Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    shortyepic is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    40

    Most Overlooked Question??

    Everyone who uses AAS needs to have a PCT
    (clomid, nolvadex , hcg , ect.)
    It is highley recommended to have your PCT in place before you start your cycle. However most people do not realize that NOLVADEX isnt to be taken unless signs of gyno occur. It is not automatically taken following the cycle as clomid and hcg are. A COMPLETELY POST cycle therapy example with signs of gyno would be... (if signs of gyno dont occur do not take the Nolva!)

    HCG 500IU's e3d, for 20 days (start 3 days b4 last aas shot)
    PCT (start after HCG)
    Day 1: Clomid 300mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 2-11 Clomid 100mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 12-15 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 16-21 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 20mg
    Day 22-29 Nolva 20mg

  2. #2
    guest589745 is offline 2/3 Deca 1/3 Test
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    7,964
    What ? That isn't true man. Nice try though I guess...?

  3. #3
    king6's Avatar
    king6 is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Mid west
    Posts
    3,366
    Quote Originally Posted by shortyepic
    Everyone who uses AAS needs to have a PCT
    (clomid, nolvadex , hcg , ect.)
    It is highley recommended to have your PCT in place before you start your cycle. However most people do not realize that NOLVADEX isnt to be taken unless signs of gyno occur. It is not automatically taken following the cycle as clomid and hcg are. A COMPLETELY POST cycle therapy example with signs of gyno would be... (if signs of gyno dont occur do not take the Nolva!)

    HCG 500IU's e3d, for 20 days (start 3 days b4 last aas shot)
    PCT (start after HCG)
    Day 1: Clomid 300mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 2-11 Clomid 100mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 12-15 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 16-21 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 20mg
    Day 22-29 Nolva 20mg
    Actually if you had to choose between Nolva and Clomid, it should be nolva. As it requires more of clomid to do what nolva does in only 20mg. Plus nolva doesn't have the emotional sides that clomid does, not to mention some vision issues. I have never expierenced the vision issues, but I did have the emotional issues, and those suck.

  4. #4
    Dog-Slime's Avatar
    Dog-Slime is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    1,139
    Quote Originally Posted by shortyepic
    Everyone who uses AAS needs to have a PCT
    (clomid, nolvadex , hcg , ect.)
    It is highley recommended to have your PCT in place before you start your cycle. However most people do not realize that NOLVADEX isnt to be taken unless signs of gyno occur. It is not automatically taken following the cycle as clomid and hcg are. A COMPLETELY POST cycle therapy example with signs of gyno would be... (if signs of gyno dont occur do not take the Nolva!)

    HCG 500IU's e3d, for 20 days (start 3 days b4 last aas shot)
    PCT (start after HCG)
    Day 1: Clomid 300mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 2-11 Clomid 100mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 12-15 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
    Day 16-21 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 20mg
    Day 22-29 Nolva 20mg
    Yes it is.

  5. #5
    shortyepic is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    40

    um

    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    Actually if you had to choose between Nolva and Clomid, it should be nolva. As it requires more of clomid to do what nolva does in only 20mg. Plus nolva doesn't have the emotional sides that clomid does, not to mention some vision issues. I have never expierenced the vision issues, but I did have the emotional issues, and those suck.

    clomid is used to kickstart your test again. nolva is used to prevent gyno by blocking estrogen. u need both in your pct. but do not take the nolva unless u have gyno symptoms!

  6. #6
    Johny-too-small's Avatar
    Johny-too-small is offline Vive Memor Leti
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Sam's Club
    Posts
    4,034
    Shorty, where did you get your "facts" on nolva?

  7. #7
    crash187ct's Avatar
    crash187ct is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts
    1,475
    so whats the most overlooked question?

  8. #8
    shortyepic is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    Shorty, where did you get your "facts" on nolva?

    research bro. tell me that im wrong??

  9. #9
    spywizard's Avatar
    spywizard is offline AR-Elite Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    In the Gym, if i could
    Posts
    15,929
    wow, so all of the profiles we have listed are wrong regarding

    nolva
    clomid
    hcg

    ?????

    because clomid increase sprem production
    nolva increases by limiting estro testosterone
    hcg taken before pct replaces, kickstart LH in the testes..

    hmmmmmmmmmm

    lets see your studies on the stated facts that this board and many of us follow in our daily lives..
    The answer to your every question

    Rules

    A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted
    to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially
    one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.


    If you get scammed by an UGL listed on this board or by another member here, it's all part of the game and learning experience for you,
    we do not approve nor support any sources that may be listed on this site.
    I will not do source checks for you, the peer review from other members should be enough to help you make a decision on your quest. Buyer beware.
    Don't Let the Police kick your ass

  10. #10
    spywizard's Avatar
    spywizard is offline AR-Elite Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    In the Gym, if i could
    Posts
    15,929
    Nolvadex also has some important features for the steroid using athlete. In hypogonadic and infertile men given nolvadex, increases in the serum levels of LH, FSH, and most importantly, testosterone were all observed (2)(3). The best (rough) estimate I can give you from my research is that 20mgs of Nolvadex will raise your testosterone levels about 150% (5)...and this would of course greatly aid post-cycle-recovery. What this means to us is that if you take Nolvadex after a cycle, when you are trying to raise your levels of testosterone , LH, and FSH back to normal, it will greatly aid recovery. In fact, if I were limited to just one compound to aid me in post-cycle-recovery, Nolvadex would be my choice. If you want a comparison, it would require 150mgs of Clomid to accomplish that type of elevation in testosterone, but nolvadex also significantly increased the LH (Leutenizing Hormone) response to LHRL (5), after 6 weeks.
    The answer to your every question

    Rules

    A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted
    to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially
    one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.


    If you get scammed by an UGL listed on this board or by another member here, it's all part of the game and learning experience for you,
    we do not approve nor support any sources that may be listed on this site.
    I will not do source checks for you, the peer review from other members should be enough to help you make a decision on your quest. Buyer beware.
    Don't Let the Police kick your ass

  11. #11
    Johny-too-small's Avatar
    Johny-too-small is offline Vive Memor Leti
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Sam's Club
    Posts
    4,034
    Quote Originally Posted by shortyepic
    research bro. tell me that im wrong??
    Easy, son. I asked you a question. I never said you're wrong (even though you are) but I was asking you to provide some actual information/proof to back up your statements.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •