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    Hamas Uses Mickey Mouse Look-Alike to Teach Terror to Kids on TV
    Monday, May 07, 2007

    He looks like Mickey Mouse and sounds like Mickey Mouse, but what he's saying is hardly the fairytale stuff of Disney.

    A Mickey Mouse look-alike named Farfur is teaching Palestinian children the ABCs of terror on Hamas' official television station, Al-Aqsa TV.

    “Instead of being entertained, they’re being indoctrinated,” Excerpts from episodes that aired last month show the squeaky voiced mouse egging on children with nationalistic fervor.

    "We, tomorrow’s pioneers, will restore to this nation its glory, and we will liberate Al-Aqsa, with Allah’s will, and we will liberate Iraq, with Allah’s will, and we will liberate the Muslim countries, invaded by murderers,” Farfur says in one episode that aired in April.

    The message seems to be working. Poems and songs submitted by young viewers contain violent imagery. "Rafah sings ‘Oh, oh,’" one caller says as Farfur mimes carrying a r***e. "Its answer is an AK-47."

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    lol you still posting these kind of threads hehehe

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    While I think the method is reprehensible, the Palestinians' desire to reclaim land that they once lived on is no different than the plight of the Israelis. You do acknowledge that the Israelis took land back that they had lost the majority of over a thousand years ago, don't you? The Palestinians, whether you agree with their position or not, are trying to regain land they lost forty years ago.

    As for liberating Iraq, it is probably in the best interest of Palestinians to learn to wipe their own butts, before they go trying to clean up others'.

    You continue to show viewers of this board the ultra-negatives of the Palestinians, which are not hard to find, but I'm starting to get the impression that you view the Israelis as an innocent people thriving for peace with their neighbors. As a permanent visitor of Israel, you should know this is not exactly the case.



    This image isn't exactly very flattering. You see, children on both sides are taught to hate the other.

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    Just balancing things out here.

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    Its almost gotten to the point to where we need to till up the sand in the mid east with a big ass bomb... im getting sick of their chicken $hit tactics, its out of control!

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    Yeah, what a solution! You should write a letter to your senator! I assume the violence in the middle east effects YOU sooooo much, that killing hundreds of thousands instantly would bring some sort of peace into YOUR life. It must drive you crazy having to read articles in the newspaper about OTHER PEOPLE's lives being effected in such a negative way.

    I mean, you've obviously had it with the chicken $hit tactics that have killed Arabs and Israelis, that you have come to a conclusion that wiping out the entire region is the best solution. I mean nobody would want you to have to watch this stuff on the news anymore than you already are.

    Poor you.

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    Sorry I even replied. After reading some of your other posts, I realize that I was simply wasting my time, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamyGras
    You continue to show viewers of this board the ultra-negatives of the Palestinians, which are not hard to find, but I'm starting to get the impression that you view the Israelis as an innocent people thriving for peace with their neighbors. As a permanent visitor of Israel, you should know this is not exactly the case.



    This image isn't exactly very flattering. You see, children on both sides are taught to hate the other.
    Permanent visitor? Sorry I didnt get that one, but yes Israelis as a whole do indeed long for an end to conflict and peace with our neighbors. We do not sing songs glorifying war, we do not pray for the blood of enemies, and our children do not grow up hoping to die for some ridiculous ideology.

    And just to make clear nothing I have posted is by any definition "ultra negatives" , but a clear view of morays and folkways cultivated and nurtured to create what we see today.

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    i wonder if disney will sue??

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    Wow Ramy, im sure ur into politics....i have a brother who is a Marine and lost a neighbor to a car bomb in 2005 so dont tell me "im sure youve lost alot".... u know nothing about war, your just a typical "love everyone, lets all feel good, whining Democrat"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy003
    Wow Ramy, im sure ur into politics....i have a brother who is a Marine and lost a neighbor to a car bomb in 2005 so dont tell me "im sure youve lost alot".... u know nothing about war, your just a typical "love everyone, lets all feel good, whining Democrat"....

    You don't know anything about me. I base my opinion of you after reading your idea to nuke an entire region. So, I'm sorry your brother lost a neighbor, but I assure you I completely comprehend the effects of casualties of war. And, I assure you that it's a bit more than losing a brother's neighbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singern
    Permanent visitor? Sorry I didnt get that one, but yes Israelis as a whole do indeed long for an end to conflict and peace with our neighbors. We do not sing songs glorifying war, we do not pray for the blood of enemies, and our children do not grow up hoping to die for some ridiculous ideology.

    And just to make clear nothing I have posted is by any definition "ultra negatives" , but a clear view of morays and folkways cultivated and nurtured to create what we see today.

    I meant that, although you are not a citizen of Israel, that you live there. And, when it comes to you singer, I mean no disrespect. You have presented your case with intelligence. But, the picture I posted is to show that the children of Israel are also taught that they have an enemy. These children were obviously taken to these missiles and were given a marker to write messages. One doesn't make the other right. I understand that the Palestinians are wrong for producing these violence endorsed cartoons. It's ridiculous. However, the Israelis are in a position where this is unnecessary. As a citizen, they WILL join the military and as children, as seen by the picture, they are taught to hate the enemy.

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    No bro, I lost a neighbor... it was more of a figure of speech(nuking the whole mid east), what i do think is that we need to bomb the hell out of them... until they get the point that terrorism will not be put up with...we are obviously not doing enough now because they are still coming back for more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy003
    No bro, I lost a neighbor... it was more of a figure of speech(nuking the whole mid east), what i do think is that we need to bomb the hell out of them... until they get the point that terrorism will not be put up with...we are obviously not doing enough now because they are still coming back for more...

    My bad, I read it wrong. I thought you said your brother lost a neighbor. But, I still disagree with bombing the hell out of them. I think it's in our best interest to continue locating terror cells, and destroying them. However, bombing a large target with the understanding that there will be civilian casualties is unacceptable in my opinion.

    As for terrorists coming back for more. We were fully prepared that this would happen as long as we were in Iraq. And, I'm not some crazy Democrat that thinks we should pull out, but I do realize that we're in for more of these attacks as long as we are in the region. But, I'm not some crazy Republican that thinks it's in our best interest to bomb an entire region. This would not be smart, and there's a reason we haven't done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singern
    Permanent visitor? Sorry I didnt get that one, but yes Israelis as a whole do indeed long for an end to conflict and peace with our neighbors. We do not sing songs glorifying war, we do not pray for the blood of enemies, and our children do not grow up hoping to die for some ridiculous ideology.
    And just to make clear nothing I have posted is by any definition "ultra negatives" , but a clear view of morays and folkways cultivated and nurtured to create what we see today.
    Maybe you don't sing songs, and I agree you're not willing to kill yourself for a ridiculous ideology. But, this was about the children. And the fact is Israelis are taught at a young age about their enemy. And, my assumption is the girl writing on the missile will probably grow up to hate her neighbors no different than a Palestinian child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy003
    Wow Ramy, im sure ur into politics....i have a brother who is a Marine and lost a neighbor to a car bomb in 2005 so dont tell me "im sure youve lost alot".... u know nothing about war, your just a typical "love everyone, lets all feel good, whining Democrat"....
    i say we need to just drop da bomb oh yeah we cant democrats made sure of that . i think mushroom clouds are pretty

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigem
    i say we need to just drop da bomb oh yeah we cant democrats made sure of that . i think mushroom clouds are pretty
    like ur thinkin bro, im in Brenham, just got back from CS....anyways Ramy, I was raised Republican however I will support a democrat like Harold Ford Jr....my question for u is who do u think will win... a Morman Republican in Romney, a black Democrat in Obama, or a woman in Hillary? All three are minorites and i think lots of conservative christians will not vote for Romney....it will be a very interesting election...

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    terror mouse? gotta love teaching the kids their edjumakation

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy003
    like ur thinkin bro, im in Brenham, just got back from CS....anyways Ramy, I was raised Republican however I will support a democrat like Harold Ford Jr....my question for u is who do u think will win... a Morman Republican in Romney, a black Democrat in Obama, or a woman in Hillary? All three are minorites and i think lots of conservative christians will not vote for Romney....it will be a very interesting election...

    First of all, Hillary Clinton is not a minority. She's a white female. There are more white people than any other race in the United States, and there are more women than men in the United States. But to answer your question, I believe that the Republicans will win the presidency in 2008. And, it seems like Rudi Giuliani is going to get the nomination, so that's my guess.

    And, it interests me that you agree with gigem, but by no means does it surprise me. I enjoy listening to views that I don't automatically agree with. This is why I'm always interested in listening to what singer or logan have to say about certain topics. But, to listen to your views and gigem's views, it's quite obvious that I'm chatting with people that have no idea of the world that surrounds them. "I like mushroom clouds"? Are you serious?

    No offense, BRO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigem
    i say we need to just drop da bomb oh yeah we cant democrats made sure of that . i think mushroom clouds are pretty
    I think Republicans are not so keen on dropping "da bomb", either. Your comments are an embarrasment to conservatives everywhere. Do your party a favor. Keep your brilliant ideas to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamyGras
    I meant that, although you are not a citizen of Israel, that you live there. And, when it comes to you singer, I mean no disrespect. .

    Not only am I a citizen, but I was born here, My wife was born here, More then 8 generations of my family are buried in Jerusalem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamyGras
    Maybe you don't sing songs, and I agree you're not willing to kill yourself for a ridiculous ideology. But, this was about the children. And the fact is Israelis are taught at a young age about their enemy. And, my assumption is the girl writing on the missile will probably grow up to hate her neighbors no different than a Palestinian child.

    You are going out of your way to stretch this issue, but clearly you need a more realistic view of Israeli society. Our school system much like the US has a zero tolerance for hate related topics, Childrens TV shows are all about coexistence, and education.

    Our children are indeed taught about the enemy but not the way you may think, They are taught to be aware, and defensive, they are taught about terrorism, but they are not taught or instructed to hate anybody. A proper comparison would be like teaching kids in the US not to talk to strangers, or to scream if being kidnaped.

    We have our crime, political strife and a host of other troubles just like any other civilized nation, but teaching children to hate is not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by singern
    Not only am I a citizen, but I was born here, My wife was born here, More then 8 generations of my family are buried in Jerusalem.

    I was under the impression that you were an American, born in Chicago, and moved to Israel. I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singern
    You are going out of your way to stretch this issue, but clearly you need a more realistic view of Israeli society. Our school system much like the US has a zero tolerance for hate related topics, Childrens TV shows are all about coexistence, and education.

    Our children are indeed taught about the enemy but not the way you may think, They are taught to be aware, and defensive, they are taught about terrorism, but they are not taught or instructed to hate anybody. A proper comparison would be like teaching kids in the US not to talk to strangers, or to scream if being kidnaped.

    We have our crime, political strife and a host of other troubles just like any other civilized nation, but teaching children to hate is not one of them.
    I realize that the school systems are similar to that of the U.S. I also realize that the Palestinians have a different method of teaching than the Israelis. And that there method is unorthodoxed and, at times, unacceptable. However, how do you explain the children signing the missiles that were about to be sent abroad? How is this not hateful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamyGras
    I realize that the school systems are similar to that of the U.S. I also realize that the Palestinians have a different method of teaching than the Israelis. And that there method is unorthodoxed and, at times, unacceptable. However, how do you explain the children signing the missiles that were about to be sent abroad? How is this not hateful?
    semantics? I cannot compare writing "to Nasrala with love" on a missile headed for Hezbola terrorists, VS raising children to glorify death, and crave the murder of innocent Jews.

    Here is a valid comparison:
    Most if not all American children hope for the terrorist BinLaden to meet his maker.
    BinLaden teaches his children to kill all non Muslims and that all Americans must die.

    Does this mean that American children are taught to hate?
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    Its horrible to do this to any child. But lets not act like it doesn't happen every where.

    On the news a couple months ago there was a christian version of this in the US. Its was showing kids pretending to kill each other with swords. Its brain washing either way and pathetic

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    I lived for one year in the United States (Danbury, Connecticut) when I was in grade 7, I was 12-13 years old during the school year (1997-1998), and I went to a private Catholic school. Our religion teacher used to constantly tell us how bad Muslims and Arabs are, how backwards their religion is, how they are trying to "brainwash our (American) children" into following their religion with their mosques, and then be taught how great God was and why we should follow Him (oh, the irony!), and this was pre-9/11!!!

    There is just as much BS being taught to American children (and foreigners like me) as there is to Muslim children. Each have their own way of presenting their crap, but they are just equally as bad. There are fanatics on both sides that are spoon feeding this shit, and this is probably what is causing most of the problems we are seeing today in relation to all the fighting going on.

    Like gixxer said, lets not act like it doesn't happen everywhere.

    On a positive note, Hamas stopped showing that program.

    http://www.thestar.com/News/article/212173

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    Quote Originally Posted by Militia
    lol you still posting these kind of threads hehehe

    Whoa! Is this who I think it is???

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    Everyone cant say what they want, however it is a known fact to the world that the United States is the greatest country of existance. A place where we can debate openly like this. After all is said and done, I am just glad to be American!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamyGras
    While I think the method is reprehensible, the Palestinians' desire to reclaim land that they once lived on is no different than the plight of the Israelis. You do acknowledge that the Israelis took land back that they had lost the majority of over a thousand years ago, don't you? The Palestinians, whether you agree with their position or not, are trying to regain land they lost forty years ago.

    As for liberating Iraq, it is probably in the best interest of Palestinians to learn to wipe their own butts, before they go trying to clean up others'.

    You continue to show viewers of this board the ultra-negatives of the Palestinians, which are not hard to find, but I'm starting to get the impression that you view the Israelis as an innocent people thriving for peace with their neighbors. As a permanent visitor of Israel, you should know this is not exactly the case.



    This image isn't exactly very flattering. You see, children on both sides are taught to hate the other.


    You say that you argue the Israeli side on other websites, but this is hard to believe. If thats true, then why can't you can't just look at the video that tells little children that they will take over the world under Islamic leadership and say -- "now that is screwed up!" ?

    The fact that you have any other reaction is appalling. Just trying to even things out? Call me cynical, but that's awfully hard to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy003
    Everyone cant say what they want, however it is a known fact to the world that the United States is the greatest country of existance. A place where we can debate openly like this. After all is said and done, I am just glad to be American!
    I hope that when I post that people don't think I'm anti-American. Like I said in an earlier post, I used to live in the US. I have American friends that I made while I was living there that I still keep in touch with to this day. I try to give a different perspective to issues as someone who has lived in both Canada and the United States and has experienced both cultures. Watching your news channels, it's hard to get an accurate picture of what is really going on. We see the news in a different perspective with no censorship, although we do have some biased news channels here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
    You say that you argue the Israeli side on other websites, but this is hard to believe. If thats true, then why can't you can't just look at the video that tells little children that they will take over the world under Islamic leadership and say -- "now that is screwed up!" ?

    The fact that you have any other reaction is appalling. Just trying to even things out? Call me cynical, but that's awfully hard to believe.

    You are cynical. I don't debate on any other websites. I debate with other Arabs and Muslims, and yes I do show Israelis' side of the argument. I read things that singer shows and I do bring these valid points to the view of other Arabs and Muslims.

    You ask why I don't say "now that is screwed up"? I did. Although, I used different words. You should've read on. Of course, it's screwed up.

    You think it's hard to believe that I defend Israelis when I'm hearing biased arguments against them. That's your problem. However, Israel RARELY gets attacked at this forum, and Palestinians and Muslims ALWAYS get attacked here. So, I argue their side of things.

    I am flattered, however, that you found comments on a different post, and brought them here to make accusations at me. Sorry you find my comments appalling. However, don't you think the above comments about nuking the entire region a bit MORE appalling? Maybe not.

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    Using "mickey mouse" to persuade children to become killers!


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    Yes it is. Thank you.

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    Interestingly Hamas has temporarily stopped broadcasting this Mickey Mouse Terror indoctrination program due to condemnation from abroad, but the international community doesn’t seem to care about the 10 or 20 other programs using cartoons, Sesame street, and other known children’s themes’ The Palestinians use as a method of forging the next generation of terror and racialy inspired violence.

    Any way stay tuned boys and girls, Coming up next...... Shahid Shahid Doo. The whacky kids and their talking dog behead some infidel's and then take their place at the local Jihad rally.

    Followed by the Allah-tubbies, watch them receive TV images of 72 virgins as they get soapy in the shower.
    Last edited by singern; 05-10-2007 at 02:39 PM.

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    that is pretty fvcked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by singern
    Interestingly Hamas has temporarily stopped broadcasting this Mickey Mouse Terror indoctrination program due to condemnation from abroad, but the international community doesn’t seem to care about the 10 or 20 other programs using cartoons, Sesame street, and other known children’s themes’ The Palestinians use as a method of forging the next generation of terror and racialy inspired violence.

    Any way stay tuned boys and girls, Coming up next...... Shahid Shahid Doo. The whacky kids and their talking dog behead some infidel's and then take their place at the local Jihad rally.

    Followed by the Allah-tubbies, watch them receive TV images of 72 virgins as they get soapy in the shower.

    My sister is still lau***ng about this one.

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