Thread: Old news but jesus
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09-11-2006, 07:27 AM #1
Old news but jesus
Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=7591
1. The Communist Manifesto
2. Mein Kampf
3. Quotations from Chairman Mao
4. The Kinsey Report
5. Democracy and Education
6. Das Kapital
7. The Feminine Mystique
8. The Course of Positive Philosophy
9. Beyond Good and Evil
10. General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money
Honorable Mention
These books won votes from two or more judges:
The Population Bomb
by Paul Ehrlich
Score: 22
What Is To Be Done
by V.I. Lenin
Score: 20
Authoritarian Personality
by Theodor Adorno
Score: 19
On Liberty
by John Stuart Mill
Score: 18
Beyond Freedom and Dignity
by B.F. Skinner
Score: 18
Reflections on Violence
by Georges Sorel
Score: 18
The Promise of American Life
by Herbert Croly
Score: 17
The Origin of Species
by Charles Darwin
Score: 17
Madness and Civilization
by Michel Foucault
Score: 12
Soviet Communism: A New Civilization
by Sidney and Beatrice Webb
Score: 12
Coming of Age in Samoa
by Margaret Mead
Score: 11
Unsafe at Any Speed
by Ralph Nader
Score: 11
Second Sex
by Simone de Beauvoir
Score: 10
Prison Notebooks
by Antonio Gramsci
Score: 10
Silent Spring
by Rachel Carson
Score: 9
Wretched of the Earth
by Frantz Fanon
Score: 9
Introduction to Psychoanalysis
by Sigmund Freud
Score: 9
The Greening of America
by Charles Reich
Score: 9
The Limits to Growth
by Club of Rome
Score: 4
Descent of Man
by Charles Darwin
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09-11-2006, 07:33 AM #2
I dont think I have ever seen a wierder list.
1 I can agree with somewhat.
2. I cant think this book even had much of a impact either way. Since hitler would have been in charge book or not. No harm done after the war and no added harm done during the war.
3. probably junk
4. dont know about it.
5. One of the authors main aims was
"The central concept of John Dewey's view of education was that greater emphasis should be placed on the broadening of intellect and development of problem solving and critical thinking skills, rather than simply on the memorization of lessons."
I guess that is horrible. Kids in school thinking for themself. Ohh my gosh that cant happen.
6. probably junk.
7. I guess its bad to fool women into beliving they acctualy can have a life outside of caring for babies and cooking dinner?
8. Suggesting god isnt needed for moral behavior. Yeah what a horrible book We all know atheist are bad bad people.
9.
10. Correct me if Im wrong but didnt FDR pull america out of the depression? If he followed this authors book I wouldnt say it was harmfull.
I also found it assuming that
The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin
was in the honorable mentions list
Dont tell me this crap site is respresentative of conservative republican ideas over there??
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09-11-2006, 09:53 AM #3
Well it says most harmful during 19th and 20th centuries, I can see how most of those, which I am aware of, could have been potent literature at that time. Today they are impotent.
Actually Johan I would have to disagree about this one
3. Quotations from Chairman Mao. Ihavent read much but he was an influential person that had a stranglehold on his people in one of the most unique and daunting ways
4.The Kinsey Report I believe was one of the first in depth studies on male and human sexuality. In an era of taboo talking about sex and masturbation openly was frowned upon and look at the consequences of it today, you, as many other on this board, are a victims of this "disease"
Interesting, nonetheless, to see B.F Skinner, Darwin, Simone de Beauvoir, Freud and............. Ralph Nader? WTF?
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09-11-2006, 10:15 AM #4Originally Posted by Prada
I dont think mein kampf had much of a noticable impact either way.
I agree with the works by marx since it was a trigger for the atrocities in the soviet union and red china. But the big question is what would the revolution have looked like without it(would there have been one?). But it has made damage offcourse. I cant say I am suprised that a conservatie american site would list books by marx on the list though. But they didnt only give birth to the abominations in china and russia, it also inspired the kind of socialism that is in europe and canada today and I cant call that a negative thing.
The feminist book on the most harmfull list is just ridicilous, same with the "democracy and education" book. Seems like they dont want gender equality and freedom of thought in education. I havent read them offcourse but the wiki articles about them seem decent.
Claiming the one that discuss morality without god as one of the most harmfull is also ridicilous. Unless there is a whole lot in it I am not aware of.
Its only harmfull to christianity and religion, but not harmfull to society or individuals.
Listing 2 books of darwin in honorable mentions just show the people picking the books have a anti scientific and religious fanatic bias. Putting those books there is like putting einsteins 3 famous articles in a list of most dangerous. Ignorance.
I dont se why they would have put freuds book there either even though modern pschyology doesnt seem to use his belifes he still gave birth to pschycology. I guess they dont like us treating mentaly ill?
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09-11-2006, 10:35 AM #5
Ahhhhh! I didnt actually go to the link you posted but after seeing National Conservative Weekly, anne Coulter and conservative posted everywhere it all makes sense. Maybe they should have "influential" list rather then "dangerous" list. I agree some of them are absurd. John Maynard Keynes and Kinsey's literrature dangerous? Keynes theories are utilized today, dont be affraid to up govt spending in order to stimulate the economy even if it means a deficit. Maybe we had to be under the social context at that time to comprehend?
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09-11-2006, 11:00 AM #6
I'm correcting you Johan;)
FDR actually extended the depression. He also created the foundation of the American welfare state that will eventually cause the country to implode. FDR= Worst President Ever.
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09-11-2006, 11:03 AM #7Originally Posted by Grappler13
Can you expand on why you think it hurt america?
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09-11-2006, 11:26 AM #8
they forgot to add the bible and the koran
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09-11-2006, 12:45 PM #9Originally Posted by Grappler13
without FDR there is no SEC, no social security, no medicare, etc. FDR ensured that a great depression could never happen again. Over speculation of stock would never lead to another depression thanks to strict SEC guidelines that have evolved since its inception. With americans living longer then ever, FDR realized that social programs like social security and medicare provided a way to care for them giving them money for retirement and/or healthcare services. look outside your window, do you see any homeless 80 yr olds? no because of medicare and social security.
the title of worst president ever is being held by our current president.
FDR is consistently ranked among the top 5 american presidents.
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09-11-2006, 12:47 PM #10Originally Posted by johan
FDR brought about many many social programs that exist today. id surmize that a conservative would think that its not the govt's job to help its people. but its easy to question FDR or anyone for that matter when you arent currently standing in line waiting for your soup ration because your govt's poor economic system collapsed in one day.
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09-11-2006, 01:27 PM #11
FDR wasn't the worst imho.....Carter holds that title if you ask me.
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09-11-2006, 09:23 PM #12Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
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09-11-2006, 10:57 PM #13
(2)"Mein Kampf" If you want to learn about why the Holocaust happened, you can't avoid reading the words of the man who was most responsible for it happening.
Here Hitler explained his racist, anti-Semitic vision for Germany, laying out a Nazi program pointing directly to World War II and the Holocaust
The first volume of Mein Kampf was virtually ignored when it was originally published in 1925. By the time Hitler became chancellor of the Third Reich in 1933, the book stood atop the German bestseller lists. In its pages Hitler announced--long before he came to power--a program of blood and terror in a self-revelation of such overwhelming frankness that few had the courage to believe it. The few outside the Nazi party who read it dismissed it as nonsense, not believing that anyone could--or would--carry out its radical, terrorist programs. Had the book been taken seriously when it was first published, perhaps the 20th century would have been very different. That said, it is an incredibly important book.
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09-11-2006, 11:14 PM #14Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
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09-12-2006, 11:09 PM #15
lol did pat robertson put out that list?
i've actually read mein kampf, and while there are parts where he is actually insane, there are parts where you think, "wow, this guy is the ideal politician."
that whole list is hilariously shitty though; just a joke more than anything.
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09-14-2006, 03:12 PM #16Member
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I dont think any books are bad, even if you do not agree with them you can still learn from them. you truly dont understand your argument until you understand the opposing argument. If you do not agree with Kinsey, this book should help strengthen your beliefs.
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