1 in 7 Americans living in poverty

[JJ78]

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...-says/19636445

The US government is eliminating the middle class.

NPR said today that this is the worst month for forclosures since the housing collapse.
Here in Nevada 1 in every 84 houses recieved forclosure notices this month. That is up from last month.

Las Vegas is quickly going under.

[zabster151]

yep, all those people who think we are conspiracy theorist are going to see the change in America, its just a matter of time till people start rioting in the street because they have no food or job or place to live. i don't really understand why people cant see this coming it is so clear. i am not happy about this at all but i want to know every detail.
i mean really what do you expect people to do when they have nothing just lay there. i don't think so.

[JJ78]

Nope. Natural instinct is to survive. There will be a lot of robbing and killing going on when people get hungry.

Home invasions and murder rates are steadily climbing.

Most people will lay down and beleive that when they come knocking and say hey we will take you to a safe place that has food and shelter(FEMA CAMPS) they will go. Because for 2 generations Men have evolved into p ussies.
IE Emo, Skinny jean wearing p ussies.

These places
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4


And here is a list of potential camps across the US. http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1062

Most are old Military bases that they have been fixing up.
Only way in is by plane and Train

[JJ78]

Could be bullshit, but supposedly these train cars can be easily converted to people carriers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBO24iVVw-4

Imagine all the photos you see of the Nazis putting people into train cars.

It has happened before.

[PistolStarta]

Nope. Natural instinct is to survive. There will be a lot of robbing and killing going on when people get hungry.

Home invasions and murder rates are steadily climbing.

Most people will lay down and beleive that when they come knocking and say hey we will take you to a safe place that has food and shelter(FEMA CAMPS) they will go. Because for 2 generations Men have evolved into p ussies.
IE Emo, Skinny jean wearing p ussies.

These places
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4


And here is a list of potential camps across the US. http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1062

Most are old Military bases that they have been fixing up.
Only way in is by plane and Train

The "These Places" video has already been discreted by someone I can't find the video but they did a walk through of the area when it was open and there were workers truly fixing old trains, thats why the new air and heat units went in and the turn style was originally the entrance for workers and has since been replaced with key card access or something to that effect.

[warchild]

so the gov't is trying to set up concentration camps for poverty?

[PistolStarta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fo_r...eature=related

This isn't the video, but at 4:22 look at the Amtrak people fixing trains in your "death" buildings.

[JJ78]

Did you know that the Amercan government has been buying up all of the railways.

Not just for poverty.

FEMA is setting up the camps for any national emergency.
Financial crisis.
Natural disaster.
Martial Law.
Invasion.

[PistolStarta]

Did you know that the Amercan government has been buying up all of the railways.

Not just for poverty.

FEMA is setting up the camps for any national emergency.
Financial crisis.
Natural disaster.
Martial Law.
Invasion.

Yes they have plots of land to set up for disasters, you have no legal proof of the rest other than theories. As for buying up railways, it keeps people employed and allows routes to be revamped. Who cares, you don't even understand how impossible it would be to get whole groups of people to get onto trains willingly, We are an armed country, not Jews facing machine gun armed nazis.

[JJ78]

As far as the discredited video.

There are thousands of these x military facilities across North America.

I am just posting this stuff up.

Do you remember that during WWII that we rounded up all of the Japanese Americans and locked them up in camps because they were deemed threats.

These were American citizens.
What is to stop it from happening again?

[JJ78]

We are an Obese,
Lazy,
non educated country.

Just because you own a firearm doesnt mean you have the balls to use it on someone.

[JJ78]

And, yes, these are just theories

[JJ78]

So are you telling me that in the neighborhood or community that you live in, you look around and see people willing to fight?

I live in vegas and all I see is a bunch of pretty boy pussies.

[PistolStarta]

We are an Obese,
Lazy,
non educated country.

Just because you own a firearm doesnt mean you have the balls to use it on someone.

You under estimate Americans and overestimate you're government. I could gladly shoot someone threatening me I was raised around guns and have a conceal carry. WW2 was again a long time ago, and are you expecting a Japanese bombing soon or something. Did all the Muslims get rounded up after Sept. 11? ZOMG NO THEY DIDNT!

Show me the 1000's of military facilities set up to process and house people and not soldiers and i'll shut up.

[PistolStarta]

you don't need a lot of people to fight, you need alot of people to understand its about the people. Do I think every fat piece of shit on welfare will be standing next to me with whatever gun he can find willing to die, no. Do I think you'd have hundreds and thousands of people per state fighting. yes.

[JJ78]

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1062

Speculation? Maybe.

[JJ78]

Do you know anybody with helicopters or large armored personel carriers.

During Katrina they went door to door confiscating guns and shooting looters in the street. This was in America a few years ago.
It will not be the US military doing this.

It will be the UN.

US Marines will not shoot and kill their own people.

[JJ78]

Woops bad link.

Here it is

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1062

[PistolStarta]

Woops bad link.

Here it is

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1062

Ok so you linked me to a biased new source, clearly privately owned. Whom stated there are martial law rules in that can be used which were made 30 years ago which most people know martial law exists, and then lists every formerly used military area or base in the country.

[PistolStarta]

Shit dude they list fort benning as a camp that should be a red flag.

[JJ78]

Licensed gun owners would be the first to deemed a threat

[JJ78]

All news sources are prvately owned!

[JJ78]

And I said that they are potential camps.

[PistolStarta]

Licensed gun owners would be the first to deemed a threat

Right which is what every conspiracy theorist has said since the 70's stop wanting to believe and your life may be alittle less stressful. Shit isnt happening.

[JJ78]

isnt Fox news biased

[PistolStarta]

And I said that they are potential camps.

lol So basically it means nothing and is evidence that we do in fact have military bases in our own country. Okay I'm terrified.

[PistolStarta]

And I said that they are potential camps.

Sure, but you can't argue against a video that shows the workers fixing freaking old Amtrak trains.

[JJ78]

Not stressed brother. this is called alternative thought. I just coose not to believe the bullshit that is talked about on mainstream media.

Like hollywood bullshit.

[PistolStarta]

All news sources are prvately owned!

By privately owned I meant it could be 1 moron in his basement creating that site, a bit different than nationally syndicated news.

[JJ78]

I guess all of the people that are loosing their homes and jobs will be taken care of soon huh.
Our wonderful leaders will take care of it.

[JJ78]

and you dont think that mainstream media censors their content.
Just a couple of rich dudes sitting in a board room dictating what is reported

[PistolStarta]

Yea, by putting them in camps apparently. That would make perfect fiscal sense.

[PistolStarta]

spend billions of dollars moving the poor to "camps" and feeding and clothing them, taking away any spending power they had from their government hand outs to improve the economy. Makes sense to me.

[JJ78]

I doubt that they will be providing food and clothing to them.

Not that i think the government should, but there are houdreds of thousands of Americans going hungry everyday, and they arent providing shit.

[JJ78]

Hand outs to improve the economy?

Isnt that what our government just did with the bank bailouts.

Who did that hel;p.

[powerliftmike]

isnt Fox news biased

Yes, just like all media outlets are biased. Fox is conservative and republican..but almost all others are Jew run and a strong bias toward the democratic party and/or liberals. Its all propaganda, just investigate things for yourself and dont bank on something they say..like "double dip recession, get ready" or whatever. Nobody knows, but fear always sells better.

Hand outs to improve the economy?

Isnt that what our government just did with the bank bailouts.

Who did that hel;p.

Everyone always bashes the "bank bailouts" as wrong. Hell it isnt exactly free market, but thing is the govt has and will MAKE A PROFIT from it. This is very atypical. Let me know when low class urban blacks pay the tax payers back WITH INTEREST!!

[Twist]

JJ is right that our rights are definitely being stripped away and things are far from constitutional... But we can't even control a little strip of land in a third world country with multiple militaries... no way the US could just be stepped on and shut down.

FEMA is way out of hand. Both sides of this are correct.

[DSM4Life]

If you listen/watch fox news you should be shot.

[BgMc31]

JJ is right that our rights are definitely being stripped away and things are far from constitutional... But we can't even control a little strip of land in a third world country with multiple militaries... no way the US could just be stepped on and shut down.

FEMA is way out of hand. Both sides of this are correct.

What rights have you lost?

[lovbyts]

What rights have you lost?

OMG are you kidding? How old are you? 13? The problem is most kids dont know because they never had them to begin with and they just keep slowly taking rights away so each generation is ignorant about what the one before had.

Call it what you will but people who are forced to NOT smoke even in the privacy of their own home, outside or bar owners being able to choose to have smoking or not is loosing a right. Im not a smoker but I see it as a right being taken away.
There are many many many laws imposed on people with claims it's for YOUR best interest but you have lost the right to choose for yourself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=364x2433743
Gun owners
http://www.gunowners.org/a010808.htm
Here are a few more interesting facts
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general...b20030508.html

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resourc...s20031114.html

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0602j.asp about the Wiretaps

You have traffic camera set up to sent you tickets. You have lost the right to face your accuser.

If you are a teacher and you hug a child you are a pedophile. You lost the right to show affection.

If you spank your child they will be taken away to a foster home (probably molested) and you will go to jail. You have lost the right to be a parent and discipline your child.

In a fight at school, there was no such thing as “no tolerance” policy. It use to be someone started it and someone defended. Now both are automatically punished. You just lost the right to defend yourself.

In many states mine included they passed laws that 60% of any property over a certain size (5 acres) had to be left Natural growth. You can not maintain it, cut the grass/weeks, you can not beautify it. This was so they could free up other land originally zones as natural growth for commercial.

If you own a pet even if it is in doors 24/7 or on a leash it must be licensed... for what? Besides having a state license we are now required to have a county license for pets and people are going door to door to check. seriously.

Praying in school/class/lunch is no longer allowed due to you might offend someone.

No nativity scenes are allowed on any state/government owned properties.

Motorcycle helmets. For YOUR protection but now you dont have a choice.

You want to add a light in your house? A new switch? a deck? Hot tub? Gazebo or??? You cant do it yourself, you need to hire someone who has a permit and pay them 10x what it would cost you to do it. Yes it's all in the name of safety. I have no idea how any of our parents, grandparents or anyone survived.

How long of a list do you want? This is barely the beginning.

There are many stories/scenarios like this out there and they are all pretty much right on. Yes there are exceptions to ever rule but now the rule is the exception.
HIGH SCHOOL — 1957 vs. 2009

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck’s gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack’s shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives — they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal’s office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy’s dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy’s sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy’s mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2009 - Pedro’s cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist.. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro’s English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2009 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents — and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny’s dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy .


Now onto taxes:

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax),
IRS Penalties (tax on topof tax),
Liquor Tax,
Luxury Tax,
Marriage License Tax,
Medicare Tax,
Property Tax,
Real Estate Tax,
Service charge taxes,
Social Security Tax,
Road Usage Tax (Truckers),
Sales Taxes,
Recreational Vehicle Tax,
School Tax,
State Income Tax,
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA),
Telephone Federal Excise Tax,
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax,
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax, Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax,
TelephoneState and Local Tax,
Telephone Usage Charge Tax,
Utility Tax,
Vehicle License Registration Tax,
Vehicle Sales Tax,
Watercraft Registration Tax,
Well Permit Tax,
Workers Compensation Tax.

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and there was prosperity, absolutely no national debt, the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.