1st cycle, age 72

[fred88]

I'm blessed in that I have no physical problems other than bifocals. Have run and played highly competitive tennis for 40 years. Blood pressure 125/75-80 controlled by using a calcium channel blocker. PSA is in the range of "1" though I do have a slightly enlarged prostate. Took dutusteride (anavar ?) for
about 6 months but got slight breast enlargement. Tests proved negative including a mammogram! I'm 5'7" weight 160 lbs. Considered very strong if you
count 30 chinups, 30 pullups every other day plus plenty of body core work. I am an internationally known competition shooter who remains in the top 10 though it gets more difficult i.e. balance and reflex speed controlling trigger. What I would like to do is simply add about 5 to 10 lbs. max. in legs and lower
body. I read of cycles using winstrol and equipoise as it contended they have lower potentials for problems i.e. someone my age. I would greatly appreciate
your thoughts and comments.

fred

[Big]

Welcome, I would bet that you would qualify for hrt/trt through your doctor, have you considered that?

[fred88]

Big O, my testosterone is at about 650 as I recall during the dutusteride "flap", hence no hope for my Veterans Administration Doc to assist, though he is a decent Doc the mere hint of using steroids some time back resulted in a
negative gloomy reply. He's a chubby fellow, spotted him at
a casino cranking away with a cig. dangling from his lips. Thanks for your
suggestion but I'm on my own re: this deal. By the way, the standing position
for the rifle is much leg and lower body strength dependant.

fred

[BG]

Is through the vet the only insurance you have ?? If not I would look for a new doctor, took me over a year and 6 doctors until I found the right fit.

Hows your joints, especially playing tennis. Im 34 and winny gives me tendonistis every time. I still use it, but it hurts pretty bad and I can only run it for 4 weeks.

Like Big said, test would be the best to throw on what size your looking for, winny just hardens me up and gives me great strength.

My thoughts on what you should use, test/deca . Hows your diet and what kind of training do you do??Youll need both of those to gain anything. GH might is also something that would benefit you greatly, your levels are most likely very low.

[fred88]

BG, thanks for replying. Yes, the VA is my only, and free, medical service. However, my background is biochemistry and I'll somehow get whatever is required. My joints must be ok as I have signs of arthritis. Re: test, fellow shooter has had trouble controlling his weight for the past few years, tested very low on test, Doc. gives 2.5ml Test C every three weeks. Just started that program. As to the weight I'm seeking
is increasing lower body muscle to a max of 10lbs, upper body looks good and I don't want additional tissue there as there is a body of thought that additional tissue can effect your motor analyzer
systems, something you have spent years to develope. In rifle competition you "makes
your money" re: your scores in the offhand (standing) position. Training, 30 minutes cardio every other day, several miles hiking in mtns with dog daily. Every muscle group
every 4th day, much, much stress on stomach, back, hips, legs, coupled with balance
exercises. I am grateful that I'm able to do so much compared to other folks much younger than myself. You report on winny giving great strength and hardness is ideally
what I'm looking for. My "suggested" 10 lbs weight increase in legs could actually be
supplanted by increased strength. I will look into the GH factor at a local lab. Again, thanks for your ideas. (The Test C at 2.5ml weekly is a possibility though I'm not looking
for any unusual mass) I do recall that as a 17 year old soldier in Korea 1952 I weighted
150lbs. Good genes, 35 years of running, tennis, shooting, and changing wives/girl friends every 5 years.

Fred

[MuscleScience]

72 and still very active, that is inspiring, good luck with your goals.

Also Thank you for serving.

MS.

[BG]

As far as cyp, 2.5 seems very high, pharma is usually 200mgs per ml, at your age 250mgs weekly would be just right, not to much, levels around a springy 18 year old.

Put some more thought into this and keep intouch with us, maybe anavar would be something to look into, but imo its a waste, but Ive never used pharma.

A little test/gh would be the ticket if you could, just bringing back to a young gun again, the way you were as a 20 something.

[BG]

Also where are you located, any anti aging clinics there??

[T_Own]

he said 2.5ml every 3 weeks, so not counting the spiking, it would be like 133mg/w, which is still good after the ester (~100mg/w)

[JimInAK]

It's a shame that the system makes it so difficult for you to get what you need to make your life better.

If I were you, I'd find some Test Cyp. I think that a 100 mg/wk. injection would be safe and would be a good, conservative start. Be sure that you know exactly how to do the shot and/or have someone help you. Perhaps your doctor will help you.

[fred88]

BG, a number of anti-aging clinics in Phoenix however they can't do anything other than supply the meds and at a huge profit. According to what I'm reading I can get the same stuff at about 1/10 their charge.

Jim in AK, my town is full of nurses who have volunteered to do injects into proper and safe areas of my glutes.

On another subject anticipate Viagra being banned in international events. Tests now being conducted to demonstrate that it has a positive effect on VOX uptake via nitric
oxide. May have been deciding factor in endurance events high altitude, biathalon, Tour de France.

Fred

[Tigershark]

Welcome and thank you for serving. Hope you achieve what you are looking for.