phera plex pct.... this ok

**NightTrain** · 07-08-2006, 09:34 AM

ok here is my cycle, i should start in about a week.
on cycle
PP 10/20/20/30
2 grams hawthorne berry ed
2-3 grams no flush niacin ed
3 grams flax seed oil ed
AX perfect cycle ed
600 mg milk thistle ed
540 mg saw palmetto ed

pct

nolva 40mg X 2 weeks/ 20 mg x 2 weeks ed
2 grams hawthorne berry ed
AX pct ed

hope this is a good pct, i did alot of reasearch on here and i think i have it right.

**NightTrain** · 07-10-2006, 01:41 AM

no one have a comment pn this pct? any input would be appreciated. is this good or not, need to know before i start next week.
PS...... im in iraq and it is hard as hell to get the supplements, so i need to know before i start and have to order more stuff..... thanks

**boxingbean** · 07-10-2006, 03:09 AM

just continue the last of the supporting supplements with a clomi/tamox (nolv)combo given by the given site, click here pct

**Papi93** · 07-10-2006, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

ok here is my cycle, i should start in about a week.
on cycle
PP 10/20/20/30
2 grams hawthorne berry ed
2-3 grams no flush niacin ed
3 grams flax seed oil ed
AX perfect cycle ed
600 mg milk thistle ed
540 mg saw palmetto ed

pct

nolva 40mg X 2 weeks/ 20 mg x 2 weeks ed
2 grams hawthorne berry ed
AX pct ed

hope this is a good pct, i did alot of reasearch on here and i think i have it right.

I would run all of your support supplements into PCT (cholesterol, blood pressure, and liver support.

It looks like you have done your research. I would recommend having some tongkat ali on hand if you have libido issues. Then again, if you are in Iraq, you might not need this.

**NightTrain** · 07-10-2006, 08:05 PM

thanks papi, i did an ass load of reasearch, mostly form this site. you guysrock. keep up the good work. as far as the libido issue , shouldnt be a problem as i aint got any in so long i wouldnt know what to do with it if it feel in my lap right now anyways, lol...........so your saying to carry the niacin, milk thislte and flax seed oil over into the pct also? well if you say so i will, guess i need to place another order to the wife and tell her to get the hit in the mail. thanks again partner. john

**Papi93** · 07-11-2006, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

thanks papi, i did an ass load of reasearch, mostly form this site. you guysrock. keep up the good work. as far as the libido issue , shouldnt be a problem as i aint got any in so long i wouldnt know what to do with it if it feel in my lap right now anyways, lol...........so your saying to carry the niacin, milk thislte and flax seed oil over into the pct also? well if you say so i will, guess i need to place another order to the wife and tell her to get the hit in the mail. thanks again partner. john

If you do not get bloodwork done, I would recommend running your support into PCT.

**rake922** · 07-11-2006, 08:09 PM

"nolva 40mg X 2 weeks/ 20 mg x 2 weeks ed"

Sounds good to me... How was the Pheraplex? Would you do it again?

**Papi93** · 07-12-2006, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

"nolva 40mg X 2 weeks/ 20 mg x 2 weeks ed"

Sounds good to me... How was the Pheraplex? Would you do it again?

I did do it for a second cycle but the gains were not as good. I did not bump the dose up to 30mg ED because I've read that anything over 20mg doesn't produce that much better results and the chance for harsher sides increase. If you were to do it for a second cycle I would recommend stacking it with something rather than increasing the dose.

**rar1015** · 07-12-2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Papi93

I did do it for a second cycle but the gains were not as good. I did not bump the dose up to 30mg ED because I've read that anything over 20mg doesn't produce that much better results and the chance for harsher sides increase. If you were to do it for a second cycle I would recommend stacking it with something rather than increasing the dose.

Since pp is so harsh on the liver what could you stack with it?

**NightTrain** · 07-19-2006, 10:09 AM

**Papi93** · 07-19-2006, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by rar1015

Since pp is so harsh on the liver what could you stack with it?

4AD would work very well but it is illegal and hard to find now.

I think Bryan2 said you could stack it with Methoxy TST, as an alternative.

**zaneisgreat** · 07-21-2006, 03:01 AM

Ive done 2 PP cycles. Your PCT looks fine. My first cycle was 10/20/20/30... saw great gains. Since i had zero sides at 10mg for week 1, i went 20/20/20/30 for my second cycle.

I have just enough for one more cycle and if i were to run it, i would start with 20mg week 1 again. It seems as though most people experience very little side effects starting with 20mg week 1.

Of coarse, testing the substance with low dosage the first time around is always a good idea, especially if you are getting gains @ 10mg. Just letting you know the sides for me were actually surprisingly mild and the gains were great!

**boxingbean** · 07-21-2006, 03:15 AM

currently runnin 30,30,30,30, no sides

on week 2, they say week 3 is the BEST gains...we'll see

supp supps include:
hawthorn berry 900mg
taurine 1g
flush free niacin 900mg
milk thistle 400mg

pct includes clomid/nolv

could PP be stacked with an injectable like dbol would as a kickoff?? such as test wtvr?? (e prefferably)

**NightTrain** · 07-21-2006, 10:41 AM

well im starting on monday and i will post a log on the supplements forum. so wish me luck.

**boxingbean** · 07-21-2006, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

well im starting on monday and i will post a log on the supplements forum. so wish me luck.

GOOD LUCK BRO

**Papi93** · 07-21-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by boxingbean

currently runnin 30,30,30,30, no sides

on week 2, they say week 3 is the BEST gains...we'll see

supp supps include:
hawthorn berry 900mg
taurine 1g
flush free niacin 900mg
milk thistle 400mg

pct includes clomid/nolv

could PP be stacked with an injectable like dbol would as a kickoff?? such as test wtvr?? (e prefferably)

You could use it as kickstart for a test e cycle.