Hezbollah used U.N. as 'shield'

[kis55]

Interesting article that seems plausible to me. Bouncer, you have more experience with this than anyone, what are your thoughts?

Official: Hezbollah
used U.N. as 'shield'
Observer killed in strike wrote e-mail
contradicting accusation against Israel

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Posted: July 27, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern



© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


United Nations flag flies with Hezbollah banner at U.N. post (photo: Canadian Jewish News)
The United Nations post in Lebanon at the center of controversy over a deadly Israeli attack likely was being used as a "shield" by Hezbollah to fire rockets into the Jewish state, according to a former U.N. commander in Bosnia.

U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan has accused Israel of deliberately targeting the post where four officials of the world body were killed in an Israeli airstrike on the southern Lebanese village of El Khiam Tuesday night.

But retired Maj.-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie points to an e-mail by one of the observers killed in the attack that backs Israel's claim that it was targeting Hezbollah, reported the CanWest News Service of Canada.


The dead observer, Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, wrote an e-mail last week to the Canadian television network CTV that alluded to Hezbollah's tactics.


"What I can tell you is this, we have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.
"The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity."

MacKenzie said Hess-von Kruedener was indicating Israeli strikes were aimed at Hezbollah targets near the post, the Canadian news service reported.

"What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces)," he said.

McKenzie said this indicates Hezbollah purposely set itself up near the U.N. post, a tactic he observed in previous international missions. McKenzie was the first U.N. commander in Sarajevo during the Bosnia civil war, CanWest reported.

The U.N. has claimed there was no Hezbollah activity in the area of the strike.

From his U.N. post, however, Hess-von Kruedener wrote he had a view of the "Hezbollah static positions in and around our patrol Base."

"It appears that the lion's share of fighting between the IDF and Hezbollah has taken place in our area," he wrote, noting later it was too dangerous to venture out on patrols.

A senior U.N. official asked by CanWest about the e-mail denied the world body had been caught in a contradiction.

"At the time, there had been no Hezbollah activity reported in the area," he said. "So it was quite clear they were not going after other targets; that, for whatever reason, our position was being fired upon.

"Whether or not they thought they were going after something else, we don't know. The fact was, we told them where we were. They knew where we were. The position was clearly marked, and they pounded the hell out of us."


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[KAEW44]

Hezbollah firing at Israel = Permission to bomb arabs
Al-Qaeda trying to join in = Permission to Nuke arabs
Estabilishing a link between the two = Dodo birds meet arabs

[BOUNCER]

Hezbollah firing at Israel = Permission to bomb arabs
Al-Qaeda trying to join in = Permission to Nuke arabs
Estabilishing a link between the two = Dodo birds meet arabs

Replies like this don't help this forum to move forward.

As to the original post.

Yes, I've experience of this happening countless times. I've wrote about it here often enough. When the IDF killed 102 civilians in Qana in 1996 the Hezbollah were using the civilians as human shields. They were sheltering (the dead civilians) in a Fijian/Irish position.

The IDF asked the UN to stop the firing, representations were made to Hezbollah, but they continued to launch rockets from their position. The IDF had no option but to fire and some of the five 155mm arty rounds fell short killing the sheltering civilians.

We used to have it all the time. The Hzbollah and Amal would use our UN positions to shell Israel and Israeli positions in Lebanon. If we reported anything over the radio we risked drawing fire on ourselves.

I've seen them use a hospital as cover and also regularly used an orphanage in Tibnine village (scene of fighting at the moment) to lauch attacks.

[judge_dread]

Israelis attacked and killed the UN officials and that's a fact...I don't see why should I have to justify their actions

[RA]

The U.N. should be pulling there guys out anyway. They are useless in the current situation.

[Ufa]

Israel should warn civilians to get out and then carpet bomb.

[BajanBastard]

Reading your post made me cringe Bouncer. That is despicable.

[Logan13]

Hezbollah firing at Israel = Permission to bomb arabs
Al-Qaeda trying to join in = Permission to Nuke arabs
Estabilishing a link between the two = Dodo birds meet arabs

yes!!

[Logan13]

Replies like this don't help this forum to move forward.

As to the original post.

Yes, I've experience of this happening countless times. I've wrote about it here often enough. When the IDF killed 102 civilians in Qana in 1996 the Hezbollah were using the civilians as human shields. They were sheltering (the dead civilians) in a Fijian/Irish position.

The IDF asked the UN to stop the firing, representations were made to Hezbollah, but they continued to launch rockets from their position. The IDF had no option but to fire and some of the five 155mm arty rounds fell short killing the sheltering civilians.

We used to have it all the time. The Hzbollah and Amal would use our UN positions to shell Israel and Israeli positions in Lebanon. If we reported anything over the radio we risked drawing fire on ourselves.

I've seen them use a hospital as cover and also regularly used an orphanage in Tibnine village (scene of fighting at the moment) to lauch attacks.

What can be done to stop these tactics? And why does the world not realize this and condemn hezbollah for it?

[judge_dread]

I come from a country that treated well the Jews during the WW2 and many Jews still live here, apart from that I feel that the State of Israel are not in the right direction now

[3Vandoo]

OK, the uncle of a buddy is now KIA thanx to the IDF!

**** them!

[BOUNCER]

OK, the uncle of a buddy is now KIA thanx to the IDF!

**** them!

And you hold the IDF soley to blaim for the deaths of these guys?.

I hold them particially responsible, yes. But Hezbollah must shoulder the majority of the blaim by using a UN position as a shield.

Something to think about.

The IDF are fighting in Bint Jbail, a village I know very well. Its a resonable sized town, very small narrow streets. The IDF is taking casualties here, if they had absolutely no regard for human life they'd have levelled the town. The IDF would know Bint Jbail intimately too, they and their proxies the SLA were based for for some 23 yrs!. But instead their on the ground there fighting, why?.

[BOUNCER]

Israelis attacked and killed the UN officials and that's a fact...I don't see why should I have to justify their actions

No, they didn't. They attacked an Hezbollah rocket site and killed UN (OGL) observers.

I'm not justifying the actions of the IDF, just setting out the circumstances under which these tragedies happen.

[Rak_Ani]

No, they didn't. They attacked an Hezbollah rocket site and killed UN (OGL) observers.

I'm not justifying the actions of the IDF, just setting out the circumstances under which these tragedies happen.

Bouncer, you SHOULD be justifying the actions of the IDF. The IDF is doing it's job - taking action to protect Israelis.
So what is it about the IDF actions that you don't justify?

[Rak_Ani]

OK, the uncle of a buddy is now KIA thanx to the IDF!

**** them!

Wow. What can I say....

Hizballa picks a war with Israel, uses civilians to hide, causes deaths on both sides, holds the Lebenese government hostage and brings disaster onto the Lebenese people. But your friend's uncle is dead, so let's all blame the IDF.

If I remember correctly, you once mentioned you studied political science...am I right? Well, you know, with posts like this, your educational background really shows.

[Second Coming]

Replies like this don't help this forum to move forward.

As to the original post.

Yes, I've experience of this happening countless times. I've wrote about it here often enough. When the IDF killed 102 civilians in Qana in 1996 the Hezbollah were using the civilians as human shields. They were sheltering (the dead civilians) in a Fijian/Irish position.

The IDF asked the UN to stop the firing, representations were made to Hezbollah, but they continued to launch rockets from their position. The IDF had no option but to fire and some of the five 155mm arty rounds fell short killing the sheltering civilians.

We used to have it all the time. The Hzbollah and Amal would use our UN positions to shell Israel and Israeli positions in Lebanon. If we reported anything over the radio we risked drawing fire on ourselves.

I've seen them use a hospital as cover and also regularly used an orphanage in Tibnine village (scene of fighting at the moment) to lauch attacks.

Your a traitor just as I thought. Go celebrate the death of those people. Disgusting.

[Second Coming]

Wow. What can I say....

Hizballa picks a war with Israel, uses civilians to hide, causes deaths on both sides, holds the Lebenese government hostage and brings disaster onto the Lebenese people. But your friend's uncle is dead, so let's all blame the IDF.

If I remember correctly, you once mentioned you studied political science...am I right? Well, you know, with posts like this, your educational background really shows.

Zionist propaganda masters. You kill civilians, then say you did it to protect yourselves and the civilians.

What goes around comes around. The fact that your people have been getting kicked out of more than 900+ places in its history should tell you something.

Israel will get what is coming to it.

[Second Coming]

Future Israeli Military whores giving gifts to the Lebanse children.

[Second Coming]

Gifts recieved thank you.

[clomid222]

Hezbollah are nothing more than useless animals. They should all be killed.

The world would be a better place without those primates.

DEATH TO HEZBOLLAH. Send them all to Allah and let him deal with them.