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    45 and lovin' it!

    hey all,
    a fairly new member I have been studying the boards for a few months, I just started getting active with the threads. some stats: I'm 45 and been training off and on most of my life, 5'10" 199# with approx 11.5%bf.
    I have been training consistently for over 2 yrs.(due to a long lay-off from a back injury) on a five day split and 4-5 day cardio routine of @5mi/day. been eating clean for alittle over a year.
    tried orals my first cycle d-bol/whinny for 10 weeks, did it with dr. supervision (patient confidentiality is a great thing) threw my liver function numbers all out of whack. however, gains were awesome, i put on 20 lbs. of lean mass and experienced weekly strength gains.
    I had been suffering severe wrist pain, decided to keep the weight down and increase reps. all was fine. 5 weeks ago I started a less toxic (non oral) cycle eq 400/wk, test cyp 500/wk and just this last week added trenbolone at 300/wk as well as nolva 20/day. this cycle was recommended by some training buddies and seems to be working great, however, all comments greatly appreciated (still a newbee)
    i guess my need for advice came in to play significantly this past weekend,according to my doc i tore my flexor tendon in my left wrist!
    and have to be off lifting for at least 3 weeks with hopes of healing or an mri...I dont know what to do about being mid cycle??? I,m still training legs and abs and doing cardio. do i keep up the regime, lower dosages or stop and begin pct? anyone with experience please reply.

    side note: all blood tests prostate, hdl/ldl & liver function great. slight increase in bp but nothing to be concerned over.

    THANKS in advance,
    PEACE
    Joe

    ps: great post AJAX

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    just keep on training like u do, it ll be ok.

    btw: don t use nolva during the cacle if you don t have any signs of gyno!

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    preciate it

    thanx for the response, no signs gyno, i will discontinue...is it necessary for pct if i have no signs?

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    use in PCT is good, not in cycle with tren ...

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    grateful

    this site is awesome! thanks again for the responses
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    I'm glad to say that at 45, there are girls as young as 15 on MySpace telling me that I don't look my age....LOL Thanks to 22 years of pumping iron, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosen1
    I'm glad to say that at 45, there are girls as young as 15 on MySpace telling me that I don't look my age....LOL Thanks to 22 years of pumping iron, of course.
    I am 52, my avi is my GF, she is 26 Thank God for juice is all I can say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    I am 52, my avi is my GF, she is 26 Thank God for juice is all I can say
    Snap ... except I am 52 1/2 and my GF in my avi is 27 (pretty close to Kale)

    Bring on the juice!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulzane
    Snap ... except I am 52 1/2 and my GF in my avi is 27 (pretty close to Kale)

    Bring on the juice!!
    Dude maybe we should show him our pics

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    love to see them, all motivation is good...but dont leave out the GF pics. little extra motivation LOL

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    This to chosen. Are you a perv? 15 year old girls. If you have kids they are most likely around that age! Wtf Are you registered? I would not have posted that if I was l you!

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    Good job old man. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by massattack
    This to chosen. Are you a perv? 15 year old girls. If you have kids they are most likely around that age! Wtf Are you registered? I would not have posted that if I was l you!
    Who the hell cares? It sounded like a joke to me...

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    chill massattack.
    its all good right?

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    i wish this 'over 30 forum' would be more active(more recent posts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by massattack View Post
    This to chosen. Are you a perv? 15 year old girls. If you have kids they are most likely around that age! Wtf Are you registered? I would not have posted that if I was l you!
    Read his post. Read the thread.

    He is saying that he looks good for his age. Is he registered, duhhh, they know his age.

    Chill pill dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sphincter View Post
    use in PCT is good, not in cycle with tren...
    Why not nolvo on tren cycle?

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    i just turned 30 . anything i need to add to my workout?

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    im so inspired by you guys. I hope im just like you one day. Im 26 and i bang 18 year olds. when im 50 i hope im bangin 26 year olds! I think workin out and takin vitamins and "vitamins" keeps ya young. Everyone thinks im 18 or 20. baby face

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    You do not need to squat! Leg press only.

    Here you go. I posted this in another section. Rattles the squataholics. They unite and chant "you must squat, you must squat" causes a release of hormones, good for making my arms grow blah, blah, blah. I'm closing in on 46 years of life. 3 severly ruptured disc. Broke my left knee cap in 2 places 3.5 years ago. When the cast came off I had a withered 23" left leg. All I can do for quads is leg press, nothing else. It has been that way for 10+ years. My legs have never looked better. I'm a classic ectomorph with bad genetics. I never train uncovered. People never see my legs. They have observed me training them. Occasionnaly I show up in shorts. Just to ease their curiosity. I wrote this to explain to an interested party on how I train. Yes leg presses only. Im 6' tall 232 in one photo with supplementation and nutrition not an immediate concern (off season). 220 in the other photo supplementation and nutrition spot on. 10 weeks seperate one look from the other. Don't despair if you can't squat and please do not give up. I have high adductor tie-ins and high calfs.

    Due to my back injury and diagnosed tendonitis in both knees, I start my quadriceps training with the back pad of the leg press machine upright in the 90-degree position. This allows me to keep my back perfectly flat, and I can generate the most power from this angle. My feet are placed high and wide. I consider this to be my power position (“power stance”), utilizing not only my quadriceps but also my hamstrings, glutes and adductor muscles. I’m not trying to directly stress any particular area of the quadriceps. I want total area development. Remember, though, that leg pressing is primarily considered a quadriceps movement. I allow my knees to track outward toward my armpits when the weight is descending, while I keep my back flat against the pad. I want heavy weight and higher reps, the number of which decreases with weight increase, never going below 12 reps. For my last 2-3 sets, I place my feet lower and closer together on the platform. Doing so increases the difficulty of the exercise, so I adjust the weight downward, to be able to attain my desired rep range, usually 15-20 reps per set. Muscle responds to stress created, not sheer poundage. When the weight is decreased from 900 pounds to 700 pounds, it doesn’t mean that the exercise just got easier. My range of motion will be less with my feet closer and lower than when I am in my “ power stance.” I do not let my knees track over my feet. If you’re watching, it will appear to you that I’m doing a legal press. Understand that even though my training is adapted to my injuries, my legs have never looked better. One exercise, maximum effort, then rest for a week. An example of one of my workouts: On leg day, I think about the workout all day. I know that this bodybuilding day is going to be more painful and more hazardous to my gym longevity then any other workout day. From the time that I slide into that leg press until the last set, I become an aggressive animal, not willing to accept failure and believing that on this day I will set a personal best. For example, recently the first set that I was willing to count was 8 plates on each side for 37 reps. When I was done with the set, with my heart rate 150+, and my hands cramped from holding on to the ass pad of the machine to keep myself locked in nice and tight, I was Fu@#king pissed that I pussed out and did not go for 40, after coming so close! Then I did 9 plates for 25, 10 plates for 20, 11 and a nickel – 1000 lbs. even – for 2 sets of 12. Back down to 8 plates, feet lower, for 2 sets of 20 reps. Totals: 7 sets, 146 repetitions, not counting warm-ups, 3 to 5 minutes of rest between working (post-warm-up) sets; workout time 1 to 1.5 hours. When done, I thank God that I do not have to do that again for 7 days. This is an actual workout performed within the last six weeks. One exercise, maximum effort, then allow the quads to rest and repair for days. I usually alternate a heavy leg press workout, such as above, in one week, with a slightly lighter one the next week. The alternating one relies heavily on rest-pause technique. An example of a rest-pause workout: feet high and wide (power stance), eight plates per side after thoroughly warming up, five sets, each 15-20 reps, a slow, controlled negative, full range of motion, pause in the hole, a complete stop then drive it out, and repeat for each rep. I find that this alternation of weight-generated stress on the muscle with explosive (rest-pause-drive) stress on the quads stimulates growth and the development of more strength and endurance for the heavy workouts. I use this technique for other muscle groups, as well. I have done the same for clients whom I have trained, and it works very well. However, I am not an advocate of high-rep training for the upper body.
    Calf and hamstring are worked separately, and seldom on quad day. Yes, I have competed many times in the past. I am a hard gainer who has learned through trial and error what is best for me. I also would emphasize that the weights and reps that I mention above are effective for me, but the principles will work for anyone! It is crucial not to get hung up with the ideas that a certain amount of weight promotes growth for anyone, and that a lesser amount is not effective. Strength depends on the individual. You may use three plates instead of eight, and generate the stress required to promote growth for you, at a particular stage in your development. It is the method, not the poundage, that matters. For example, you will get more benefit if you are able to warm up, then do three plates for forty, four plates for thirty, five plates for twenty, and six plates for two or three sets of 12 to 15, drop the weight to four or five plates, and finish with two sets of twenty, than if you do eight plates for five or more sets of 6 to 8 reps. I have trained with partners who insisted upon matching my weight levels, believing that otherwise they were not lifting heavy enough. In fact, unless they were at the same strength level as I was, they ended up (1) sacrificing form for poundage, (2) failing to reach their desired rep ranges, or (3) injuring themselve. Once again, the body only knows stress on the muscles, not how many pounds you put on the leg press machine. Your muscles can’t read the pound numbers on the plates. By the way, I do no cardio, and get shredded using only intense lifting, which elevates my metabolism, and strict dieting for at least 12 weeks pre-contest, with 6 to 8 meals per day, also raising my metabolism, and manipulation of only carb intake for fat loss.
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    Great wheels, great post, great motivator....thx

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    Nice post, squats are murder on my back.....Your legs look great!!

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    ****in' awsome legs! Gotta try that workout, bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by ergo View Post
    Here you go. I posted this in another section. Rattles the squataholics. They unite and chant "you must squat, you must squat" causes a release of hormones, good for making my arms grow blah, blah, blah. I'm closing in on 46 years of life. 3 severly ruptured disc. Broke my left knee cap in 2 places 3.5 years ago. When the cast came off I had a withered 23" left leg. All I can do for quads is leg press, nothing else. It has been that way for 10+ years. My legs have never looked better. I'm a classic ectomorph with bad genetics. I never train uncovered. People never see my legs. They have observed me training them. Occasionnaly I show up in shorts. Just to ease their curiosity. I wrote this to explain to an interested party on how I train. Yes leg presses only. Im 6' tall 232 in one photo with supplementation and nutrition not an immediate concern (off season). 220 in the other photo supplementation and nutrition spot on. 10 weeks seperate one look from the other. Don't despair if you can't squat and please do not give up. I have high adductor tie-ins and high calfs.

    Due to my back injury and diagnosed tendonitis in both knees, I start my quadriceps training with the back pad of the leg press machine upright in the 90-degree position. This allows me to keep my back perfectly flat, and I can generate the most power from this angle. My feet are placed high and wide. I consider this to be my power position (“power stance”), utilizing not only my quadriceps but also my hamstrings, glutes and adductor muscles. I’m not trying to directly stress any particular area of the quadriceps. I want total area development. Remember, though, that leg pressing is primarily considered a quadriceps movement. I allow my knees to track outward toward my armpits when the weight is descending, while I keep my back flat against the pad. I want heavy weight and higher reps, the number of which decreases with weight increase, never going below 12 reps. For my last 2-3 sets, I place my feet lower and closer together on the platform. Doing so increases the difficulty of the exercise, so I adjust the weight downward, to be able to attain my desired rep range, usually 15-20 reps per set. Muscle responds to stress created, not sheer poundage. When the weight is decreased from 900 pounds to 700 pounds, it doesn’t mean that the exercise just got easier. My range of motion will be less with my feet closer and lower than when I am in my “ power stance.” I do not let my knees track over my feet. If you’re watching, it will appear to you that I’m doing a legal press. Understand that even though my training is adapted to my injuries, my legs have never looked better. One exercise, maximum effort, then rest for a week. An example of one of my workouts: On leg day, I think about the workout all day. I know that this bodybuilding day is going to be more painful and more hazardous to my gym longevity then any other workout day. From the time that I slide into that leg press until the last set, I become an aggressive animal, not willing to accept failure and believing that on this day I will set a personal best. For example, recently the first set that I was willing to count was 8 plates on each side for 37 reps. When I was done with the set, with my heart rate 150+, and my hands cramped from holding on to the ass pad of the machine to keep myself locked in nice and tight, I was Fu@#king pissed that I pussed out and did not go for 40, after coming so close! Then I did 9 plates for 25, 10 plates for 20, 11 and a nickel – 1000 lbs. even – for 2 sets of 12. Back down to 8 plates, feet lower, for 2 sets of 20 reps. Totals: 7 sets, 146 repetitions, not counting warm-ups, 3 to 5 minutes of rest between working (post-warm-up) sets; workout time 1 to 1.5 hours. When done, I thank God that I do not have to do that again for 7 days. This is an actual workout performed within the last six weeks. One exercise, maximum effort, then allow the quads to rest and repair for days. I usually alternate a heavy leg press workout, such as above, in one week, with a slightly lighter one the next week. The alternating one relies heavily on rest-pause technique. An example of a rest-pause workout: feet high and wide (power stance), eight plates per side after thoroughly warming up, five sets, each 15-20 reps, a slow, controlled negative, full range of motion, pause in the hole, a complete stop then drive it out, and repeat for each rep. I find that this alternation of weight-generated stress on the muscle with explosive (rest-pause-drive) stress on the quads stimulates growth and the development of more strength and endurance for the heavy workouts. I use this technique for other muscle groups, as well. I have done the same for clients whom I have trained, and it works very well. However, I am not an advocate of high-rep training for the upper body.
    Calf and hamstring are worked separately, and seldom on quad day. Yes, I have competed many times in the past. I am a hard gainer who has learned through trial and error what is best for me. I also would emphasize that the weights and reps that I mention above are effective for me, but the principles will work for anyone! It is crucial not to get hung up with the ideas that a certain amount of weight promotes growth for anyone, and that a lesser amount is not effective. Strength depends on the individual. You may use three plates instead of eight, and generate the stress required to promote growth for you, at a particular stage in your development. It is the method, not the poundage, that matters. For example, you will get more benefit if you are able to warm up, then do three plates for forty, four plates for thirty, five plates for twenty, and six plates for two or three sets of 12 to 15, drop the weight to four or five plates, and finish with two sets of twenty, than if you do eight plates for five or more sets of 6 to 8 reps. I have trained with partners who insisted upon matching my weight levels, believing that otherwise they were not lifting heavy enough. In fact, unless they were at the same strength level as I was, they ended up (1) sacrificing form for poundage, (2) failing to reach their desired rep ranges, or (3) injuring themselve. Once again, the body only knows stress on the muscles, not how many pounds you put on the leg press machine. Your muscles can’t read the pound numbers on the plates. By the way, I do no cardio, and get shredded using only intense lifting, which elevates my metabolism, and strict dieting for at least 12 weeks pre-contest, with 6 to 8 meals per day, also raising my metabolism, and manipulation of only carb intake for fat loss.
    I injured myself squatting and deadlifting 8 years ago, i am finally back in training and no i will never do theses lifts again, i just turned 36 years old.

    I have 2 discopathy L4L5 and L5S1 dark disk with loss of signal, i am on a strict diet, lots of PT exercises for core and more.

    My PT told me that when i am back i will be back 100% and can give squatting a try, forget it really.

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