Taliban?

[singern]

KABUL, Afghanistan — Suspected Taliban militants hanged a woman and her son from a tree after accusing them of spying for the government, The 70-year-old woman and her 30-year-old son were killed Monday in the village of Daigh.
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — Four Canadian soldiers were killed and 10 wounded Thursday in militant attacks and 21 Afghan civilians died in a suicide car bombing
The Taliban have stepped up attacks in southern Afghanistan this year. More than 900 people have died in violence since May,


Questions:

Is the Taliban making a comeback in Afghanistan?
Have the multinational force, and Afgan forces been too lax in allowing them to regroup, and rearm?

Discuss.....

[RA]

Wow, I thought they were scared up into the hills. Seems they are coming back out.

[BajanBastard]

Yes they are regrouping. The last great military offensive against them was what? Operation Anaconda?

[RA]

Who is running the pentagon? Are they forgetting we are at war there?

[BajanBastard]

War takes money and unfortunately the Army, Marines, etc are out of money.

[Kärnfysikern]

Who is running the pentagon? Are they forgetting we are at war there?

isnt NATO in charge of afghanistan nowdays? I though america handed over controll to NATO a few months ago?

[BajanBastard]

I guess here lies the problem then. j/k

isnt NATO in charge of afghanistan nowdays? I though america handed over controll to NATO a few months ago?

[singern]

isnt NATO in charge of afghanistan nowdays? I though america handed over controll to NATO a few months ago?

Yes they are, although Im not sure of the actual composition, or numbers. It may be that the Taliban fighters are testing the resolve of the NATO forces.

It's odd but if you look at Afghanistan and Iraq. In both cases if it were not for the terrorists and insurgents who are killing an average of 60 to 100 civilians per day, there would be thriving, functional democratic societies. There would be no need for foreign troops at all.

In short the terrorists are shooting themselves in the foot.

[RA]

Shyt, NATO, the inmates are running the asylum.

[Logan13]

isnt NATO in charge of afghanistan nowdays? I though america handed over controll to NATO a few months ago?

yes they did, go figure...............

[Red Ketchup]

Yes they are regrouping. The last great military offensive against them was what? Operation Anaconda?

Bro, they are not regrouping... they were never scared away... the US / NATO / coalition / whatever only controlled a few major towns... and cleared the taliban there... the rest of the country has remained "taliban land".

Problem is that the mainstream US media sort of didn't mention that... too busy in Irak I guess... and having Omasa roaming free surely doesn't help things...

Red

[BajanBastard]

Actually the U.S media does report accurately (well for the most part) on the situation in The ghan

The Taliban got their asses handed to them during the operations to route them out but they just run across the border. For the last 2-3 years they and the warlords have been 'controlling' things outside of the capital.

[collar]

america is taking care of afgahn.
and taliban were never gone, their leader was not dead yet .
so they were not finished yet.

[Red Ketchup]

Collar, I doubt that killing the talibans leader (Osama) will amount to anything... the taliban is set up to operate in independant cells.

Cut one of heads off the hydra, 2 grow in it's place.

Maybe there is a reason the US has chosen not to kill off osama.

Red

[Alex2]

Bro, they are not regrouping... they were never scared away... the US / NATO / coalition / whatever only controlled a few major towns... and cleared the taliban there... the rest of the country has remained "taliban land".

Problem is that the mainstream US media sort of didn't mention that... too busy in Irak I guess... and having Omasa roaming free surely doesn't help things...

Red

True. Only Kabul and few other places are under the USA/NATO control. The rest is ruled by Taliban.

[Alex2]

Collar, I doubt that killing the talibans leader (Osama) will amount to anything... the taliban is set up to operate in independant cells.

Cut one of heads off the hydra, 2 grow in it's place.

Maybe there is a reason the US has chosen not to kill off osama.

Red

I guess you meant "Mulla Omar". Osama is the leader of Al-qaeda and both are protected by very loyal tribal men.

[collar]

Collar, I doubt that killing the talibans leader (Osama) will amount to anything... the taliban is set up to operate in independant cells.

Cut one of heads off the hydra, 2 grow in it's place.

Maybe there is a reason the US has chosen not to kill off osama.

Red

his just the face mate who said he was the leader???

but honestly taliban are nothing anymore.

[Prada]

Bro, they are not regrouping... they were never scared away... the US / NATO / coalition / whatever only controlled a few major towns... and cleared the taliban there... the rest of the country has remained "taliban land".

Problem is that the mainstream US media sort of didn't mention that... too busy in Irak I guess... and having Omasa roaming free surely doesn't help things...

Red

Absolutely correct, besides Kabul the rest was and still is run by warloards. Common misconception that the wrath of Taliban is gone it is just diminished and they are laying low waiting for the opportune moment

[Pazienza]

The Taliban or Taliban like entities (Tribal Militias) still control most of Afghanistan. Just yesterday 4 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan and the mention of the most intense fighting since the war in Afganistan began. If we take our attention away from Afghanistan the Taliban or like minded elements will make a comeback.

[Logan13]

Just yesterday 4 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan and the mention of the most intense fighting since the war in Afganistan began.

And that makes you happy, doesn't it.......

[singern]

The real shame here is that I dont see anyone even mentioning the multitudes of Afghan citizens being bombed, and executed by these "freedom Fighters". Where is the outrage over the molestation of an entire country, which is finally enjoying some freedom.

why does nobody march in the streets or scream outrage over the deaths of civilians who just want to live in peace, and freedom.
But take a picture of a naked terrorist in prison and...............

[biglouie250]

how can we expect to attack iran and north korea if we cant handle afghanistan?

[singern]

how can we expect to attack iran and north korea if we cant handle afghanistan?

A fair question.
Im sure Iran and its conventional army will be a "one minute steak" as long as we dont try to occupy. I believe that the fight against gorilla's, terrorists, or insurgents as is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon there needs to be a complete overhaul of the tactical infrastructure, and weaponry arsenal. It just doesnt do any good to have powerful bombs, or missiles when the enemy can hide in a hospital, or other safe place.

[biglouie250]

could you imagine what would happen if we just destroyed the govt of iraq/iran/north korea and just left? lol wow that should be a reality show.

[Phreak101]

Survivor : Iraq

[biglouie250]

Survivor : Iraq

now we just need a host.....im thinking either joe rogan or mark summers.

[Phreak101]

now we just need a host.....im thinking either joe rogan or mark summers.

Nah too mainstream, I'd like to see R Lee Ermey do it (the drill sgt from Full metal Jacket).

Either him or that biatch from the weakest link.

[BgMc31]

We should have learned from the French, English, Germans, Russians, etc., no foreign country has ever been able to conqure/liberate Afghanistan. These local militias a battled hardened from thousands of years of fighting. If our real target was Osama, we would be all over Pakistan not Afghanistan. Whether they are better of with or w/o the taliban is open to speculation. As members of a democratic country, of course we want to believe these people are better off with our system of thinking, but if our system of thinking (democracy) is correct, why aren't these people or any other Islamic influenced country gasping this concept? The picture we paint would seem like paradise compared to their current conditions but these people (and the majority of Arab countries are of similar thought, including the muslim public) don't want any part of it. Why aren't we recognizing this?

[Kärnfysikern]

We should have learned from the French, English, Germans, Russians, etc., no foreign country has ever been able to conqure/liberate Afghanistan. These local militias a battled hardened from thousands of years of fighting. If our real target was Osama, we would be all over Pakistan not Afghanistan. Whether they are better of with or w/o the taliban is open to speculation. As members of a democratic country, of course we want to believe these people are better off with our system of thinking, but if our system of thinking (democracy) is correct, why aren't these people or any other Islamic influenced country gasping this concept? The picture we paint would seem like paradise compared to their current conditions but these people (and the majority of Arab countries are of similar thought, including the muslim public) don't want any part of it. Why aren't we recognizing this?

I think that is one of the major flaws in the reasoning behind the iraq war. Everyone assumed the population would embrace democracy smoothly. But history should tell us that people resent changes forced upon them even if it is changes for the better.

I sure dont want anyone to walk into my house and tell me how to run my life even if my life would become better if I do it his way. Chanse are I would beat his ass and throw him out.

[Phreak101]

Democracy > Fascism

Jumping Van Damme Spin Kicks > Democracy

[Pazienza]

And that makes you happy, doesn't it.......

Yeah, typical neocon nonsense. Hiding the number of dead servicemen does them a disservice. The neocons act like all is well even if things are chaotic. When someone happens say it, admit it, and move on from there. If things are going terrible, dont keep doing the same thing. Change it to better suite our needs at a particular time. Its a shame that people try to shove the number of dead US servicemen under a rug. It happens they did they patriotic job, and died in the process of serving their country. There is nothing wrong with mentioning the fact.

[biglouie250]

Nah too mainstream, I'd like to see R Lee Ermey do it (the drill sgt from Full metal Jacket).

Either him or that biatch from the weakest link.

r lee would be great, could go in another direction and get regis to do it. or jerry springer, he knows how to deal with nut jobs. "my final thought, these people are effing nuts"

[Logan13]

Yeah, typical neocon nonsense. Hiding the number of dead servicemen does them a disservice. The neocons act like all is well even if things are chaotic. When someone happens say it, admit it, and move on from there. If things are going terrible, dont keep doing the same thing. Change it to better suite our needs at a particular time. Its a shame that people try to shove the number of dead US servicemen under a rug. It happens they did they patriotic job, and died in the process of serving their country. There is nothing wrong with mentioning the fact.

Don't spin this in the direction that you actually give a shit about these fallen soldiers. Anything that hurts the US, helps your cause. Do you even know what a neocon is, or are you just regurgitating the dribble that you hear?

[Pazienza]

Don't spin this in the direction that you actually give a shit about these fallen soldiers. Anything that hurts the US, helps your cause. Do you even know what a neocon is, or are you just regurgitating the dribble that you hear?

Neocons represent foreign interests - TODAY - this "foreign influencer" is the Israeli state. And in some areas they represent the Saudi state.