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    05electraglide is offline New Member
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    Hi everyone - brand new here

    43yrs, been in the gym off and on for years (summer off / winter in) but for 2yrs now I got serious and focused. lost 50lbs - sitting at 182lbs (9%BF)
    My diet (macros) are dialed in , routines are good and the pains and gains of 40+ are real.

    I have low Test and get doc apprvd shots monthly (very low dose).
    really considering doing a cycle (If I can get them in Canada) but don't want to inject - Looking at these legal oral options.
    Overwhelmed with info and I'm digging through the forums but only have so much time in a day.

    I'm starting a clean bulk and the goal is a solid 10lbs (unrealistic as natural) keeping BF fairly low, plan on Calorie cycling (4wks high /2wks low) for the next 4 months then serious cut again .

    leaning toward a Deca 200 / Var 10 / Cleanse

    .....Dos this sound right?
    ......with D-bol I need Test, is this for injection only, not related to Deca 200 right?

    Any insight would be really appreciated.

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    Deca , all AAS, is based on a modified Testosterone molecule. Taking Deca without Test is NOT recommended. Your HPTA (endocrine system) will stop the production of natural Testosterone but you're not taking any exogenous Test so your estrogen will be disproportionately high. This could lead to gyno (moobs) and other bad side effects. It is also recommended that Test be taken will all orals with the only exception being Var. Even with Var I take Test for the same reason mentioned previously. Where does that leave you? My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle Good luck.

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    Thanks - appreciate it

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    The legal alternatives you speak of are not steroids only supplements. A basic testosterone cycle is what you need.

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    What is your TRT dosage? Monthly shots? What kind of test does your doctor have you on?

    There are not any "legal" steroids except what a doctor prescribes for you. Looks like the stuff you mentioned are pro - hormones. Stay away from that junk. It can cause more harm than good.

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    First focus on diet P/F/C % and BF% and after that read this and ask lots of questions. My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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