Does U.S. poll rule out fraud in Iran?

[eliteforce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0iP...eature=channel

although international consensus seems to be that election was rigged, us polling data showed results consistent with final outcome.

[RA]

I stopped watching 1/4 of the way through. Why would you post such garbage?

[eliteforce]

Why is that report Garbage? it's probably true, there's no real reason to suspect fraud, both candidates are insiders so i see no reason there would be fraud on such a large scale.

[Bio-boosted]

I watched the Ayatollah speech this morning,

"Death to the UK, the US and the West"

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WTF has Iran's protests got to do with us? Stupid fukking turds

[Kratos]

[QUOTE=eliteforce;4702879although international consensus seems to be that election was rigged, us polling data showed results consistent with final outcome.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about?
Post the US study that shows consistant polling results to the election.
In fact data is far from consistant with the landslide victory.

A Gallup Poll conducted in Iran in 2008 found Iranians divided on the honesty of their elections before last week’s disputed presidential election, with 50% saying they were confident and 40% saying they were not. Rural Iranians (66%) were nearly twice as likely as urban Iranians (36%) to express trust. So, clearly there is reason to call the election into question.

Not that America has any place to police Iran's elections...they don't even have to have elections, elections are only to statisfy the public of Iran, not the US.

I have no clue why you would be against the election being investigated. It only severs the people of Iran for their voice to be heard.

[eliteforce]

well i did post polling that is consistent with the outcome, most of Irans population is rural- Ahmnadinijad supporters.. and if the governemt is going to commit fraud; wouldn't they have fudged a closer election if mousaui was actually the winner? and mousaui is not an outsider, he is a former PM from the 80's, would the government there be motivated to install Ahmnadinijad when mousaui has the same basic policy on things like the nuclear issue and putting mosaui in power would make it harder for irans enemies to push for international isolation .

[Kale]

Who gives a flying fvck what happens in Iran. Bunch of fvcking nut bags anyway no matter who is in power.

[Bio-boosted]

True, though the protesters are showing that many of then have seen thru the old system and aren't happy with it.
I wish then luck and hope they bring down the ayatollahs, it could make Iran less of a pain in the ass for the rest of us.
jmo

[Panzerfaust]

Its only "fraud" because the US is obviously medling in the internal affairs of Iran. They want Ahmadinejad out so they can install the government of their choice as Iran holds a key position in the Middle East.

[Kratos]

well i did post polling that is consistent with the outcome, most of Irans population is rural- Ahmnadinijad supporters.. and if the governemt is going to commit fraud; wouldn't they have fudged a closer election if mousaui was actually the winner? and mousaui is not an outsider, he is a former PM from the 80's, would the government there be motivated to install Ahmnadinijad when mousaui has the same basic policy on things like the nuclear issue and putting mosaui in power would make it harder for irans enemies to push for international isolation .

While there is not enough information to determine whether or not the election was rigged, this poll certainly doesn't rule out the possibility. The poll's authors concluded prior to the election that the very same data predicted a relatively close vote (not a landslide).

Clearly the protests are evident the credibility of the election isn't just a western agenda.

The president isn't the supreme ruler of Iran anyway.

I don't think the US is interested in putting Mosaui in power. Just that the media has recognized the election is suspect.

[Flagg]

Its only "fraud" because the US is obviously medling in the internal affairs of Iran. They want Ahmadinejad out so they can install the government of their choice as Iran holds a key position in the Middle East.

That was Plan A. Plan B will involve us or the Israel bombing the place flat because of an imminent made up threat that will happen in the not too distant future.

[MuscleScience]

Ahmadinejad is a bad man (michael Jackson bad) I was reading some bio's on him. He is hardcore dude and is all about his nation.

[Panzerfaust]

Ahmadinejad is a bad man (michael Jackson bad) I was reading some bio's on him. He is hardcore dude and is all about his nation.

And that is why he must go, he does not want to comply with the NWO.

[eliteforce]

The US does have this 'black' budget item on Iran in which large amounts of your tax dollars are spent trying to undermine this Iranian 'regime' and what exactly is done with this money we have no idea but you can bet they are taking this unrest as an opportunity to do more of whatever the hell they do with your money

If your tax dollars are interfering in their political system then it does have something to do with 'us' and you should be directing your question to your local congressman-who most likly has no idea what is being done with your money.

I watched the Ayatollah speech this morning, .
WTF has Iran's protests got to do with us? Stupid fukking turds

[Kratos]

The US does have this 'black' budget item on Iran in which large amounts of your tax dollars are spent trying to undermine this Iranian 'regime' and what exactly is done with this money we have no idea but you can bet they are taking this unrest as an opportunity to do more of whatever the hell they do with your money

If your tax dollars are interfering in their political system then it does have something to do with 'us' and you should be directing your question to your local congressman-who most likly has no idea what is being done with your money.

Our black budget is bigger then most countries defense spending total (for example france, UK, China). President Barack Obama’s Defense and Intelligence budget for Fiscal Year 2010 will greatly expand the reach of unaccountable agencies. That's change you can count on.

It's tough to say a butt-load of money goes to Iran, and is dedicated to regime change. The truth is nobody knows if any money is dedicated to Iran. Based on the size of the black budget...it would be igrorant to think some money doesn't.

Some things can be broken out of the black budget by people with too much time on their hands. But, nobody on the outside (or even the inside) has the power to truely figure out what's going on. For example, an $850 million USAF line item is clearly linked to reconnaissance satellites. But even so, the numbers are huge and get bigger by the year.
In 1953, Mohammed Mossadegh, was driven from power in a coup and replaced by Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi. After the coup, the shah agreed that U.S. companies, led by Gulf Oil, would receive 40% of Iranian oil. The CIA's budget for the coup was $1 million; 300 people were killed. Regime change in Iran was quick and easy.
Things are more comlicated then oil now with the Jew situation.
I see the US now in a position to free itself from oil dependence. We aren't heading down that path purely for the political gain of few.

Wind power
good for maybe 3% of the grid, but isn't the soloution...but it's popular

cafe standards
huge economic cost...we need a national battery lab to facilitate a resonable percentage electrification of cars. Where will we get the money? How about not building another 2-3 billion dollar sub that's only good for fighting the russkies anyway.

we need investment in new nuclear reactors and reactor technology
and we need to invest in bio-fuel technology and electrification of rail lines
because tractor trailor trucks and airplanes are not going to run on batteries

Intervention is not something you'll see a lot of Americans stand behind...just look at the results. Where has US regime change ever in the globe brought lasting stability? So I'm with you there.

[Panzerfaust]

I watched the Ayatollah speech this morning, .
WTF has Iran's protests got to do with us? Stupid fukking turds

I guess you don't know how America has stuck their ****ing nose in the internal policies of most governments around the world. And installed its own puppet government in Iran in the 1950's...and people wonder why Iran cannot stand the US?

I'm sure you wouldn't mind someone going through your business attempting to undermine what you say and do, or would you?