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    Advanced Help Needed!!!

    fellas, I need your help
    ok I am finishing up my cycle
    250 mg sustanon / wk 8 wks
    50 mg winny/ every other day came in wk 2 on for 8 wks
    10/mg nolva/day


    so my post cycle I have 40 pills 50mg clomid
    10-15 20mg of nolva
    a full bottle of letrozole
    1200 i.u. of HCG

    any suggestion on what I should do!

    from my reading i have found that
    20mg nolva/day 6wks
    500 iu HCG/ day 3wks
    works best
    i also found that nolva can be subbed with clomid but it is more expensive and has to be taken in larger amounts. However i realize that i will be short on the nolvadex to run 6 wks.

    I also read that clomid and nolva antagonize one another so you should choose one

    the only reason i am enquiring about the letro is b/c I have a slight build up in the nipple so .... i am thinking I should take care of it..... however i don't know what to use with the letro....b/c i am not 100% sure of the patho effects it does in the body!

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    letro needs at least 2 weeks to build up an effective blood level, so you should start right away...from my calculations the clomid is enough for 14 days at 100 mg and another 12 at 50, after you will finish the letro you need to take nolva for a week or 2 because of the raise of e's....

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    so i should run letro for how long exactly.....
    and should i run the clomid during the letro?
    I know the the HCG should be used for sure b/c it is the most effective for getting my natural levels back up!

    and you are saying don't take the clomid and nolva at the same time correct....b/c i have done my reading and several articles have said they are antagonist for each other.... do you agree with that!

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    clomid and nolva are not antagonists in any way they're both SERMS , they just have different receptor sites...run the letro during hcg and clomid use,the pct..after discontinuing the letro use the nolva for 2 weeks

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    you should read the pct forum and then buy the correct ammounts of compound for the pct you decide on.

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    If you have not run letro during your cycle, I would DEF. not suggest running it JUST for PCT. The tapering on and tapering off letro, not even counting when it is stable in your blood, takes around 4 weeks. I believe it is best to taper off letro (if currently running during cycle) for the 10 days before the start of pct.
    Letro is some REALLY strong stuff.
    I would def suggest running nolvadex in your pct for the test-reboot factor and to protect against estrogen rebound from the HCG . I personally would throw some arimidex in the mix just to be safe, but you should be fine with just nolvadex to protect against estrogen rebound if you are just doing 500iu every 3days. You may want to do 500 every 2 days, though. Just a thought.

    Good luck

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    You only get one healthy endocrine system...please be advised that PCT drugs are imperative for proper functioning testicles..............That is the FIRST thing you should get...then get your test or deca or winstrol.

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    Oh yeah...dudes don't like to have breasts either...unless you are some type of freak or something....good luck.

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