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    Obama predicts Clinton win in Pa. but says it will be close

    SCRANTON, Pa. - Barack Obama predicted Monday that Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton would get the critical victory she needs in Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary, but said his goal is to keep it close.

    "I'm not predicting a win," he told Pittsburgh radio station KDKA. "I'm predicting it's going to be close and that we are going to do a lot better than people expect."

    Clinton aides tried to downplay expectations, insisting they would be grateful for a single-digit win. While the New York senator began the race with a hefty 20-point lead in several polls in the state, Obama's extensive campaigning and heavy ad buy have significantly cut into Clinton's lead.

    She told supporters in Scranton, "We really need to bear down in these last few days. The whole world is watching."

    Clinton was hoping a big win could boost her chance at the nomination. A loss would increase pressure on her to exit the race, with Obama leading in delegates and the popular vote.

    Pennsylvania is the largest of the 10 contests remaining, with about 4 million registered Democrats and 158 delegates up for grabs in the primary.

    The demographics suit Clinton. The state has a higher median age, a higher percentage of whites, a lower median household income and fewer bachelor's degrees than the country overall. These are the voters — working-class whites and voters older than 50 — who have flocked to her in past contests.

    There are some encouraging signs as well for Obama. Thousands of new voters have registered for the primary. The largest bounce has been in Centre County, home to Penn State, and Obama tends to fair best among college students.

    "We've run a tough race here in Pennsylvania," he said in the radio interview. "Senator Clinton obviously was heavily favored. She was up 20. And you know, we've just been trying to chip away."

    The two candidates had packed schedules on the eve of the contest. It comes after a six-week break in voting allowed them to spend more time in Pennsylvania than in any state since the primaries and caucuses began at the first of the year.

    Both candidates planned final appearances in Pennsylvania's largest urban centers — Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Both also had extensive national schedules, taping interviews with all the network morning shows to be aired Tuesday. Clinton also scheduled to appear Monday evening on MSNBC's "Countdown" and CNN's "Larry King Live," while Obama planned to be on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show."

    Clinton also released a new television ad summarizing her closing argument. "It's the toughest job in the world," an announcer says as images throughout history air on the screen — the stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, the Soviet threat, the collapse of the Berlin Wall, Osama bin Laden, Hurricane Katrina.

    "You need to be ready for anything, especially now, with two wars, oil prices skyrocketing and an economy in crisis. Harry Truman said it best, `If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.' Who do you think has what it takes?" the announcer says at the end, as an image of Clinton at a rally appears. Obama's campaign said the ad appealed to people's fears.

    Both candidates started the day in Scranton, a heavily Democratic working-class area of northeast Pennsylvania that is struggling economically.

    Clinton held a rally and touted her local roots — her father was born and buried in Scranton and her grandfather worked in a local lace mill for 35 years.

    As the crowd chanted "One Day to Victory!" and "Madam President!" Clinton urged supporters to go to the polls. One yelled out, "We got your back, Hillary!"

    She replied, "I appreciate your having my back. As your president, I'll have your back."

    One mile north, Obama got an order of waffles and sausage and at least one more vote at the Glider Diner. Larry Perry, a 57-year-old Vietnam veteran from New Milford, pressed Obama on what he would do for troops returning from Iraq.

    "You want my vote? Let's hear it," Perry said. Obama gave a quick outline of his proposals, including opening more Veterans Affairs clinics.

    "He convinced me," Perry said afterward. "I liked what he said. I'm tired of the Clintons. I'm tired of the Bushes."

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    To all PA members out there, don't forget to vote tomorrow! Make your voice count!

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    *shrug* no real difference between the two.

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    I think he will lose big in pa

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I think he will lose big in pa
    every pole I have seen shows Hilary winning but the question is by how much. I have seen as close as 5 points to as big as 20+ points. She really needs to beat him by a lot, like 20 points or more otherwise it's over for her. A 20 point win and she can steal this election back from him. I don't like either but I sure like a good race and this is an exciting race, it's almost like watching a sporting event. I am going to stay up tomorrow to watch the results and see how both sides act to the results.

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    I'm not a big pole person. But with Rendells backing and i think Obama's comments are going to hurt him in the rural areas. I'm guessing 15 point win min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I think he will lose big in pa
    He won't. He's picking up the White male vote. You didn't see the rally for "Bikers for Obama?" A bunch of bikers on Harleys who are sick of the Clintons.
    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I'm not a big pole person. But with Rendells backing and i think Obama's comments are going to hurt him in the rural areas. I'm guessing 15 point win min.
    The only people who were offended by his comment were the press and politicians. If you noticed the polls his numbers actually went up after his "bitter" comment. Fox News went to PA and asked random people if they were offended by his bitter comment. An old White guy said no, I'm not offended. I am angry and bitter. A lot of the jobs have left here." So the reporter said you must be an Obama supporter. He said no, I'm voting for McCain.

    A sample here:

    http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/...-pennsylvania/

    This video isn't the full interview. At the end he says he doesn't support Obama and he's voting for McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    every pole I have seen shows Hilary winning but the question is by how much. I have seen as close as 5 points to as big as 20+ points. She really needs to beat him by a lot, like 20 points or more otherwise it's over for her. A 20 point win and she can steal this election back from him. I don't like either but I sure like a good race and this is an exciting race, it's almost like watching a sporting event. I am going to stay up tomorrow to watch the results and see how both sides act to the results.
    Hillary's running out of money. She started April with close to $32 million cash-on hand. But only $8 million of the funds are available for the primary. Clinton owed $10.3 million meaning she started April in $2.3 million in debt. She's blew a ton of money on ads in PA. Where did that money come from? The last I heard is University of CA is sending the bill Clinton owes them to a collection agency.

    http://cbs13.com/local/clinton.campa....2.694498.html

    Obama on the other hand started the month with $42 million to spend for the primary and owed $650,00 debt. Obama has $52 million cash on hand over all.

    Now if Hillary can't manage campaign finances what makes people think she can handle the economy? Her entire campaign has been a train wreck in slow motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    He won't. He's picking up the White male vote. You didn't see the rally for "Bikers for Obama?" A bunch of bikers on Harleys who are sick of the Clintons.

    The only people who were offended by his comment were the press and politicians. If you noticed the polls his numbers actually went up after his "bitter" comment. Fox News went to PA and asked random people if they were offended by his bitter comment. An old White guy said no, I'm not offended. I am angry and bitter. A lot of the jobs have left here." So the reporter said you must be an Obama supporter. He said no, I'm voting for McCain.

    A sample here:

    http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/...-pennsylvania/

    This video isn't the full interview. At the end he says he doesn't support Obama and he's voting for McCain.
    I've been tv less latley. So i have been seeing little bites here and there. I agree i dont think the commets were much. I guess what i heard was part of the hype.

    I saw something on fox news last night interviewing people in rural pa. A few didnt care. The majority they showed did. Mostly becasue of the religion factor

    I guess we will both see tomorrow. It will be interesting either way
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    PA Exit polls. It looks like Obama cut into Hillary's base.

    *PA Dem Voters
    Women
    Clinton 55%
    Obama 44

    Men
    Clinton 47%
    Obama 53

    Whites
    Clinton 60%
    Obama 40

    Blacks
    Clinton 8%
    Obama 92
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