). So I wasn’t complaining at the time.

    Tsav


    Thanks for sharing these Tsav, I do appreciated your time. Now, I love the simplest and will pinn that I experience chronic pain (I'm not on any medications apart from sleeping pills some nights). My doctor didn't mention anything on the day I saw him as I repeat I will be using Anavar - I'm so excited, can't wait for a new me! I see your point, it takes some time to kick in - start with a lower dose with no result is a waste of money and time. My aim is to drop BF anything between 15-17% with some lean.

    Pre-workout provides crazy energy for me not BCAA.

    One last question. Does "brand" matter?
    I've heard some experience users mentioned, some brands can effect your voice quicker than some...different brands effect different sides quicker than others.

    Thanks again to help me prepare for my new experience!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannarrach View Post
    Thanks for sharing these Tsav, I do appreciated your time. Now, I love the simplest and will pinn that I experience chronic pain (I'm not on any medications apart from sleeping pills some nights). My doctor didn't mention anything on the day I saw him as I repeat I will be using Anavar - I'm so excited, can't wait for a new me! I see your point, it takes some time to kick in - start with a lower dose with no result is a waste of money and time. My aim is to drop BF anything between 15-17% with some lean.

    Pre-workout provides crazy energy for me not BCAA.

    One last question. Does "brand" matter?
    I've heard some experience users mentioned, some brands can effect your voice quicker than some...different brands effect different sides quicker than others.

    Thanks again to help me prepare for my new experience!
    Honestly you won’t need crazy energy once you’re on Anavar as the Anavar itself will provide that alone.

    In terms of brands I would know. As the substance is actually illegal in Australia I obtained it through a friend and didn’t have a choice on branding. Anavar is Anavar though and no matter what the brand technically they should all do the same thing. I would think so anyway.

    It’s a pleasure to help you. Something I wish I had before I started just to reduce any anxiety about taking it. I’ll be doing another course in the near future for sure.

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    Lucky, if you can easily get...and don't have to go through scams and purchasing is pain... Since, I know it's illegal, I am a bit nervous going through processes... oh well.

    Good luck for another course of yours.

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    be carefull OP you have made it clear you don't know how to get it so now there will most likely be some very helpful people so it will seem willing to take your money and leave you empty handed so dont sends funds to the first person that wants to "help you out" they may very well be scammers...

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    It's important to note Anavar will not help you lose fat. You will gain weight, hopefully mostly muscle, on Anavar. Unless you are very careful with your diet you will gain fat, too. Anavar is not a fat burner. It is an anabolic steroid .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannarrach View Post
    Lucky, if you can easily get...and don't have to go through scams and purchasing is pain... Since, I know it's illegal, I am a bit nervous going through processes... oh well.

    Good luck for another course of yours.
    Yes fortunately a very close friend of mine can get it so I just asked him. And FYI it cost me $250AU for 100 x 10mg tablets so you can use this as a guide if youíre not sure. I recommend donít transfer money over the net, youíll probably get ripped off. I would start talking to people at the gym personally, I reckon youíll be able to pick it up quite easily that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    be carefull OP you have made it clear you don't know how to get it so now there will most likely be some very helpful people so it will seem willing to take your money and leave you empty handed so dont sends funds to the first person that wants to "help you out" they may very well be scammers...
    Understood. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    It's important to note Anavar will not help you lose fat. You will gain weight, hopefully mostly muscle, on Anavar. Unless you are very careful with your diet you will gain fat, too. Anavar is not a fat burner. It is an anabolic steroid.
    Now, interesting...many other websites seem to claim Anavar is a fat burner, not for muscle gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsav View Post
    Yes fortunately a very close friend of mine can get it so I just asked him. And FYI it cost me $250AU for 100 x 10mg tablets so you can use this as a guide if you’re not sure. I recommend don’t transfer money over the net, you’ll probably get ripped off. I would start talking to people at the gym personally, I reckon you’ll be able to pick it up quite easily that way.
    Thanks Tsav, this gives me ideas of the trouble. I'll use BTC, some ppl suggested to use public computer haha really?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannarrach View Post
    Now, interesting...many other websites seem to claim Anavar is a fat burner, not for muscle gain.
    Haha... well they're wrong. Anavar is a steroid . Men will use it with testosterone on a cutting cycle, in a caloric deficit, to maintain muscle while losing fat , but the fat loss is *due to calorie deficit *

    I just finished a 16 week Anavar cycle and gained roughly 10 pounds (mostly lean)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Haha... well they're wrong. Anavar is a steroid . Men will use it with testosterone on a cutting cycle, in a caloric deficit, to maintain muscle while losing fat , but the fat loss is *due to calorie deficit *

    I just finished a 16 week Anavar cycle and gained roughly 10 pounds (mostly lean)
    Iím the same, I went from 71kg to 77kg in 6 weeks on my Anavar cycle. Which is what I wanted as I wanted to gain muscle.

    The difference is getting leaner as apposed to losing weight as such. If someone just wants to lose weight and get skinny all youíll be needing is regular cardio and a more disciplined diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Haha... well they're wrong. Anavar is a steroid . Men will use it with testosterone on a cutting cycle, in a caloric deficit, to maintain muscle while losing fat , but the fat loss is *due to calorie deficit *

    I just finished a 16 week Anavar cycle and gained roughly 10 pounds (mostly lean)
    Wow, 16 weeks! I'm impressed You look super powerful to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsav View Post
    I’m the same, I went from 71kg to 77kg in 6 weeks on my Anavar cycle. Which is what I wanted as I wanted to gain muscle.

    The difference is getting leaner as apposed to losing weight as such. If someone just wants to lose weight and get skinny all you’ll be needing is regular cardio and a more disciplined diet.
    Diet is no problem. Gain weight on muscle - I'm more than happy. You all make me excited to try it out...I wondered about my result!

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    Wow, 16 weeks! I'm impressed You look super powerful to me!
    Thanks. My avi is actually my "before" pic. Completely natural at that point. I'm up almost 10 pounds from that now. Also, I'm 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Thanks. My avi is actually my "before" pic. Completely natural at that point. I'm up almost 10 pounds from that now. Also, I'm 50.
    WOW!!! Oh my... I could imagine what you look now. I would be happy just your natural look very good motivation, at least I know I'm not too old for the game.

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    Think, I saw your pictures...look fantastic!

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