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    Nevada Dems Nix Fox Debate

    Nevada Dems Nix Fox Debate
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3069.html

    The Nevada State Democratic Party is pulling out of a controversial presidential debate scheduled for Aug. 14 in Reno and co-hosted by Fox News, according to a letter released late Friday from state party chairman Tom Collins and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev).

    The letter said Nevada Democrats had entered into the agreement with Fox, despite strong opposition from Democratic activist groups such as MoveOn.org, as a way of finding "new ways to talk to new people."

    But Collins and Reid wrote that comments on Thursday by FOX News Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes, when he jokingly compared Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, to Osama bin Laden, "went too far," and prompted Nevada Democrats to end the partnership.

    "We cannot, as good Democrats, put our party in a position to defend such comments," the letter said. "In light of his comments, we have concluded that it is not possible to hold a presidential debate that will focus on our candidates and are therefore cancelling our August debate. We take no pleasure in this, but it is the only course of action."

    The debate was to be hosted by Fox News Channel and Fox News Radio, the Nevada State Democratic Party and the Western Majority Project.

    A statement released Friday night from Fox Vice President David Rhodes said: "News organizations will want to think twice before getting involved in the Nevada Democratic Caucus, which appears to be controlled by radical fringe, out-of-state in interest groups, not the Nevada Democratic Party. In the past, MoveOn.org has said they 'own' the Democratic party. While most Democrats don't agree with that, it's clearly the case in Nevada."

    Fox officials also argued that Ailes' remark about Obama, made at the Radio and TV News Directors Foundation Awards, was meant to poke fun at President Bush, not the Illinois senator.

    Ailes said: "And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called (Pakistani President Pervez) Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?' "

    Controversy has been brewing for weeks about the debate. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards said Wednesday he would not participate, citing Fox's conservative ties as a factor. His deputy campaign manager, Jonathan Prince, sent an e-mail to the liberal website DailyKos, which was posted on the site.

    “We’re definitely going to debate in Nevada, but we don’t see why this needs to be one of them,” it read.

    The state party has been under pressure from progressive activists across the country, led by MoveOn, to cut its ties with the debate.

    According to MoveOn, more than 265,000 people signed a petition sent to the Nevada State Democratic Party.

    In announcing the event, a statement posted by the state Democratic Party has Reid offering high praise of the debate partnership with Fox.

    “This is more great news for Nevada,” he said in the statement. “I'm happy FOX News will be a partner for the August presidential debate. Western issues will be a major focus of this debate in particular. With FOX News as our partner, candidates will have an opportunity to not only speak to Nevada voters, but voters across the West who will be instrumental to electing a Democratic president in 2008.”

    Ailes lauded the idea, too: “FOX News is proud to be a leader in coverage of the 2008 campaign season and a co-host of this important presidential debate. We look forward to working with the Nevada Democratic Party and the Western Majority Project.”

    State Democratic party chairman Collins, in a letter posted on the party web site Wednesday, said Reid now shared activist concern about the event. Collins wrote the Reid "has asked us to take another look."

    A spokeswoman for the state party did not immediately return a call.

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    I don't watch Fox news anyway. I've seen them mis-identify disgraced Republicans on their network as Democrats, trying to tie moral lapses with Democrats, several times. I've seen 'em do some other things that bring their journalistic integrity into question, so screw 'em.

    Other news sources are available, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    I don't watch Fox news anyway. I've seen them mis-identify disgraced Republicans on their network as Democrats, trying to tie moral lapses with Democrats, several times. I've seen 'em do some other things that bring their journalistic integrity into question, so screw 'em.

    Other news sources are available, anyway.
    Nowadays, everyone needs to have multiple sources as every news outlet seems to skew the news in one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Nowadays, everyone needs to have multiple sources as every news outlet seems to skew the news in one way or the other.
    True, true.

    But that Worldnet daily site that you've cited, that's some pretty weird stuff there. About as trustworthy as the www.weeklyworldnews.com . . .

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    saw this one, should be interesting , its getting fired up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    True, true.

    But that Worldnet daily site that you've cited, that's some pretty weird stuff there. About as trustworthy as the www.weeklyworldnews.com . . .
    yeh, we all have our "kook-fringe" that we go to for shock value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    yeh, we all have our "kook-fringe" that we go to for shock value.
    Ya, but I don't cite www.weeklyworldnews.com as if it was actually factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    I've seen them mis-identify disgraced Republicans on their network as Democrats, trying to tie moral lapses with Democrats, several times.
    Have to love that. It's happened at least 4 times.. and every time, it's been on the daily show the next day. The daily show is probably the most reliable news source on tv.

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    The democrats teeth are out...republicans are calling them bluff one to many times..They are degrading the democrats by character assasinations and by calling them bluff on cutting war funding...the only thing is its quite evident the dems have many things on these republicans, from powel to ahscroft to Rumsfeld,libby, to the generals at the hospitals, and now the surgeon gen himself admitting to abusing the patriot act, they aren't exactly doing it themseleves but this just proves the republicans know they are guilty of many wrong doings here, specially after they have control of both houses, even if its slightly , we will continue to see many step down over the coming months and for various reasons, its no secret this administration is troubled, the democrats will never just try to impeach the president, however they will get rid of them from the bottom up, which is the exact strategy they are using this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Ya, but I don't cite www.weeklyworldnews.com as if it was actually factual.
    never heard of it....

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    I bet Tock loves the Clinton News Network, though.

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