The ever so increasing cost of petroleum

**Cuz** · 03-23-2021, 04:26 PM

So, why all of the sudden you may ask is gas prices out the ass and climbing?!? Well some think the president could be not helping matters. Ive attached an article trying to find out why in the hell my tank went from 30 to almost 60 in a matter of weeks

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-e...-joe-biden?amp

**Beetlegeuse** · 03-24-2021, 07:35 PM

Same thing happened the last time a demoncrat was in the Whitehouse (notice I didn't wan won the Whitehouse). Sheikh Obama (piss be upon him) drove gas up to more than $4 a gallon. Under the Trumpster, America became the world's largest exporter of petroleum and gas consistently was below $3 and sometimes less than $2.

Same shit, different demoncrat.

**Hughinn** · 03-24-2021, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse

Same thing happened the last time a demoncrat was in the Whitehouse (notice I didn't wan won the Whitehouse). Sheikh Obama (piss be upon him) drove gas up to more than $4 a gallon. Under the Trumpster, America became the world's largest exporter of petroleum and gas consistently was below $3 and sometimes less than $2.

Same shit, different demoncrat.

I believe that comes from the democrat party having a globalist ambition for world control.

Basically, sell out America to buy control of the whole world.

One only has to look at the vast amount of foreign money sponsoring democrat policy's.

They stopped even pretending thier policy was good for american people long ago.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 03-24-2021, 08:22 PM

You guys are really reaching for shit...

Hell... Trump oversees the biggest contraction in the US economy since the Great Depression and gas prices fall.
Hmmm...
Less people working... check.
Less people driving... check.
World is using less gas... check.
Prices go down... of course.

Credit to your chosen false idol... check.

Attachment 180912

Anyone ever take Econ 101 here?
Ever hear of supply and demand?

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-25-2021, 02:41 PM

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**ghettoboyd** · 03-26-2021, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse

Same thing happened the last time a demoncrat was in the Whitehouse (notice I didn't wan won the Whitehouse). Sheikh Obama (piss be upon him) drove gas up to more than $4 a gallon. Under the Trumpster, America became the world's largest exporter of petroleum and gas consistently was below $3 and sometimes less than $2.

Same shit, different demoncrat.

That is so not true we had $2.00 gas the last few years under Obama cus he bragged about it...it has nothing to do with the USA...OPEC is the enemy here and there ploys to reduce production so that oil sells for more than $0 a barrel that it was going for during trumps administration...so again let’s just stir up as much shit as possible...I’m starting to not want to be here anymore thanks to you and others...honestly what do you get from doing this?...I used to come here to talk bbing with my brothers but those days are over obviously...

**ghettoboyd** · 03-26-2021, 12:40 PM

I will give you that gas stayed cheap under trump because he got us producing our own oil something that most administrations didn’t do...

**Hughinn** · 03-27-2021, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

You guys are really reaching for shit...

Hell... Trump oversees the biggest contraction in the US economy since the Great Depression and gas prices fall.
Hmmm...
Less people working... check.
Less people driving... check.
World is using less gas... check.
Prices go down... of course.

Credit to your chosen false idol... check.

Attachment 180912

Anyone ever take Econ 101 here?
Ever hear of supply and demand?

False idols? Econ 101?

Sorta like joe biden preaching about "the cancer of corruption" at the same time his son is appointed to the board of a foreign gas company in ukraine. There's a false idol.

Then turning around, once "elected" president, shutting down american oil production and shifting sales back to foreign countries. That's supply and demand.

American oil production numbers shrink on the market. Less gas = higher price.

That's common sense 101. Lesson free of charge.

**Hughinn** · 03-27-2021, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

I will give you that gas stayed cheap under trump because he got us producing our own oil something that most administrations didn’t do...

Exactly. And Joe biden reducing that production is one of the reasons of rising gas prices.

**Test Monsterone** · 03-28-2021, 01:12 PM

"The unemployment rate has fallen on average under Democratic presidents, while it has risen on average under Republican presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents.[1][2] Ten of the 11 U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._e...can_presidents

You were saying?

**wango** · 03-28-2021, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

"The unemployment rate has fallen on average under Democratic presidents, while it has risen on average under Republican presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents.[1][2] Ten of the 11 U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._e...can_presidents

You were saying?

You’re always stirring sh*t up TM, seriously

Though it is for selfish & personal gain - have personally found our investments have done better under Democrats. We were really sweating it there after George W. & particularly after doing so well with Clinton. Thank you Obama, bring it on Joe.

Regarding gasoline, have always favored adding a mileage tax along with a tax for gas per gallon at the pump. How the hell else are we going to pay for our roads & bridges?

**Hughinn** · 03-28-2021, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by wango

You’re always stirring sh*t up TM, seriously

Though it is for selfish & personal gain - have personally found our investments have done better under Democrats. We were really sweating it there after George W. & particularly after doing so well with Clinton. Thank you Obama, bring it on Joe.

Regarding gasoline, have always favored adding a mileage tax along with a tax for gas per gallon at the pump. How the hell else are we going to pay for our roads & bridges?

The thing is wango, I know you're old enough to remember the democrat party of the 1970s and 80s.

Old school liberals were not willing to march lockstep with corporate interest and government power. They distrusted the man, and stood up for the working class.

The democrat party of today isn't the same at all. And you know that sir. They don't even pretend like thier policies are good for american people anymore. They go from one "social justice crusade" to the next to avoid talking about thier policies. They're bursting with foreign money and swimming in corruption.

These are not the democrat party of yesteryear. This is a global Communist movement in disguise.

**Hughinn** · 03-28-2021, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

"The unemployment rate has fallen on average under Democratic presidents, while it has risen on average under Republican presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents.[1][2] Ten of the 11 U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._e...can_presidents

You were saying?

The democrat party has lost the working class.

They know this. They know their policies are bad for the working class and bad for America They don't even pretend otherwise. They've simply gone about importing a new working class, and cozying up to corporate sponsoring.

The evidence is clear. The democrat party is the party of the wealthy elites. Few men who work for wages and use tools would support democrat policies. The democrat party has decided to not even try to win anyone over with policy. Instead, the have these bizzare social justice crusades to distract from thier policies and start importing a new working class.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailyyo...an/2020/12/09/

**wango** · 03-29-2021, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Hughinn

The democrat party has lost the working class.

They know this. They know their policies are bad for the working class and bad for America They don't even pretend otherwise. They've simply gone about importing a new working class, and cozying up to corporate sponsoring.

The evidence is clear. The democrat party is the party of the wealthy elites. Few men who work for wages and use tools would support democrat policies. The democrat party has decided to not even try to win anyone over with policy. Instead, the have these bizzare social justice crusades to distract from thier policies and start importing a new working class.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailyyo...an/2020/12/09/

I just don’t put enough stock in which class is for which party myself. There’s plenty of greedy d-bags for both the red and blue to make politics a lost cause imo.

Hey on a completely different topic, there is an HBO documentary on Q’Anon. But in the Los Angeles times this morning, the maker of the the documentary gave his opinion that he really thinks he knows who Q is. Holy crap, 8chan (where Q currently posts) is one crazy site.

**Hughinn** · 03-29-2021, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by wango

I just don’t put enough stock in which class is for which party myself. There’s plenty of greedy d-bags for both the red and blue to make politics a lost cause imo.

Hey on a completely different topic, there is an HBO documentary on Q’Anon. But in the Los Angeles times this morning, the maker of the the documentary gave his opinion that he really thinks he knows who Q is. Holy crap, 8chan (where Q currently posts) is one crazy site.

I've got to admit, I know very little about q anon. I've heard about them.

They're who the liberal networks blame everything on lately.

I should probably research it.

**Hughinn** · 03-29-2021, 09:13 AM

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**wango** · 03-29-2021, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Hughinn

I've got to admit, I know very little about q anon. I've heard about them.

They're who the liberal networks blame everything on lately.

I should probably research it.

I know very little myself & so far the documentary could be better, however the maker spent a lot of time/research on it and has been around the world trying to get answers. Meh, don’t care too much about the political element of it, just like to see how this stuff works.

Dropped a bunch on Amazon yesterday for books. I like to read both sides views. I have no idea about antifa, so going to start on that tomorrow. Trying to read on the history of the Middle East, but this book reads like an f’n textbook and is boring as hell.

**Hughinn** · 03-29-2021, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by wango

I know very little myself & so far the documentary could be better, however the maker spent a lot of time/research on it and has been around the world trying to get answers. Meh, don’t care too much about the political element of it, just like to see how this stuff works.

Dropped a bunch on Amazon yesterday for books. I like to read both sides views. I have no idea about antifa, so going to start on that tomorrow. Trying to read on the history of the Middle East, but this book reads like an f’n textbook and is boring as hell.

From what I've seen. It's not a group of people. It's a conspiracy theory, more or less.

Which sort of makes what I've seen on the new even more ridiculous.

Most of it's not anything new. If you remember the illuminati theories of the 80s and 90s this q stuff isn't alot different.

Some of it makes sense.

There's obviously a coordinated and organized push for globalist ambition from a number of different wealthy elite circles

Did you ever read the creature from jekyll island? The q stuff looks like a spin off a number of conspiracy theories. Some of them have been proven. Some not.

I'm struggling to understand how the DNC propoganda networks are blaming stuff on this q thing though.

**wango** · 03-29-2021, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hughinn

From what I've seen. It's not a group of people. It's a conspiracy theory, more or less.

Which sort of makes what I've seen on the new even more ridiculous.

Most of it's not anything new. If you remember the illuminati theories of the 80s and 90s this q stuff isn't alot different.

Some of it makes sense.

There's obviously a coordinated and organized push for globalist ambition from a number of different wealthy elite circles

Did you ever read the creature from jekyll island? The q stuff looks like a spin off a number of conspiracy theories. Some of them have been proven. Some not.

I'm struggling to understand how the DNC propoganda networks are blaming stuff on this q thing though.

I’m hesitant/reluctant to call it anything or even try to judge it. I personally am just trying to get a grasp of it / try to understand it. Once again, I’m not viewing it politically and not looking at it red vs. blue.

Yes, some of Q’s (or the followers) rhetoric it is a repeat of bs thrown out through history hundreds of years ago.

Couldn’t get into that book, tried, but a no-go for me.