Gay marriage may be a gift to California's economy

[DSM4Life]

Another reason is that I have a first cousin that I grew up with and there were 8 guy cousins and 3 female cousins, we were all close and we were literally 6 mos apart from 1st to last. The one cousin after graduating high school and going to college "decided" (you see, there's that word again) that he was gay and came home for Christmas one year and sprung it on the rest of the family. He was the normal guy growing up and his brother got married to a woman and then BOOM!
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In most of these cases he was always gay but because of how society treats gay people most decide to stay in the closet. Again who in their right minds would want to live this life !? I had multiply LTR with women but after a while i started to notice i was attracted to men. I still dated women to be as you would say "normal." That only lasted for so long before i started to drive myself insane and came out to family and friends.

I been out for a couple years now but i still can't be out at work as i know (for a fact, from another guy) it would effect me career wise, how sad is that ?

[CeeLo]

In most of these cases he was always gay but because of how society treats gay people most decide to stay in the closet. Again who in their right minds would want to live this life !? I had multiply LTR with women but after a while i started to notice i was attracted to men. I still dated women to be as you would say "normal." That only lasted for so long before i started to drive myself insane and came out to family and friends.

I been out for a couple years now but i still can't be out at work as i know (for a fact, from another guy) it would effect me career wise, how sad is that ?

Ys, that is sad. It reminds me of that movie with Tom Hanks and Denzel Whasington when Tom Hanks got Aids and hired Denzel as his lawyer after getting fired from the "FIRM" (that he help make) when they found out that he was GAY. I cried in that movie when he died at the end of the show before he won his case.

[DSM4Life]

Ys, that is sad. It reminds me of that movie with Tom Hanks and Denzel Whasington when Tom Hanks got Aids and hired Denzel as his lawyer after getting fired from the "FIRM" (that he help make) when they found out that he was GAY. I cried in that movie when he died at the end of the show before he won his case.

That movie is called "Philadelphia," ironically i am from phila !

It was a good flick. Thats gives you a small glimpse of what some gay people face everyday.

[Carlos_E]

I been out for a couple years now but i still can't be out at work as i know (for a fact, from another guy) it would effect me career wise, how sad is that ?

I'm out at work and I don't give a fuck. I dare someone to say some shit to me. They're afraid I'd rape them.

[DSM4Life]

I'm out at work and I don't give a fuck. I dare someone to say some shit to me. They're afraid I'd rape them.

lol I really could care less what they think but recently a co-worker did come out at work and me being cool with the bosses i get all the behind the scene gossip and it ain't pretty. Let just say it could effect any future promotions.

[gst528i]

I don't have any gay friends, not out of choice or anything. But from what i understand it's not a choice since it's an imbalance of some kind of hormone so therefore it cannot be a choice. No body has a choice to be 5'2 or 6ft tall, it's all based on genetics.

[inheritmylife]

I'm out at work and I don't give a fuck. I dare someone to say some shit to me. They're afraid I'd rape them.

Being a big-as-hell black dude is still intimidating, gay or not.

[RA]

I dont think its a hormone imbalance. Add more test to Carlos=wants sex w/guys more

I don't have any gay friends, not out of choice or anything. But from what i understand it's not a choice since it's an imbalance of some kind of hormone so therefore it cannot be a choice. No body has a choice to be 5'2 or 6ft tall, it's all based on genetics.

[Carlos_E]

I dont think its a hormone imbalance. Add more test to Carlos=wants sex w/guys more

Wanna come over?

[RA]

lol...maybe next time..

Wanna come over?

[gst528i]

this is an intresting read.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/mag...es_people_gay/

[CeeLo]

this is an intresting read.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/mag...es_people_gay/

Sorry, but can you give me the jist of that. It was kinda of lengthy.

[Carlos_E]

Sorry, but can you give me the jist of that. It was kinda of lengthy.

Yeah, we wouldn't want you learning anything or forming an opinion based on facts.

[CeeLo]

Yeah, we wouldn't want you learning anything or forming an opinion based on facts.

Sorry dude, but my computer time is a little limited today.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Don't these two statements contradict each other? In one breath you're saying they "made a conscious decision" to be attracted to the same sex, then you say they were "turned gay" by some event in their life outside of their control.
Please explain.

No I was saying that being exposed to that kind of thing in that way really can screw with someones head as to what is normal ie Man and Woman.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

That's what kills me. Straight people TELLING me why I am gay as if they're the athourity on the subject. I am gay because God made me this way. Just as I was made with my skin color. Both things I cannot change. That's what they don't get.

Am I supposed to go out and date women? Pretend to like them? Pretend and have sex with them? That's ridiculous! Dumb people draining.

No God did not make you gay. That is against his nature and if you don't believe me read the Bible yourself (although you probably dismiss it as fiction anyway). He designed this earth to be very orderly and and everything has its place. Like a man with a woman. Not a man with a man. These are not my opinions, they are God's and even if I felt different who am I to argue with the creator of the universe?

And no, I'm not saying you should go out and have sex with women. But since we're on a this topic, God also all forms of sexual immorality. I am curious though what are your thoughts on this?

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Don't these two statements contradict each other? In one breath you're saying they "made a conscious decision" to be attracted to the same sex, then you say they were "turned gay" by some event in their life outside of their control.
Please explain.

No Coop, I'm saying that because some were exposed to that from a molestation (which is a sad and terrible thing) at an early age they are then confused to what is normal. All people that go down that route make a concious decision.

[FallenWyvern]

No God did not make you gay. That is against his nature and if you don't believe me read the Bible yourself (although you probably dismiss it as fiction anyway). He designed this earth to be very orderly and and everything has its place. Like a man with a woman. Not a man with a man. These are not my opinions, they are God's and even if I felt different who am I to argue with the creator of the universe?

And no, I'm not saying you should go out and have sex with women. But since we're on a this topic, God also all forms of sexual immorality. I am curious though what are your thoughts on this?

Does god make animals gay? They exist naturally in nature. Are they immoral?

[thegodfather]

No Coop, I'm saying that because some were exposed to that from a molestation (which is a sad and terrible thing) at an early age they are then confused to what is normal. All people that go down that route make a concious decision.

I guess you totally ignored my rebuttal to you where I proved you incorrect when you asserted that sexual orientation is a choice. But hey, just as I might dismiss the bible as fiction, you might dismiss my science as witchcraft and want to drown me or burn me alive at the stake. Religious zealouts like yourself did that, not so long ago either, 3 or 400 years.

If we use the premise that God was the architect of DNA, therefore designing all living things.....and we have thus learned that sexual orientation is very much PROVEN to be reliant on the genetic code and the way the brain develops BECAUSE of the DNA/genetic code, then one must only assume that God designed it that way. Please look back to my post and at least address what I said.

[Act of God]

Does god make animals gay? They exist naturally in nature. Are they immoral?

That's a poor argument, there are many things that occur in nature that are undesireable and "bad" (cancer, birth defects, liberals, heart disease). I prefer "mind your freakin business!" as a better rationale.

[Peducho0113]

No Coop, I'm saying that because some were exposed to that from a molestation (which is a sad and terrible thing) at an early age they are then confused to what is normal. All people that go down that route make a concious decision.

Child molestation defenitely has many Post Psycological problems. Now to say that because of it, people became gay is very steriotipical.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

That's a poor argument, there are many things that occur in nature that are undesireable and "bad" (cancer, birth defects, liberals, heart disease). I prefer "mind your freakin business!" as a better rationale.

LOl good post.

[DeputyLoneWolf]

I guess you totally ignored my rebuttal to you where I proved you incorrect when you asserted that sexual orientation is a choice. But hey, just as I might dismiss the bible as fiction, you might dismiss my science as witchcraft and want to drown me or burn me alive at the stake. Religious zealouts like yourself did that, not so long ago either, 3 or 400 years.

If we use the premise that God was the architect of DNA, therefore designing all living things.....and we have thus learned that sexual orientation is very much PROVEN to be reliant on the genetic code and the way the brain develops BECAUSE of the DNA/genetic code, then one must only assume that God designed it that way. Please look back to my post and at least address what I said.

Not ignoring you I just havent had time to be on here for more than 5 min lately. I will be happy to answer when I have more time.

[Peducho0113]

I am gay and I was never Molested as a Child.

[DSM4Life]

I am gay and I was never Molested as a Child.

Would you like to be molested as an adult ?

[Carlos_E]

Would you like to be molested as an adult ?

[Act of God]

Anyway you look at it, men are pigs!