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    Bucklefitz is offline Junior Member
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    Newbie Needs Expert Advice

    Hey everyone, Im the Newb here and wanted to say hi. First off, I really like the information I've found here- everyone seems to be very knowledgeable and helpful. So thanks for helping to make a place like this so easy.

    Secondly, I need some help so let me tell you a little about myself and then give you my dilemma and any helpful advice would be GREATLY appreciated..

    Im 6'0'' - 175lbs - slender to medium build (leaning towards slender), and I just started my first cycle- I took my first shot of Enanthate 250 a few days ago. I think that maybe this is a low dosage because most of the beginner's cycles I've seem start with at least 400 mg.

    So this is where my problem begins..

    Along with the Test-E I also have winstrol , nolvadex , and clomid.

    I bought these to make my cycle as safe AND effective as possible but I have different people telling me different things on how and when to use them and I'm starting to think they're all full of shit!

    My Question: Can anyone please tell me the best possible way to take these products, or if I shouldn't take them at all, or if I need to add something else to the mix?

    Thanks a lot for your time and help guys (or girls).

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    Test only is a good start but diet is the most important part. at 175lbs you need to learn more about diet then anything else.

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    Thanks. Do you know of a site I can get the info on dieting I need? ..
    And what about the other products I have?

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    use ur nolva and clomid for ur pct like this.
    Nolva - 20/20/20/20
    Clomid - 50/50/25/25
    forget bout the winstrol its ur fist cycle save it for another cycle.

    as for the diet look here mate http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

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    There is a diet section on this site.

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    Thanks clockwork_killer. Could you explain the pct? Does it mean:
    Nolva - 20 per day for 4 weeks
    Clomid 50 per day for 2 weeks, then
    25 per day for then next 2
    ???

    When do I start the pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucklefitz View Post
    Thanks clockwork_killer. Could you explain the pct? Does it mean:
    Nolva - 20 per day for 4 weeks
    Clomid 50 per day for 2 weeks, then
    25 per day for then next 2
    ???

    When do I start the pct?
    Im not following your test dosage, how much are you running how often?

    I think the clomid and nolva would be overkill for your cycle. Nolva alone would suffice.

    The standard nolva PCT for a low dose test cycle would be:
    40mg/day 2weeks
    then
    20mg/day 2 weeks.

    When to start your PCT depends a little on the dosage you are taking. Post up then I can be a bit more accurate.


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    listen Bucklefitz clearly u ant done any research atall or u would atleast have an idea. most of the stuff u need info on is in the sticky wich have helped people time and time agen. remember this is ur body that ur messing bout with and if it goes wrong ur in shit street, so plz mate do sum more research. pct shud start 14days (2weeks) after ur last shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucklefitz View Post
    Thanks clockwork_killer. Could you explain the pct? Does it mean:
    Nolva - 20 per day for 4 weeks
    Clomid 50 per day for 2 weeks, then
    25 per day for then next 2
    ???

    When do I start the pct?
    oye u dnt have to but u can up the dose from 250mgs to 400mgs-500mgs. an tell me u gt sumfin on hand incase or gyno????

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    Hey SmittyTheOx, Im taking 1mL/250mgs Test-E every week. Thanks for helping me out

    Clockwork_killer, I have an idea- thats why I'm here. I've done plenty of research on other sites and I read a lot of what this site has but I wanted to know SPECIFICALLY what would be best for my particular cycle because its low.. and remember, I am a NEWB to all this.. Yea I have Nolvadex just in case and for the pct.

    Is upping the dose to 400mgs a better idea or will I see good results at 250mgs?

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    Hey clockwork_killer, I've been reading more and more about winny.. Why wouldn't I add it to my cycle? .. I have about 7 weeks worth. Do you think it would be more effective on a later, heavier cycle?

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    yo bucklefitz 400mg is a better idea mate you shud see a nice noticable difference with tht dose. right what are ur goals what do u want from this cycle? size?, coz winny is used for cutting so if u jus want size at the end of the day u wunt wna use winny, remeber u are aoowed to save thing jus coz u gt em u dnt have to use em. save the winny for another time.

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    I'm just gona put i off until I can get more and get my diet up to par. Thanks for all the help guys.

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    yerr thtas a good idea mate diet is a massive part of it oye what have u shot how much?? coz u might need pct?

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    One ml of test E 250.

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    so 1 shot at 250mg

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    id say jus stop tht int tht bad no need for pct. glad u made tht choice mate

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    ok thanks for the help..See you in a couple months

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    400mg of eth/week (done in 2 seperate 200mg injections) would be a better way to go.

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    I would do that but I dont have enough. Im just going to wait till later when I can get more. Thanks though

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