clomid without hcg?

**Juicy Sauce** · 12-02-2005, 09:52 PM

let me know if just taking clomid can recover test production or is it absolutly essential to take hcg as well. and why. thanks.
JS

**Papi93** · 12-02-2005, 10:00 PM

If you run an extended cycle, past 14 weeks, then HCG is a good addition to your cycle. If you use harsher substances like tren , then I would add it as well. Tren will shut you down like no other. Just be careful how close you take HCG to PCT. If you do it wrong, you can set your progress back.

**Juicy Sauce** · 12-02-2005, 10:15 PM

good info. thanks

**TheMudMan** · 12-03-2005, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Juicy Sauce

let me know if just taking clomid can recover test production or is it absolutly essential to take hcg as well. and why. thanks.
JS

Yep clomid will recover HPTA functions after your cycle is completed. As Papi stated HCG is used durring your cycle to keep testicular atrophy to a minimum. Some state youcan use HCG durring PCT but JMO don't. For PCT the best combo for me is Clomid / Nolva / L-dex / Tribulus.

**ManOsteel** · 12-03-2005, 06:30 PM

papi93 so when are you supposed to take hcg , you said if you dont take it the right way it can set your progress back, how long after the cycle should you take hcg?

**Papi93** · 12-03-2005, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ManOsteel

papi93 so when are you supposed to take hcg, you said if you dont take it the right way it can set your progress back, how long after the cycle should you take hcg?

A dose of HCG , during an AAS cycle, is 500-1000iu EW to EOW. Some use it in PCT but I would follow Mudman's advice and avoid HCG during this time.

**Booz** · 12-04-2005, 10:19 AM

you can use hcg imo in the 2 or so weeks after the last jab of test and before the start of clomid therapy!thats if you are usin a long actin testosterone .i would not advise usin hcg with clomid at all!

**MarkinHouston** · 12-06-2005, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Papi93

A dose of HCG, during an AAS cycle, is 500-1000iu EW to EOW. Some use it in PCT but I would follow Mudman's advice and avoid HCG during this time.

Those doses sound low to me....I've read more like 500-1000iu e3d during.....

**Papi93** · 12-07-2005, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by MarkinHouston

Those doses sound low to me....I've read more like 500-1000iu e3d during.....

I got that dose from the profiles section on HCG .

**SquatDr.** · 12-07-2005, 09:40 PM

Ok, I am in my 5th week of a test-cyp. cycle, I have HCG , so I should do this the last copule weeks of my cycle???, then start clomid when????

**CapnZ** · 12-09-2005, 10:29 AM

I did 2 weeks of hcg - 500 iu eod, after my last test shot, and quit before starting PCT. Now in week 3 of PCT (clomid / nolva) and recovering nicely with minimal loss of gains. A little fat accumulation but I'll start cutting once PCT is complete. And I was using a long ester test (test E). It worked great for me, but I guess everybody reacts differently