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    use cyp all year 100mg perweek, off PCT?

    been cycling, prop, deca , sus, cyp and dbol for the last two to three years in different stacks depending on what my goal was. ran cyp all year cause of my age , 50, at 100 per week, (went off any and all stacks ) and got off balance and out of control due to a personal bad relationship so was doing cyp all over the place (after looking back at my journal) it was a fuc*ed up a major rollercoaster, Now I am off cyp, I waited 18 days to start a PCT hopeing to get my hormones back in check, I am using 70mg clomi and 20 Tomax. right now and not doing any cyp what so ever. am I am on the right track here? the beginning of the 18 days off cyp was a bitch the clomi makes me emotional during the day and a bitch come evening, the Tomax I like. advice would b greatly appreciated.no sex drive at all, I have dropped about 10 lbs but my lifting is great and I look really bigger than when I had the 10 lbs on me.

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    How long are you going to run the PCT for ? I think at your age you will find it very difficult to restart your natty production, and even if you do I think your production will be very low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    How long are you going to run the PCT for ? I think at your age you will find it very difficult to restart your natty production, and even if you do I think your production will be very low.
    How about HCG ? with running gear for extended periods there is the risk of permanent shutdown but I have always wondered if HCG can reverse this if built into an extended PCT.

    What about if he had run HCG every few months, would that have increased his chance of recovery too? rather then just nut bulking.....

    Basically I wonder if HCG is a viable solution to permanent shutdown if used correctly......

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodgerj View Post
    How about HCG ? with running gear for extended periods there is the risk of permanent shutdown but I have always wondered if HCG can reverse this if built into an extended PCT.

    What about if he had run HCG every few months, would that have increased his chance of recovery too? rather then just nut bulking.....

    Basically I wonder if HCG is a viable solution to permanent shutdown if used correctly......
    Interesting thought, and to be honest, I have no idea. Whats more I dont want to find out I do HCG every six months or so just to get the balls full again but thats about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodgerj View Post
    How about HCG ? with running gear for extended periods there is the risk of permanent shutdown but I have always wondered if HCG can reverse this if built into an extended PCT.

    What about if he had run HCG every few months, would that have increased his chance of recovery too? rather then just nut bulking.....

    Basically I wonder if HCG is a viable solution to permanent shutdown if used correctly......
    With reference to your last statement, i don't think thats possible, but i could be wrong.
    HCG does not restore natural testosterone production.
    HCG gives a sharp rise in testosterone and estrogen due to aromatisation, so using HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA, this doesn't aid recovery.

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    Hey Lats60 thanks for your comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    With reference to your last statement, i don't think thats possible, but i could be wrong.
    HCG does not restore natural testosterone production.
    HCG gives a sharp rise in testosterone and estrogen due to aromatisation, so using HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA, this doesn't aid recovery.
    That is very interesting.... So really the danger in long term use of gear is the anterior pituitary gland ceasing to produce any leutenizing hormone? rather then no test production which is actually the side effect?

    Your comments forced me to read up on HCH a little more and it seems that the only real use for it is to bulk up the boys. It's the clomid or nolva that stimulate the LH production.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodgerj View Post
    That is very interesting.... So really the danger in long term use of gear is the anterior pituitary gland ceasing to produce any leutenizing hormone? rather then no test production which is actually the side effect?

    Your comments forced me to read up on HCH a little more and it seems that the only real use for it is to bulk up the boys. It's the clomid or nolva that stimulate the LH production.....
    I concur, thats my understanding of the drug.

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