Governor: All sources of power in Texas have been compromised

[Beetlegeuse]

Gov. Abbott: All sources of power in Texas have been compromised

OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 11:15 AM PT – Thursday, February 18, 2021

Texas officials gave an update on the ongoing power outages amid a historic winter storm. On Wednesday, Gov. Greg Abbott (R-Texas) said all sources of his state’s power were compromised by the freezing temperatures.

“Every source of power in the state of Texas has been compromised, whether it be renewable power, such as wind or solar,” Abbott stated. “Access to coal-generated power [and] access to gas generated power also have been compromised, whether it be with regard to systems freezing up or equipment failures.”



Un ... no.

Texas is in a world of shit because right before the cold snap hit, they were sourcing 42% of their electricity from windmills. And windmills and icing conditions do not get along.

The rotors on a typical large commercial wind mill are about 150 feet long. And optimum power output comes with the rotors turning at 50-60 RPMs. Which means although they don't look like they're going that fast, when they're turning those kind of revolutions, the rotor tips are moving at about 180 mph. And that makes for a shitload of centripetal force.

Which is hunky-dory, so long as the rotors remain in balance. The problem comes when they start collecting ice unevenly or shedding it unevenly. With a 300-foot diameter rotor spinning at a tip speed of 180 mph, a single ounce of difference in rotor weight results in an imbalance of 892 pounds of force (lbf). And two cubic inches of ice weighs about an ounce, so if the blades on a windmill start shedding big chunks of ice, it can get really interesting.



So the windmills all have brakes on them. When the imbalance starts, it causes a vibration. If the vibration gets bad enough, the shaking is supposed to trigger the brakes. Which usually works. And when it does, it saves the windmill but also can be the cause of people freeze to death.

So Texas went all in on green energy and now people are dying from their decisions. Congratufuckinglations.

Even the Wall Street Journal is ripping them a new asshole for it:

The Political Making of a Texas Power Outage

How bad energy policy led to rolling blackouts in the freezing Lone Star State.

... The problem is Texas's over-reliance on wind power that has left the grid more vulnerable to bad weather. Half of wind turbines froze last week, causing wind's share of electricity to plunge to 8% from 42%. Power prices in the wholesale market spiked, and grid regulators on Friday warned of rolling blackouts. Natural gas and coal generators ramped up to cover the supply gap but couldn't meet the surging demand for electricity -- which half of households rely on for heating -- even as many families powered up their gas furnaces. Then some gas wells and pipelines froze.

In short, there wasn't sufficient baseload power from coal and nuclear to support the grid. Baseload power is needed to stabilize grid frequency amid changes in demand and supply. When there’s not enough baseload power, the grid gets unbalanced and power sources can fail. The more the grid relies on intermittent renewables like wind and solar, the more baseload power is needed to back them up....



But at least Texas is in good company. Germany is the country most heavily invested in "renewables" and just last month they were forced to resort to rolling blackouts to keep their grid stable FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON. Too damn many windmills, and icing forced them to shut them all down during bitterly cold weather.

The irony is that just two years ago, the Germans were bragging that they were going to decommission all of their coal-fired power plants by 2034. The only reason they didn't have thousands of people freeze to death is because they turned all of their coal-fired power plants up to 11. Combined with the rolling blackouts, they were able to prevent mass casualties.

Last-Ditch Effort: Germany Weighs Electricity Rationing Scheme To Stabilize Its Now Shaky Green Power Grid

By P Gosselin on 19. January 2021

Is the German model America’s future?



Not only do the Germans pay 3x for electricity what the rest of Europe does, they can't manage to keep the lights on.

If you're eager to live a 19th-Century lifestyle, then Green Energy is just what you've been looking for.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

And when it does, it saves the windmill but also can be the cause of people freeze to death.

I just looked up the Wikipedia page on extremes of temperature by state in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._s...ature_extremes

And I'm surprised to see that Texas has gone all the way from -23 F to 120 F.

I was going to make the argument that nobody's ever frozen to death in Texas but obviously -23 F is cold enough for that.

[Cuz]

I just looked up the Wikipedia page on extremes of temperature by state in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._s...ature_extremes

And I'm surprised to see that Texas has gone all the way from -23 F to 120 F.

I was going to make the argument that nobody's ever frozen to death in Texas but obviously -23 F is cold enough for that.

Last i seen 21 people had died, couple that with a pandemic and its a living hell. Those people aren’t prepared for that kind of cold hell neither am I.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Last i seen 21 people had died, couple that with a pandemic and its a living hell. Those people aren’t prepared for that kind of cold hell neither am I.

Ireland had a freakish winter in 2010... it was 59 Fahrenheit for a few days... that was a whole new world of cold I'd never experienced before.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

But the fact of the matter is that wind turbines do work in the cold.
They just need to be winterized.

Texas didn't winterize their windmills even though this happened 10 years ago.


So it’s fair to ask: why don’t wind turbines fail all the time in colder climates, such as Canada, Sweden or the American Midwest?

The answer, in short, is that turbines in colder places are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, where the weather is almost never this cold, they usually are not.

“Cold weather kits can keep [wind turbines] operating when temperatures plunge. This is the norm in colder states and in Europe,” said Samuel Brock, a spokesman for the American Clean Power Association. “Historically in Texas, given the warm climate, it hasn’t been necessary.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottca...h=2c37beeb1f59

Winter-ready equipment can keep wind turbines running in very cold conditions
In Texas, it's rarely cold — which means these heating features are typically not installed. "Cold weather kits can keep [wind turbines] operating when temperatures plunge," said Spokesman Samuel Brock of the American Clean Power Association to Forbes. "This is the norm in colder states and in Europe."

"Historically in Texas, given the warm climate, it hasn't been necessary," added Brock.

Crucially, not all environments present the same challenges to wind turbines. In Canada, wind turbines may spend up to 20% of their time weathering winter months — so specialized "cold weather packages" are installed to keep crucial turbine components like the pitch and yaw motors, the gearbox, and battery warm, according to the Canadian government.

These additions can keep wind turbines going in bone-chillingly cold temperatures, down to -22ºF (-30ºC).

https://interestingengineering.com/w...l-cold-weather


Always look at from where you are getting your "news".
Do you trust OAN or an engineering website?

#fakenews


side note: Ted Cruz was so ashamed he felt the need to vacation in Cancun.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

By the way...

All the energy shut down in Texas.
Why?
Because it was cold and Texas didn't winterize.

Officials for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages most of Texas’ grid, said the primary cause of the outages Tuesday appeared to be the state’s natural gas providers. Many are not designed to withstand such low temperatures on equipment or during production.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weat...-extreme-cold/

#stoptheblame

[Hughinn]

By the way...

All the energy shut down in Texas.
Why?
Because it was cold and Texas didn't winterize.

Officials for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages most of Texas’ grid, said the primary cause of the outages Tuesday appeared to be the state’s natural gas providers. Many are not designed to withstand such low temperatures on equipment or during production.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weat...-extreme-cold/

#stoptheblame

I live just east of Dallas-Fort Worth and thats simply not the case at all.

Many locales, mine included fortunately didn't face rolling blackouts or outages at all.

It all depends on where from your part of the grid is supplied. San Antonio, Houston and Austin all get a big chunk of power from the west Texas windfarms that go from abilene to the new Mexico border. Anywhere that got power from the windfarms had difficulty. Most of the ones that didn't were fine. The difficulties were mostly due to the difficulties at the windfarms. And this same stuff happens to them in the north every winter. But Texas simply isn't used to it.
And as far as snow, few counties in Texas even own snow plows. Because they haven't needed them before. The biggest problem here has been with the water.

East Texas has several coal and gas power plants. Most of them stayed on line just fine.

Some if the wind turbines around places like Amarillo were built with cold weather packages. I know, because I've erected them before. But in southern Texas, they don't.

But it's never been this cold in Texas for this long in the 25years I've lived here. This shit reminds me of a winter I spent in Elko County Nevada in the late ninetys

[tarmyg]

This could have been a super interesting post around how/why/what happened and solutions to how-to-fix things (as solutions from colder climates obviously exist) but instead, it's a political shit fest from the forum's most negative curmudgeon. Imagine a thread where real questions and solutions are asked instead of just throwing shit around. You can not even post in the Guns thread (a thread I find super interesting) without focusing on political horseshit.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Well...

More than half of ERCOT’s winter generating capacity, largely powered by natural gas, was offline due to the storm, an estimated 45 gigawatts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director at ERCOT.

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The outages during this storm far exceeded what ERCOT had predicted in November for an extreme winter event. The forecast for peak demand was 67 gigawatts; peak usage during the storm was more than 69 gigawatts Sunday.

It’s estimated that about 80% of the grid’s capacity, or 67 gigawatts, could be generated by natural gas, coal and some nuclear power. Only 7% of ERCOT’s forecasted winter capacity, or 6 gigawatts, was expected to come from various wind power sources across the state.


Woodfin said Tuesday that 16 gigawatts of renewable energy generation, mostly wind generation, are offline and that 30 gigawatts of thermal sources, which include gas, coal and nuclear energy, are offline.

“It appears that a lot of the generation that has gone offline today has been primarily due to issues on the natural gas system,” Woodfin said during a Tuesday call with reporters.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weat...-extreme-cold/


So a senior director at ERCOT says that natural gas is mostly to blame...
And even if 100% of wind mills shut down that would only affect 7% of the winter electricity capacity.
(The Electric Reliability Council of Texas operates the electric grid and manages the deregulated market for 75 percent of the state.)

How can the whole thing be blamed on the 7%?

So you can believe someone who makes a living operating the electric grid... You know... an expert...

Or you can believe someone on the internet.

[Hughinn]

Well...

More than half of ERCOT’s winter generating capacity, largely powered by natural gas, was offline due to the storm, an estimated 45 gigawatts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director at ERCOT.

ADVERTISING

The outages during this storm far exceeded what ERCOT had predicted in November for an extreme winter event. The forecast for peak demand was 67 gigawatts; peak usage during the storm was more than 69 gigawatts Sunday.

It’s estimated that about 80% of the grid’s capacity, or 67 gigawatts, could be generated by natural gas, coal and some nuclear power. Only 7% of ERCOT’s forecasted winter capacity, or 6 gigawatts, was expected to come from various wind power sources across the state.


Woodfin said Tuesday that 16 gigawatts of renewable energy generation, mostly wind generation, are offline and that 30 gigawatts of thermal sources, which include gas, coal and nuclear energy, are offline.

“It appears that a lot of the generation that has gone offline today has been primarily due to issues on the natural gas system,” Woodfin said during a Tuesday call with reporters.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weat...-extreme-cold/


So a senior director at ERCOT says that natural gas is mostly to blame...
And even if 100% of wind mills shut down that would only affect 7% of the winter electricity capacity.
(The Electric Reliability Council of Texas operates the electric grid and manages the deregulated market for 75 percent of the state.)

How can the whole thing be blamed on the 7%?

So you can believe someone who makes a living operating the electric grid... You know... an expert...

Or you can believe someone on the internet.

Someone on the internet, who lives near three gas fired power plants, work in them for a living and none of them shut down. And I'm here. In the thick of it. Not in Boston

Some of those "experts" have political reasons for saying some shit too. How is the guy who made the decision to build all the windfarms going to admit fault in the windfarm ? At the end of the day, Texas wasn't prepared for the cold it almost never seen

It's no secret wind is less reliable. Stop trying to pretend it's not

[The Deadlifting Dog]

IMO: this is all very tragic

All Texas had to do was winterize their shit.
Fuck 30 gigawatts of thermal sources (out of 67), which include gas, coal and nuclear energy, are offline.


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weat...-extreme-cold/

So the wind turbines and the gas both got affected.

Wind power didn’t cause the Texas blackouts. But it wasn’t just fossil fuels, either

https://www.latimes.com/environment/...-boiling-point

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Someone on the internet, who lives near three gas fired power plants, work in them for a living and none of them shut down. And I'm here. In the thick of it. Not in Boston

Some of those "experts" have political reasons for saying some shit too. How is the guy who made the decision to build all the windfarms going to admit fault in the windfarm ? At the end of the day, Texas wasn't prepared for the cold it almost never seen

It's no secret wind is less reliable. Stop trying to pretend it's not

Sounds like you may be biased.
You obviously have a vested interest in the gas industry.

I am not saying we have to get rid of natural gas.
I am saying that the problem isn't the windmills.
The problem is Texas didn't winterize their shit.

[tootallshorty]

All I know is it's f'en cold here and going 2 days without power and water in 7° weather sucks for everyone, no matter who's fault it is. Everyone has an opinion but it only matters if it results in positive change, not winning an argument.

[Hughinn]

Sounds like you may be biased.
You obviously have a vested interest in the gas industry.

I've got a vested interest in keeping my power on.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Nearly 45% of the thermal power went down. (That means you natural gas.)
Consider yourself lucky.

Winterize your shit folks.

People were cheap and didn't properly build shit.
(this also happened 10 years ago)
People are looking to cast blame.
And Ted Cruz thought it was a good time to get out of Dodge.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

All I know is it's f'en cold here and going 2 days without power and water in 7° weather sucks for everyone, no matter who's fault it is. Everyone has an opinion but it only matters if it results in positive change, not winning an argument.

Sorry about your situation and for anyone affected.

I agree that positive change is needed so people don't suffer again.

IMO: People need to look at what failed and why it failed. It should be based on science and be as unbiased as possible. There are many other states that got hit with this exact same storm and they aren't suffering.
So... the question is... what do they do differently? IMO... they winterize their equipment.

[Test Monsterone]

Fox never misses a beat to blame libs for anything, even if it's factually wrong, as already proven. I know why they do this - because they are lobbied by big oil, and it's in big oil's interest to monopolize the power grid for $. In other words, lies for money. Make people believe wind mills are ineffectual.... even though Denmark thrives off of wind mills, and it's a lot colder there than Texas.

With that said, I think we should be using renewable energy sources as our primary source of energy, and have gas/fuel as a backup, or when extra power is needed... kinda like a home generator. It only makes sense... there is a finite amount of gas/fossil fuels, but there is infinite sunlight and wind. The entire reason Texas is in a frost is directly correlated to global warming (I know, it's a sore spot for many). Global warming is why there are so many fluctuations in temperature and the ice caps are melting. The polar winter wind patterns are changing at a rapid pace, so you get warm weather in Alaska and a freeze in Florida.

For those who work in the oil & gas field, I understand it must be frustrating to see things going the way of renewable energy. Things progress, and current technologies give way for better and cleaner technologies. That's how it's always been. It's better to stay ahead of the curve. There will be just as many jobs in renewable energy, if not more, as in oil & gas. Just have to prepare yourself for the future, like any other career. Remember, coal was once the main driving force of the world's industrialization. Can you imagine still boarding a train that runs on coal?

[wango]

I’ll side with the right here.

The liberals have the laser beam shooting satellite that they won’t share. Instead of pointing it towards Texas to help thaw the ice & snow, it’s only used to create forest fires in liberal states like California so that they can drain the country of funds when they ask for federal relief.

[Beetlegeuse]

Psyche!

FEMA Sends Wind and Solar—No, Wait, It's Sending Diesel Generators—to the Texas Winter Storm Zone

... I don’t even want to play “If a Republican had been president…” but the fact is, a Republican president would have been pilloried for not uttering a word several full days into a major crisis. CNN, which helped puff up Gov. Cuomo even after his nursing home policy likely sent thousands to COVID death, would have led the way. You’d have had to pry Shepard Smith away from a camera with a crowbar.

We’re now probably past the storm’s worst—before FEMA gear is making its way in. Central Texas finally gets above freezing today. It’s possible that Texas didn’t ask FEMA for support, and it’s likely that said support couldn’t have even gotten to most of the state. In case you missed the big headline, the entire state froze. The whole gigantic thing...


... You cannot surge wind power when demand surges. You cannot surge solar power when demand surges. The battery storage technology isn’t able to do that yet. (And battery tech isn’t all that clean either.)

You can surge natural gas and coal, and to an extent, you can surge nuclear.

But with everything frozen including the oil wells, and with coal plants having been taken offline over the past few decades, with production crashing in the Permian and the markets going haywire, the nation’s largest energy-producing state struggled to produce enough energy to stay warm. Think about that. Texas is a fossil fuel and wind superpower. But it froze. Texas wasn’t alone; there were and are outages elsewhere in other stricken states....


... The fact is, fossil fuels kept millions warm enough to survive a historic winter storm. It’s not so much a case of what failed when everything did, to one extent or another. It’s a question of baseline reliability and what do you want your family to know you can depend on when crisis strikes. Because it will. It’s only a matter of time and what the crisis is. The modern world still cannot escape nature....

[Cuz]

To be honest I think its stupid as fuck to argue which energy sources are better, im gonna use what works regardless.
I will say im very thankful my parents bought a house with a built in generac natural gas generator which was rather expensive but it kept the heat on. They were the only ones with power on the hillside for awhile

Hopefully lessons can be learned from this. Its really fuckin sad people had to fucking freeze to death in 2021...

At least Ted Cruz didnt , ole slick had him a warm Cancun paradise awaiting

[Test Monsterone]

Wouldn't it be nice to have a beautiful roof, that looks just like a roof, but is an array of solar panels that fuel 90-100% of your household's power needs? Maybe a couple of windmills on a hill somewhere to fill any gaps, and a gas generator in the back in case of emergencies. No gas or electric bills.

My 77 year old grandma has a little solar panel on her roof. It was installed 15 years ago when the area she built the house in didn't even have power/sewage/water yet. She has as all those things now, but that little panel was tied to the shower upstairs. I could only manage 1 shower before the water went cold, due to the storage limit on the battery. I'm sure if the battery was larger, I'd be able to take a few showers before the water went cold.

Had a couple of girlfriends in there with me trying to do shower activities when all of a sudden water went ice cold. Thank god for viagra.

[Honkey_Kong]

To be honest I think its stupid as fuck to argue which energy sources are better, im gonna use what works regardless.
I will say im very thankful my parents bought a house with a built in generac natural gas generator which was rather expensive but it kept the heat on. They were the only ones with power on the hillside for awhile

Hopefully lessons can be learned from this. Its really fuckin sad people had to fucking freeze to death in 2021...

At least Ted Cruz didnt , ole slick had him a warm Cancun paradise awaiting

That's the whole thing. They were prepared for this sort of thing. Regardless of how great we may think things are, there are always going to be events (disasters, bad weather, incidents) that will disrupt supply lines. Be it food, water, energy or just about everything else imaginable. It makes sense to prepare for these things ahead of time, rather than to be caught with your pants down in the moment. And of course what people can afford will dictate how prepared they can be, but even if it's just having a camping gas stove, extra blankets, some non perishable food and extra potable drinking water, it's a huge step in the right direction.

[wango]

Wouldn't it be nice to have a beautiful roof, that looks just like a roof, but is an array of solar panels that fuel 90-100% of your household's power needs? Maybe a couple of windmills on a hill somewhere to fill any gaps, and a gas generator in the back in case of emergencies. No gas or electric bills.

My 77 year old grandma has a little solar panel on her roof. It was installed 15 years ago when the area she built the house in didn't even have power/sewage/water yet. She has as all those things now, but that little panel was tied to the shower upstairs. I could only manage 1 shower before the water went cold, due to the storage limit on the battery. I'm sure if the battery was larger, I'd be able to take a few showers before the water went cold.

Had a couple of girlfriends in there with me trying to do shower activities when all of a sudden water went ice cold. Thank god for viagra.

Heading in that direction along with big-ass batteries in case of power outages.

[Honkey_Kong]

Heading in that direction along with big-ass batteries in case of power outages.

Batteries won't do you very much good if the temperature is too low.

[Beetlegeuse]

This is a data-rich article but I've only posted the most salient graphics. Follow the hotlink in the headline for all the details.

Cascend Strategy:
Data Shows Wind-Power Was Chief Culprit Of Texas Grid Collapse

Some more detail from Cascend which lays out the events of this week in sequence:

* A massive cold snap drove demand for electricity well beyond normal levels

* Wind power failed to deliver it’s expected power – almost 40% of expected power – in part due to lack of winterized wind turbines

* Natural gas (as always) made up the difference..

* ... but then suffered from lack of supply from non-winterized delivery

* Coal and nuclear both underperformed, but not by much, due to non-winterized equipment

* Solar underperformed for a few days but is back, although is far too intermittent to help without storage except during heat waves

* And Texas’ grid couldn’t buy enough power from neighbors to make up the difference

* Nor are power producers required to keep a reserve of power

The simple 5-step solution according to Cascend:

* Winterize equipment

* Require power reserve

* Connect the Texas grid better

* Add solar with storage (storage is key [and hideously expensive])

* And add more natural gas

As some others have summarized the Texas disaster best...

It is sad and ironic that in a state known for its huge petroleum and natural gas resources, the lack of reliability of wind power has brought the state to its knees in a time of crisis, not unlike that which California experienced in 2020 during record heat where wind and solar power could not keep up with demand and was near collapse.

The folly of chasing renewable energy as a means of mitigating “climate change” is making itself abundantly clear today in Texas. When will politicians wake up and realize that renewable energy almost always equates to unreliable energy?

[Beetlegeuse]

Global Warming Experts Were Too Busy Predicting Warmer Winters

for Texas to See the Snow

When you politicise the weather, then you can’t predict it.

... “[L]ow-income people of color” are dying of carbon monoxide poisoning because of a green energy grid with windmills that don’t turn, solar panels that don’t work under snow, and battery power which holds its charge in freezing temperatures about as well as your phone does.

Defying expectations and experts, Austin recorded its lowest temperature in 33 years and its deepest snowfall in 55 years. Warmer winters weren’t the future. The future was plowing through 6 inches of snow in a city that was expecting warmer, not colder weather.

The experts are back to crediting the snowstorm to ‘climate change’. Replacing God with Gaia means that every bit of weather is evidence of man’s sinful industrial nature. But up until last year, the Church of Climate Change had been predicting warmer winters and Democrat policymakers in Austin and in Texas cities controlled by the Democrats had counted on it...


... The snowstorm that hit Austin wouldn’t get a second glance in much of the country. But the difference is that Austin leaders and residents had absorbed the idea that they didn’t need to prepare for snow. They had been told, over and over again that the oracle of science had predicted that winters would be warm and that snow was becoming an artifact of the past.

Why get ready for a snowstorm that ‘science’ has told you will no longer be an issue?

Green Energy isn’t really green. The fundamental shift ushered in by so-called renewables is a move away from ‘brown energy’ and power supplies based on resources that can be mined, to ‘green energy’ which depends on the weather: on sunshine, on wind, and on tides. Weather is a much less reliable basis for an energy grid than coal, gas, nuclear, or any resource fuel.

What happened in Texas isn’t extraordinary. It’s inevitable.

When weather is your energy source, then your power grid depends on the weather. Environmentalists insist that global warming will make the weather more erratic and then propose that the solution is to switch over to power sources that depend on the weather.

That an argument so counterintuitive and self-contradictory could have become the basis for a trillion-dollar industry subsidized by taxpayers is a testament to the madness of the elites.

The Texas storm laid bare the paradoxes of green energy in swaths of white over every road.

The artificial boom of green energy has become another of those bubbles that is too big to fail. The imaginary crisis of global warming requires more subsidies for solar panels and wind turbines. The net effect of injecting more of that ‘green energy’ into a power grid is to make it less reliable and more prone to failure. The experts try to compensate for that with more solar panels and more wind turbines, and more batteries, while extending the grid even wider, so that there are more failure points, less reliable energy, and higher prices for whatever power you get.

This isn’t an accident. It’s a calculated strategy for lowering power usage by raising prices. And meanwhile the experts, the consultants, and the donor class cash in on the green subsidies...


... Millions lost power in Texas, as they had previously lost power in California, because the radicals want to change the economy. It’s about the political climate, not the actual climate.

That’s why environmentalist discourse easily shifts from forecasting a new age of warm winters to endless blizzards. The political prophecies of global warming have little to do with science. And they change as rapidly as the weather does, but they rarely keep up with the weather...


... Environmentalists have trashed America’s industries while promising to replace dirty energy with clean energy. But their energy isn’t clean and their finances are even dirtier. The new emerging green energy grid, funded and championed by Democrats at every level of government, is erratic, expensive, and unreliable.

Worse still, traditional weather forecasting models are being abandoned for political global warming models that forecast huge environmental changes. And that leaves cities, states, and the entire country unprepared when the weather doesn’t follow John Kerry’s memo.

The weather is apolitical. Rain and snow, sunshine and droughts don’t have a manifesto.

The Left politicised weather. Now our weather forecasting models have been rebuilt to follow their political predictions. And they’re becoming as worthless as Soviet agricultural forecasts.

The lesson of Texas is that when you politicise the weather, you won’t see the snow coming.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Global Warming Experts Were Too Busy Predicting Warmer Winters

for Texas to See the Snow

Shift blame much??

The post before this points out that all equipment failed because they weren't winterized.

This post puts the blame on Climate Change Experts.

News alert...
This shit happened 10 years ago.
And...
Everyone who reads up on climate change knows about less predictability in the weather.
And everyone who doesn't believe in climate change should note that this shit happened 10yrs ago.

So this stupid right wing write up is as good as a natural gas plant with no fuel to burn.

Texas is a red State.
Stop blaming the Democratic cities.

The entire fucking state failed.
And guess what?
The Republicans are in charge.

Texas is the only state that has an unregulated energy market.
Why?
Because it is a red state.

The Republicans are to blame.
But like true Trumplicants they don't take responsibility at all.

The entire fucking country got crushed by this storm and guess what...
The mighty, mighty don't tread on me state feared far, far worse than anyone.

Hopefully after they are done shifting blame they can actually learn from their mistakes.

[Honkey_Kong]

Global Warming Experts Were Too Busy Predicting Warmer Winters

for Texas to See the Snow

And so when is Governor Abbot going to admit he and his legislators fvuked up for not requiring the windmills from having de-icing equipment in place? When is he going to admit to fvuking up for not having enough natural gas for those plants? When is he going to admit that you can't allow crooks with essentially monopolies dictate policy?

There are only 2 things Abbot and everybody in the Texas government can do at this point:

1) Assume the blame for fvuking up.
2) Put together a plan that is independently verified to prevent something similar in the future.


Instead of throwing blame on the climate changing experts or whatever else they can to keep themselves out hot water, the people of Texas deserve accountability and more importantly they deserve this to be fixed.

[Hughinn]

And so when is Governor Abbot going to admit he and his legislators fvuked up for not requiring the windmills from having de-icing equipment in place? When is he going to admit to fvuking up for not having enough natural gas for those plants? When is he going to admit that you can't allow crooks with essentially monopolies dictate policy?

There are only 2 things Abbot and everybody in the Texas government can do at this point:

1) Assume the blame for fvuking up.
2) Put together a plan that is independently verified to prevent something similar in the future.


Instead of throwing blame on the climate changing experts or whatever else they can to keep themselves out hot water, the people of Texas deserve accountability and more importantly they deserve this to be fixed.

They'll do what establishment politicians always do, and blame it on something else.

Republicans blame it on "green energy" or "environmental activists"
Democrats blame everything on "racism" or "inequality" or the boogeyman.

Thats what they all do when they fuck up.

But I live right here where the shitbwent down and I can tell you this: talk all the leftist bullshit you want, but if you happen to buy your power from the right producers, your power stayed on.

I was here, I seen it first hand. If you were a member of a co op with its own little gas plant , more than likely your power stayed on. If you bought it from the big utility companies who produced it from coal gas or whatever, then maybe it stayed on maybe it didn't. If you lived in the cities, or in west or south Texas where the wind and solar farms are, you were shit out of luck.

Eyewitness observation

[Honkey_Kong]

They'll do what establishment politicians always do, and blame it on something else.

Republicans blame it on "green energy" or "environmental activists"
Democrats blame everything on "racism" or "inequality" or the boogeyman.

Thats what they all do when they fuck up.

But I live right here where the shitbwent down and I can tell you this: talk all the leftist bullshit you want, but if you happen to buy your power from the right producers, your power stayed on.

I was here, I seen it first hand.

I'm hardly a "leftist" so don't be throwing that trope around. I actually hate both sides to that false coin equally and if you noticed. I didn't call one person a "righty" or "lefty." They're all there. They all share the blame.

[Hughinn]

I'm hardly a "leftist" so don't be throwing that trope around. I actually hate both sides to that false coin equally and if you noticed. I didn't call one person a "righty" or "lefty." They're all there. They all share the blame.

You're right about that. And I wasn't trying label you brother. Sorry if it came off that way.

I can say this too, having personally erected wind turbines in the early 2000s in westbtexas and the panhandle. I can saybthat some of them around dumas and Amarillo did have the thermal heating packages installed. I can personally verify that, I seen it with my own eyes. They had de icing wiring in the blades and rotor cells. There was extra shitbto hook up and install, then test.

But none of them much further south than Amarillo had any of that. Because at the time, the weather trends and regulations didn't require it. Just like building codes change by region, so did those.

And with everyone howling about global warming non stop all the time, who seen a big freeze in the deep south coming?

It is what it is. Its nearly 70 degrees today. Normally in the 60s or so in February

[The Deadlifting Dog]

And with everyone howling about global warming non stop all the time, who seen a big freeze in the deep south coming?

First thing first... it happened 10 years ago.

And secondly... climate change scientists specifically talk about changes in the weather patterns... more extremes if you will... less predictability.
So the scientists had it right.

Global warming doesn't cause a uniform temperature change on Earth.
The global thermal dynamics or weather patterns or whatever it is called is very complex.

For example:
Last I saw the North East actually gets colder at first.
It has to do with the sea current changing.
(I could be totally wrong about this.)

[Hughinn]

First thing first... it happened 10 years ago.

And secondly... climate change scientists specifically talk about changes in the weather patterns... more extremes if you will... less predictability.
So the scientists had it right.

Global warming doesn't cause a uniform temperature change on Earth.
The global thermal dynamics or weather patterns or whatever it is called is very complex.

For example:
Last I saw the North East actually gets colder at first.
It has to do with the sea current changing.
(I could be totally wrong about this.)

So you're an expert on global warming then? Because I thought you were a bond salesman.

And no, it happened last week. At least the part I'm talking about did.

But, maybe you should be educating all these scientists that claim the weathers getting warmer. Because it's not getting warmer in Texas. Lol.

I do digress though, that unpredictable weather patterns are the primary culprit, more than green energy , politics or anything else. However, like it or not, wind and solar are less reliable. And thats just a fact. Doesn't mean we shouldn't use or invest in them. But my opinion is we need to be realistic about what they can really do.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So you're an expert on global warming then? Because I thought you were a bond salesman.

And no, it happened last week.

But, maybe you should be educating all these scientists that claim the weathners getting warmer. Because it's not getting warmer in Texas.

I do digress though, that unpredictable weather patterns are the primary culprit, more than green energy or anything else. However, like it or not, wind and solar are less reliable. And thats just a fact.

You obviously misunderstood me.
Texas had a massive ice and snow storm in 2011.

Winter storm blackouts plagued Texas in 2011, too. Recommendations made afterward went unenforced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

So Texans knew this shit happens in Texas.


And yes... the average global temperature is rising.
But that also means that the weather patterns can change.

But I am no expert.

Do you believe in man made climate change?

[Hughinn]

You obviously misunderstood me.
Texas had a massive ice and snow storm in 2011.

Winter storm blackouts plagued Texas in 2011, too. Recommendations made afterward went unenforced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

So Texans knew this shit happens in Texas.


And yes... the average global temperature is rising.
But that also means that the weather patterns can change.

But I am no expert.

Do you believe in man made climate change?

I've lived in Texas since 1996. I remember the 2011 snow and ice storm because I was here and seen it.

Aside from the wind turbines fucking up, like they always do, the problem was more about ice accumulation breaking trees and affecting power lines.
Again, I was here. I seen it. Ice accumulation was inches thick on almost every thing for a few days.

I guess that was global warming too huh? An ice storm?

It doesn't matter what I believe as far climate change. Because that's the new gospel of the fanatics now. Speak against it and your fucked

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I've lived in Texas since 1996. I remember the 2011 snow and ice storm because I was here and seen it.

Aside from the wind turbines fucking up, like they always do, the problem was more about ice accumulation breaking trees and affecting power lines.
Again, I was here. I seen it. Ice accumulation was inches thick on almost every thing for a few days.

I guess that was global warming too huh? An ice storm?

It doesn't matter what I believe as far climate change. Because that's the new gospel of the fanatics now. Speak against it and your fucked

How are you fucked???
Plenty of people don't believe in climate change.

I thought you feared no man who walks in this valley?
(Or something like that... not an exact quote.)

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But seriously, if you were there in 2011 and saw all that ice...
Then why on earth do you think they didn't prepare for ice again?
You know, winterize... just like pretty much the rest of the world does.

So again... do you believe in climate change?
And who are these fanatics of whom you speak?

side note: I am not a bond salesman. I am an independent trader.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Here is an easy read on climate change causing colder winter weather in Germany.

How global warming can cause Europe's harsh winter weather

Climate change, however, doesn't only lead to higher temperatures, but more extreme weather.

https://www.dw.com/en/cold-winter-gl...tex/a-56534450

for those who prefer visuals...

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[Hughinn]

You obviously misunderstood me.
Texas had a massive ice and snow storm in 2011.

Winter storm blackouts plagued Texas in 2011, too. Recommendations made afterward went unenforced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

So Texans knew this shit happens in Texas.


And yes... the average global temperature is rising.
But that also means that the weather patterns can change.

But I am no expert.

Do you believe in man made climate change?

I've lived in Texas since 1996. After leaving northern nevada and southern idaho I remember the 2011 snow and ice storm because I was here and seen it. I'm pretty sure at this point I'm likely a bit older than you are. Lol.

Aside from the wind turbines fucking up, like they always do, the main problem was more about ice accumulation breaking trees and affecting power lines.
Again, I was here. I seen it. Ice accumulation was inches thick on almost every thing for a few days.

I guess that was global warming too huh? An ice storm? Who knows?

It doesn't matter what I believe as far climate change. Because that's the new gospel of the fanatics now. Just like the boogeymen, Speak against it or in contradictory way of the existence of the boogeymen and your immediately dubbed a heretic to the modern fanatics. Marked for harassment, defamation and worse. Speak in favor of it, and no amount of zeal and dedication to the gospel is ever enough. Any notable person speaking in direct contradiction of the modern dogmas of the new religion must immediately apologize and admit wrongdoing, or face ruination.

The catholic church of the middle ages worked the same way with the devil and the flat earth. The similarities between the old world religions and the modern populist, political religion are striking. Even down to the ultimate goal. Liberal utopia-heaven on earth. One in the same. And the conform by force and persecution is the same. The idea that liberal mantra and gospel is meant to save mankind, or better it is the same. There is no reasoning with either.

"Global warming" is the fanatics excuse to save mankind from itself. I. E, save the world from Satan all over again.

I have no opinion on the matter. Past that anyway.

[Hughinn]

As the evidence piles up.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/texa...h-chuck-devore

[The Deadlifting Dog]

To counter a Fox Screws opinion piece...

Wind turbines can handle the cold just fine. Just look at Iowa.
Some Republicans want you to think wind turbines caused the Texas blackout. Here’s why they’re wrong.

https://www.vox.com/2021/2/19/222905...-grid-fox-news

Midwestern utility company MidAmerican Energy Company has shown that wind energy is highly reliable, even in harsh Iowa conditions. In 2020, 80 percent of the utility’s electricity was generated by renewable energy — the majority of which comes from its 3,300 wind turbines, said Geoff Greenwood, a spokesperson for MidAmerican Energy.

“This year it’s been cold, but our wind fleet continues to generate clean energy for our customers,” he said. All that’s needed is a few extra measures in the turbine design to make sure certain components don’t freeze up.

To think...
All they had to do was winterize...