Hitting the gear in 2 weeks

[BOOST]

Okay well I did the Test Cream for 60 days like my Doctor asked. I got nothing, maybe a little more sex drive. Anyway I am hitting my 1st cycle when I get back from vacation.

Stats
35
220lb
5/11
210 Test level

I have been training on and off for 5 years, heavy the last 6 months. Diet is clean, I am down 20lbs from 4 months ago. I will take before and after pictures. Cycle will be as follows.

1 CC per week of Sust 250
50MG Winny 6 weeks before cycle ends

PCT
HCG shots 4 weeks
Clomid

Wish me luck.

[Kale]

Boost I would do two shots of Sust a week. Make it 500mg a week instead of 250

[BOOST]

Boost I would do two shots of Sust a week. Make it 500mg a week instead of 250

How come?

[Kale]

Because I think you will get more out of 500mg, as well doing it twice a week will give you more constant hormone levels and the chance of side effects will be lower.

[BOOST]

Because I think you will get more out of 500mg, as well doing it twice a week will give you more constant hormone levels and the chance of side effects will be lower.

Kale I was thinking that I would have a higher chance of sides with more

So you are saying 2 CC'S per week, how long would this cycle be then?

[BADASS323]

BOOST,bro. i would take KALE's sugestion as gold.i've been on here for awhile now and he know's his shit.i personally wouldent worry too much about side's.set your cycle in stone and follow it!!if sides occur take the preventitive measures you have already prepared.i'm now entering week three of my first cycle 500mg test e with no sides.but i'm fully prepared in case they do arise...by the way"it's good too me you"...badass

[BADASS323]

kale,boost- i'm thinking i need to change my advitar,you guy's ROCK!!! by the way, i have 9 yes 9 thats, nine,kids,so i have to log on and off quite often,right now gotta take 2 of them to baseball...see ya

[BOOST]

BOOST,bro. i would take KALE's sugestion as gold.i've been on here for awhile now and he know's his shit.i personally wouldent worry too much about side's.set your cycle in stone and follow it!!if sides occur take the preventitive measures you have already prepared.i'm now entering week three of my first cycle 500mg test e with no sides.but i'm fully prepared in case they do arise...by the way"it's good too me you"...badass

What are your stats Bro and how is it going, did it kick in yet.

[Anabolios]

What are your stats Bro and how is it going, did it kick in yet.

the single ester test takes 4-5 weeks to really kick in....sust has 2 long esters and 2 short..if you shot 1 cc a week your blood levels would fluctuate ridiculously...sust is recommended to be shot eod...but twice a week would be MUCH better than once weekly..id run a cyp or enan ester if i were you and what is 4 shots of hcg ? how many iu's are your hcg amps?

[BADASS323]

boost,first off,i hope you know the chick in your advatar!! my stats? old, fat, and grumpy...lol

[BOOST]

the single ester test takes 4-5 weeks to really kick in....sust has 2 long esters and 2 short..if you shot 1 cc a week your blood levels would fluctuate ridiculously...sust is recommended to be shot eod...but twice a week would be MUCH better than once weekly..id run a cyp or enan ester if i were you and what is 4 shots of hcg? how many iu's are your hcg amps?

4 Shots 2 cc per shot.

Cyp or Enan not in the cards. Sust and Winny is what I have on hand, plan to use it.

The 2 shots per week sounds good, I was just going lower at 1cc as this is first time on injectable.

[BOOST]

boost,first off,i hope you know the chick in your advatar!! my stats? old, fat, and grumpy...lol

lol my old school teacher

How is cycle going.

[BADASS323]

i'm not sure on how it's going.eating like a pig,liftin like a madman!i've gained 4lbs. in 2 weeks & my chest is starting to look much better.thing is test-e dosent kick in till around weeks 4-6.so i'm not sure if it's the cycle or the extra effort...

[scerpico22]

boost what is your cycle history?


the sust should be shot EOD minimum E3D to take advantage of the short esters...long esters will not kick in until at least week 5. to take advantage of the long esters you should run the sust for 12 weeks.

there are a lot of threads on the site that go into more detail about the sust and how it works.

i am taking shooting 250 E3D because of the insight found on the site.

how are you planning the winny? this should be shot ED at 50mg to take avantage for 4 weeks

IMO

wk 1-12 Sust 125mg EOD (your weekly intake between 375 to 500)
wk 10-14 Winny 50mg ED (at very least EOD)

24hr after last winny start standard PCT

[Kale]

boost what is your cycle history?


the sust should be shot EOD minimum E3D to take advantage of the short esters...long esters will not kick in until at least week 5. to take advantage of the long esters you should run the sust for 12 weeks.

there are a lot of threads on the site that go into more detail about the sust and how it works.

i am taking shooting 250 E3D because of the insight found on the site.

how are you planning the winny? this should be shot ED at 50mg to take avantage for 4 weeks

IMO

wk 1-12 Sust 125mg EOD (your weekly intake between 375 to 500)
wk 10-14 Winny 50mg ED (at very least EOD)

24hr after last winny start standard PCT

Well put, thats exactly the way it should be done !!!

[Kale]

kale,boost- i'm thinking i need to change my advitar,you guy's ROCK!!! by the way, i have 9 yes 9 thats, nine,kids,so i have to log on and off quite often,right now gotta take 2 of them to baseball...see ya

Nine Kids !!!!!! Fark man you need to find out what causes that and fast

[scerpico22]

Nine Kids !!!!!! Fark man you need to find out what causes that and fast

or just buy a television....

[Kale]

or just buy a television....

Yep that will help a lot

[BADASS323]

t.v."s great...FOR PORN

[BOOST]

boost what is your cycle history?


the sust should be shot EOD minimum E3D to take advantage of the short esters...long esters will not kick in until at least week 5. to take advantage of the long esters you should run the sust for 12 weeks.

there are a lot of threads on the site that go into more detail about the sust and how it works.

i am taking shooting 250 E3D because of the insight found on the site.

how are you planning the winny? this should be shot ED at 50mg to take avantage for 4 weeks

IMO

wk 1-12 Sust 125mg EOD (your weekly intake between 375 to 500)
wk 10-14 Winny 50mg ED (at very least EOD)

24hr after last winny start standard PCT

This will be my first cycle, I was on Test cream and got nothing from it at all.That imo is just a HRT replacement. E3D I am not sure what this means? I have Winny Injectable and Pills. I was going to just do the Winny pills last 4 weeks of Sust Cycle. I was going to use the Injectable Winny I have, but some of this site said do the orals If I go with 2 shots of Sust per week and then a Winny shot, we are talking 3 shots per week

So this looks better to you
2 CC'S per week of Sust
1 CC per week of Winny last 4 weeks of Sust Cycle

Last injection, PCT 24 hours later of Clomid and HCG shots.

[scerpico22]

This will be my first cycle, I was on Test cream and got nothing from it at all.That imo is just a HRT replacement. E3D I am not sure what this means? I have Winny Injectable and Pills. I was going to just do the Winny pills last 4 weeks of Sust Cycle. I was going to use the Injectable Winny I have, but some of this site said do the orals If I go with 2 shots of Sust per week and then a Winny shot, we are talking 3 shots per week

So this looks better to you
2 CC'S per week of Sust
1 CC per week of Winny last 4 weeks of Sust Cycle

Last injection, PCT 24 hours later of Clomid and HCG shots.

first cycle would best be served as 500mg test/wk for 12wks - then standard PCT

test e, or test c

hit up the the AS - Q and A forum..there is a sticky on there for newbies first cycles...this would suit you best IMO - not everyone has a chance to that that first cycle again!

is your diet and training in order?

[BOOST]

first cycle would best be served as 50mg test EW (every week) for 12wks

test e, or test c

hit up the the AS - Q and A forum..there is a sticky on there for newbies first cycles...this would suit you best IMO - not everyone has a chance to that that first cycle again!

is your diet and training in order?

Diet and training are there and have been for well over 6 months.

[Kale]

first cycle would best be served as 500mg test/wk for 12wks - then standard PCT

test e, or test c

hit up the the AS - Q and A forum..there is a sticky on there for newbies first cycles...this would suit you best IMO - not everyone has a chance to that that first cycle again!

is your diet and training in order?

OK Boost you asked for input. What Scerpico says is the standard first cycle protocol. Only one AAS required. Test E Or Test C is best but if you cant get that and already have the Sust then go with that, but do 12 weeks and 500mgs a week and drop the Winny, you dont need it for your first cycle. Break the Sust in two shots a week if your arnt prepared to do it EOD.

Thats it, simple and effective.

Standard PCT at the end of course to start 18 days after the last Sust shot

[scerpico22]

OK Boost you asked for input. What Scerpico says is the standard first cycle protocol. Only one AAS required. Test E Or Test C is best but if you cant get that and already have the Sust then go with that, but do 12 weeks and 500mgs a week and drop the Winny, you dont need it for your first cycle. Break the Sust in two shots a week if your arnt prepared to do it EOD.

Thats it, simple and effective.

Standard PCT at the end of course to start 18 days after the last Sust shot

yea what he said

so yes boost, if you cant get the test e or c just go with the sust at least twice a week, 250mg each shot every monday and thursday (drop the winny regardless) - but IMHO i would hold on to the sust put it away for next time.

your diet and training have been in order for 6months so you understand patience...go find some test and you will reep mad benefits...shooting sust twice a week is like wasting half of each amp. - you will some benefits but your not maximizing the gear...

but again, this is just my 0.02

good luck bro!

[BOOST]

Okay started. Took your advice and doing 2 shots per week of Sust 250mg each. This will put me at 500mg per week. Can I run Winny right along side with the Sust, or should I just add it the last 10-14 weeks of Sust Cycle. I have Winny pills or Injectable, which is better. One last thing, on PCT is there a simple way, I hate to think I need clomid(night mares) and HCG and Nolva. Any simpler way??

THX Bro's

[TheSentinal]

Boost - do you have any anti-e's for the cycle?

[BOOST]

Boost - do you have any anti-e's for the cycle?

No I have Sust, Winny Injectable and Winny Tabs. Maybe next time around, already in so I need to run with it.

[Anabolios]

No I have Sust, Winny Injectable and Winny Tabs. Maybe next time around, already in so I need to run with it.

guys are you kidding? you were talking about doing winny once a week....AWFUL and you cant say "oh ill get anti e's next time around" your next cycle might be a gyno reversal cycle...do you have your pct?....im gonna stop talking because youre obviously far from ready

and didnt you know you can drink your injectable winny....sheesh

[BOOST]

guys are you kidding? you were talking about doing winny once a week....AWFUL and you cant say "oh ill get anti e's next time around" your next cycle might be a gyno reversal cycle...do you have your pct?....im gonna stop talking because youre obviously far from ready

and didnt you know you can drink your injectable winny....sheesh

You were lots of help, thanks