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  1. 07-26-2006, 08:29 AM #1
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    My Hardcore-assed PCT

    Well, its that time again, a time that everyone equally loves: PCT!

    My cycle was the longest one that I have done so far, 18 weeks, although the gains on the scale were not too large, it did exactly what I wanted it to do which was gain lean body mass while decreasing body fat. It turned out to do this exceptionally, so I'm pleased.

    I would like to get my test production as soon as possible and my last inject was Sunday, with ethanate esters, so 11 more days until the complete clearing of all esterified substances.

    Heres the Arsenal:

    Days 1-7: HCG 1000/iu eod
    Days 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg/ed
    Days 7-21: Clomid 100mg/ed
    Days 21-28: Clomid 50mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Provirion 25mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tongkat Ali 1,500mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tribulus 4g/ed
    Days 1-28: IGF-1 LR3 40mcg/ed

    Whew, not too shabby eh? I wanted to get some guru's opinions on my PCT, or how it can be improved. All comments are welcome!
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  2. 07-26-2006, 09:49 AM #2
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    can you post what your cycle was made up of?
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  3. 07-26-2006, 10:52 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defconx3
    Well, its that time again, a time that everyone equally loves: PCT!

    My cycle was the longest one that I have done so far, 18 weeks, although the gains on the scale were not too large, it did exactly what I wanted it to do which was gain lean body mass while decreasing body fat. It turned out to do this exceptionally, so I'm pleased.

    I would like to get my test production as soon as possible and my last inject was Sunday, with ethanate esters, so 11 more days until the complete clearing of all esterified substances.

    Heres the Arsenal:

    Days 1-7: HCG 1000/iu eod
    Days 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg/ed
    Days 7-21: Clomid 100mg/ed
    Days 21-28: Clomid 50mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Provirion 25mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tongkat Ali 1,500mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tribulus 4g/ed
    Days 1-28: IGF-1 LR3 40mcg/ed

    Whew, not too shabby eh? I wanted to get some guru's opinions on my PCT, or how it can be improved. All comments are welcome!


    i like it but i think you are cutting your clomid therepy to short. why dont you run the HCG up untill the start of your PCT and run clomid from the start ???
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  4. 07-26-2006, 06:34 PM #4
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    I was thinking that myself, I modified it a little bit.

    Here:

    Pre-PCT 1-7: HCG 1000/iu eod
    Pre-PCT + Days 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg/ed
    Days 1-21: Clomid 100mg/ed
    Days 21-28: Clomid 50mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Provirion 25mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tongkat Ali 1,500mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tribulus 4g/ed
    Days 1-28: IGF-1 LR3 40mcg/ed

    What do you think of that?
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  5. 07-27-2006, 10:41 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defconx3
    I was thinking that myself, I modified it a little bit.

    Here:

    Pre-PCT 1-7: HCG 1000/iu eod
    Pre-PCT + Days 1-28: Nolvadex 20mg/ed
    Days 1-21: Clomid 100mg/ed
    Days 21-28: Clomid 50mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Provirion 25mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tongkat Ali 1,500mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tribulus 4g/ed
    Days 1-28: IGF-1 LR3 40mcg/ed

    What do you think of that?

    i like that much better
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  6. 07-28-2006, 04:34 AM #6
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    Thanks for the feedback, I have also decided to add in exemestane in the mix, since it will be effective in decreasing the circulating estrogen levels whereas letro and arimidex 's effectiveness will be greatly compromised by the nolvadex . The proviron has also been dropped, because although the popular belief is that it is not suppressive, it is still an exogeneous androgen and scientific data has shown conflicting evidence of whether or not is is suppressive. The exemestane will greatly lower circulating SHBG levels and estrogen levels, and promote an increase in testosterone . It is tapered to avoid an estrogen rebound. In addition I changed the HCG to 500iu/ed for two weeks instead of one.

    I previously have used simple clomid/nolvadex PCTs will acceptable results, but somewhat slow recovery times. I am excited to see how this one works out.

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    Pre-PCT 1-14: HCG 500iu/ed
    Pre-PCT 1-14: Nolvadex 20mg/ed
    Pre-PCT 1-14: Exemestane: 20mg/ed

    -------------------------------------

    Days 1-42: Nolvadex 20mg/ed
    Days 1-21: Exemestane: 20mg/ed
    Days 21-28: Exemestane: 10mg/ed
    Days 28-35: Exemestane: 5mg/ed
    Days 1-21: Clomid 100mg/ed
    Days 21-28: Clomid 50mg/ed
    Days 28-35: Clomid 25mg/ed
    Days 1-42: Tongkat Ali 1,500mg/ed
    Days 1-28: Tribulus 4g/ed
    Days 1-28: IGF-1 LR3 40mcg/ed
    -------------------------------------

    Now im beginning to like it, opinions?
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  7. 07-31-2006, 05:31 PM #7
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    Never really got any comments, does everything look fine? Any reason to change anything?
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  8. 07-31-2006, 05:56 PM #8
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    mine' scoming up in about 3-4 weeks. I'll be trying anthony roberts approach with hcg , vitamin e, aromasin ...try the search button for more info. other than that I think it looks pretty solid. I hate clomid; makes me break out
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  9. 07-31-2006, 06:00 PM #9
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    Yeah, the clomid makes my break out too, but that does show that its increasing your natty test levels. I guess theres a trade-off for everything.
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