47 first cycle day 6

[Stevie D]

Hey guys, This is my first post, I would like to share with you the progress of my first cycle. First I must admit, I was hesitant about this. I am comming off a shoulder surgey that left me weak and kinda wasted. I started this cycle with these stats:
47 years old
6ft (on a good day)
186lbs
18.5 %BF
medium build/ not very toned
I opted for a very short cycle (25 day)
iam running sus 250mg on day one then 50mg ed
tren A.100mg on day one then 40mg ed
Whinny 40mg ed
Synthyroid 375mcg ed
Animal stack Vit. 1pk ed
Glucosamine 1500mg ed
Chondroiton 1200mg ed
NovedexIT 200mg ed start day 35 for 2 weeks
Logic: after TONS of reading I decided to run a short cycle to avoid as many sides as I can. I am not looking to get huge, but wanted to build strenght and repair muscle tissue and collegen fibers. If I understand this correctly; the sus is a good base to stack from and will provide some even blood levels. The tren A. builds some lean mass and provide strenght plus promote muscle fiber renewal and growth, the whinny promotes RBC production and stimulate fibroblast production. All three have different MOAs and have a synergey affect when used together.
I am staying close to a diet of 50% protein ( lean meat,chicken, protein powder, eggs) 30% fat( nuts, flak seeds, canola,olive,and fish oils) 20% carbs ( veggies).

Results so far: Day 6 and noticed Huge amount of energy, gained 5lbs and lost 3%bf (hand held device), look thicker all over with arms and shoulder starting to develop(defintion). I notice I have to be careful with my shoulder as I catch myself wanting to go heavier all the time. do fullbody WOs medium weight 3to4 sets with 10to12 reps per muscle group 3x to 4x week. 30 to 40 minutes of cardio (intense) 3x to 4x week. I noticed after each workout I am starving. Usually subsides with large protein drink. I am eating more in one day than I normally do in three. I took some pics but may have to post a lame video because for some reason my camera phone pic format is of some exotic type.
So far so good. Got 19 days left then I am gonna back off for 2 months and go from there. Anyone here have simular experience? What can I expect in the comming weeks?
Comments, advise, appreciated![/

[gigabitbucket]

That is one heck of a first cycle.
With all due respect, did you read the stickys for advice?

Normally, a person would start with a cycle of test (only) and see how it goes.
IMHO, your BF is a little to high to start a cycle. Should be >15%.


With that said , GOOD LUCK on your cycle!!!!!

[kaju]

I agree with gigabucket
tren ace is not for beginners. yes tren ace does build lean mass but it will be built under the layer of fat. you will not be aboe to see it unless you loose the fat.
im confused as to why you decided this cycle and the length of this cycle. It doesnt make since to me. But keep us informed and if you run into problems let us know.

Next time do a little more research before you start. come here and ask a few questions we can steer you right.

[bass]

Holy shit, that’s is a scary cycle, but i am glad you're getting results. did you do a blood test, and are you going to do one after your cycle? be careful with that shoulder, with all the AAS you are doing its probably suppressing most of your pain, but the problem still there and it may get worse if you are not careful...good luck bro, and please post before and after photos.

[Stevie D]

hey guys thanks for the input, Yes this is a heavy cycle, The reasoning behind this cycle is the healing properties each AAS has to offer, and the added effects when used together. The reason for such a short cycle was stuff I read about concerning cycle length and sides. I may have bitten off more than I can chew but for now things are going great! I ve gain one more pound since my last post. I feel great, almost too much energy. When I started I had come off of three years plus being on pain meds which sent my Test levels through the floor. I had such little energy it felt like climbing MT everst just getting out of bed. Plus my shoulder was taking forever to heal; partly because of this. Bass you are right about my pain levels as I feel very little pain which is remarkable. To give you an idea how well this works for pain. I just got off this lovely regime-- 30mgs Morphine sulphate TID 4mgs hydromorphone( dilated) BID and percecett 10mg PRN. This kept my pain level down to a 4 or 5 on a scale of 10. This and the fact I was a walking zombie/ junkie convienced me to try AAS. Iam or at least try to be very aware of my shoulder. I get my healthcare from the VA. This means from the time I injured my should until they performed surgey on it was almost three years to the day. The last thing I need is to tweek it again., mentaly I could not handle it. All those years of pain , plus becoming a prescription junkie as a bonus, is something I wouldnt wish on Bin Ladin. I was planning on doing a weekly post with updates. I have before pics but need to figure out how to upload them on my computer. I will post the before and afters upon completion. Speaking of post.. Ive decided to include PROVIRONUM 25mg starting at day 20 and continue for 25 days and NovedexIT 200mg ed start day 35 for 2 weeks.
Thanks for your interest I do have a question. What are some of the warning signs that I should back off or shut down the cycle completely?

[kaju]

hey guys thanks for the input, Yes this is a heavy cycle, The reasoning behind this cycle is the healing properties each AAS has to offer, and the added effects when used together. The reason for such a short cycle was stuff I read about concerning cycle length and sides. I may have bitten off more than I can chew but for now things are going great! I ve gain one more pound since my last post. I feel great, almost too much energy. When I started I had come off of three years plus being on pain meds which sent my Test levels through the floor. I had such little energy it felt like climbing MT everst just getting out of bed. Plus my shoulder was taking forever to heal; partly because of this. Bass you are right about my pain levels as I feel very little pain which is remarkable. To give you an idea how well this works for pain. I just got off this lovely regime-- 30mgs Morphine sulphate TID 4mgs hydromorphone( dilated) BID and percecett 10mg PRN. This kept my pain level down to a 4 or 5 on a scale of 10. This and the fact I was a walking zombie/ junkie convienced me to try AAS. Iam or at least try to be very aware of my shoulder. I get my healthcare from the VA. This means from the time I injured my should until they performed surgey on it was almost three years to the day. The last thing I need is to tweek it again., mentaly I could not handle it. All those years of pain , plus becoming a prescription junkie as a bonus, is something I wouldnt wish on Bin Ladin. I was planning on doing a weekly post with updates. I have before pics but need to figure out how to upload them on my computer. I will post the before and afters upon completion. Speaking of post.. Ive decided to include PROVIRONUM 25mg starting at day 20 and continue for 25 days and NovedexIT 200mg ed start day 35 for 2 weeks.
Thanks for your interest I do have a question. What are some of the warning signs that I should back off or shut down the cycle completely?

There are other things you could have done that would do what you want it to do. Tren is a potentialy dangerouse compound. Also if you could run the other things longer it would give you more time to heal. I think what yo are doing is going to give you a false since of being healed.
Another thing you are doing nolva for pct but that is only an estraen inhibitor. It is not going ot get your natural test back into production. But .... since you are only doing such a short cycle you will be ok.
Studies have shown testoeronw will improve healing in joints.
My suggestion is do an 8 week cycle of testosterone alone and the corect pct afterward I think you will do better.

[Stevie D]

Thanks for the input, you have me considering a different route. Pehaps I should cut down the amount of tren from 40mg ed to eod and stop it completely at day 15. I could continue with the Sus to finish the cycle. I will be honest with you. It is tempting to forge on with my original cycle as I am seeing some dramatic results. I am really beefing up in a very short time. Today is day 10 and I havent felt this good in years. My muscles seem to be growing before my eyes. After reading your response, and being honest with myself, I think Iam losing focus of my original goal, which is healing a shoulder injury. Its hard not to get caught up in the appearence aspect of this because of the rapid results. One good thing is, being a student in healthcare, I am mindful of how my body is reacting to this regime. I am taking ample amounts of milk thistle and have upped my Thyroid medication 3 fold as tren is known to reduce T3 levels. I have 15 days left of this cycle, to be on the safe side I will have my bloodwork done tomorrow. I will be interested in the liver panal as that seems to the probable place to have complications. I have decided to stop the Whinny as it is an oral. With the sus and tren I dont think the whinny is worth the risk to reward ratio. Thanks for the input as it got me thinking about what I am doing. I`ll post an update after bloodwork and what I decided to do.
Thanks!

[gigabitbucket]

Sounds like you are enjoying yourself! very important.
My concern is how much of the gains you will keep after this cycle.

Do you have your diet in check? you may be in for a nice crash when all said and down.

keep us posted. DONT hurt your shoulder!!!