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    Question Sostenol 250/Oxodrol Cycle!!!

    I'm either going to run Sostenol 250 (Superdrol, Phera-Plex, and Halodrol) or Oxodrol 12 (Superdrol).

    Sostenol 250:
    Week 1: AI Cycle Support (x2 servings)
    Week 2: AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 3: Sostenol 250 (x1)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 4: Sostenol 250 (x2)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 5: Sostenol 250 (x2)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 6: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 7: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 8: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 9: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)

    Oxoxdrol 12:
    Week 1: AI Cycle Support (x2 servings)
    Week 2: AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 3: Oxoxdrol 12 (12mg)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 4: Oxoxdrol 12 (24mg)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 5: Oxoxdrol 12 (24mg)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 6: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 7: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 8: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 9: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)

    *PCT same for both:
    Week 6: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (3 caps)
    Week 7: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (4 caps)
    Week 8: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (5caps)
    Week 9: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (6caps)

    I will also be taking tauring (2-3g/day) for back pumps and additional Milk Thistle just to be safe. And for lethargy, I will be taking Ester Vitamin C (6g/day) and Vitamin E (400iu pre/post workout).

    My question: Would this PCT be adequate for both cycles? Should I keep Fenugreek or drop it?

    I would greatly appreciate any help and advice you can provide in regards to the PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlete20
    I'm either going to run Sostenol 250 (Superdrol, Phera-Plex, and Halodrol) or Oxodrol 12 (Superdrol).

    Sostenol 250:
    Week 1: AI Cycle Support (x2 servings)
    Week 2: AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 3: Sostenol 250 (x1)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 4: Sostenol 250 (x2)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 5: Sostenol 250 (x2)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 6: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 7: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 8: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 9: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)

    Oxoxdrol 12:
    Week 1: AI Cycle Support (x2 servings)
    Week 2: AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 3: Oxoxdrol 12 (12mg)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 4: Oxoxdrol 12 (24mg)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 5: Oxoxdrol 12 (24mg)/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 6: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 7: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 8: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 9: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)

    *PCT same for both:
    Week 6: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (3 caps)
    Week 7: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (4 caps)
    Week 8: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (5caps)
    Week 9: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (6caps)

    I will also be taking tauring (2-3g/day) for back pumps and additional Milk Thistle just to be safe. And for lethargy, I will be taking Ester Vitamin C (6g/day) and Vitamin E (400iu pre/post workout).

    My question: Would this PCT be adequate for both cycles? Should I keep Fenugreek or drop it?

    I would greatly appreciate any help and advice you can provide in regards to the PCT.
    ***Correction: taurine, not tauring***

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    PCT:
    Week 6: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (3 caps)
    Week 7: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (4 caps)
    Week 8: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (5caps)
    Week 9: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg), Fenugreek (6caps)

    I'll be using this PCT for Oxodrol 12 and should I change the dosages or are they fine? What about Fenugreek, should I drop it? And would this PCT be ok for Sostenol 250, which is a blend of Superdol, Halodrol, and Phera-Plex?

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    your dosages are fine and you can keep the fenugreek if u like or drop it

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    your dosages are fine and you can keep the fenugreek if u like or drop it
    Thanks again. So the PCT is fine for both, but especially for Sostenol 250? Finally, if any gyno problems were to arise during "on", is it ok to use Arimidex while "on" (1mg every other day is ok?)? Or would Letrozole be a better choice and if so, what dosages should be used?

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    run arimidex at .5 mg ed during cycle to help prevent gyno, but if gyno existed then letro is a better choice at around 2-3mg ed till gyno is gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    run arimidex at .5 mg ed during cycle to help prevent gyno, but if gyno existed then letro is a better choice at around 2-3mg ed till gyno is gone
    So I can only start taking Arimidex at 0.5mg ed only if my nipples begin to get sore or can I just take it for the entire 3 weeks of the "on" cycle to prevent it from happening and then use Clomid and Aromasin for PCT? And is there any chance of rebound (gyno) by doing so?
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    arimidex is not necessary during a cycle unless you wanna minimize the water retention and prevent gyno if your prone to it, but sure start taking it if your nipples begins to get sore, and stay on it till the soreness is gone, then use clomid and aromasin for pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    arimidex is not necessary during a cycle unless you wanna minimize the water retention and prevent gyno if your prone to it, but sure start taking it if your nipples begins to get sore, and stay on it till the soreness is gone, then use clomid and aromasin for pct
    Thanks for all the help. I think I'm going to use it during the cycle just to be safe.

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    hey this looks familliar

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    I was told that my Clomid dosages are too high, are they and if so, what would I be better off with?

    Week 6: Clomid (105mg)
    Week 7: Clomid (105mg)
    Week 8: Clomid (70mg)
    Week 9: Clomid (70mg)

    I was told to advised this:

    Week 1 : Clomid 150mg day 1-3, Clomid 100mg day 4-8
    Week 2: Clomid 75 day 9-10. Clomid 50 day 11 till end etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    hey this looks familliar
    Yeah, I thought I'd have better feedback over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlete20
    Yeah, I thought I'd have better feedback over here.
    Trust me bro you've come to the right place...lol

    A quick suggestion hit up the supplement forum...theres a couple sd logs goin on right now, my m1t log, plus my sd log from back in october...it can give you a pretty good idea of what to expect, and maybe answer some other questions you have

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    Trust me bro you've come to the right place...lol

    A quick suggestion hit up the supplement forum...theres a couple sd logs goin on right now, my m1t log, plus my sd log from back in october...it can give you a pretty good idea of what to expect, and maybe answer some other questions you have
    Ok, thanks.

    Someone on the other board advised that the dosages of Clomid are too high and there's no reason to use Arimidex during the cycle. Would there be complications for taking these dosages? Said that I would be better off with:

    Week 1 : Clomid 150mg day 1-3, Clomid 100mg day 4-8
    Week 2: Clomid 75 day 9-10. Clomid 50 day 11 till end etc..

    What do you think?
    Last edited by athlete20; 01-29-2007 at 12:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlete20
    Ok, thanks.

    Someone on the other board advised that the dosages of Clomid are too high and there's no reason to use Arimidex during the cycle. Would there be complications for taking these dosages? Said that I would be better off with:

    Week 1 : Clomid 150mg day 1-3, Clomid 100mg day 4-8
    Week 2: Clomid 75 day 9-10. Clomid 50 day 11 till end etc..

    What do you think?
    i dont think you'll have to worry about gyno during your cycle

    And as far as that other suggestion for how to run clomid, you're gonna get a million different responses from a million different people...the pct dosing scheme i ran was recommended by a few vets on this board. I found it worked quite well for me, and other people can attest the same. I'm not saying its a bad scheme by anymeans, but to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    i dont think you'll have to worry about gyno during your cycle

    And as far as that other suggestion for how to run clomid, you're gonna get a million different responses from a million different people...the pct dosing scheme i ran was recommended by a few vets on this board. I found it worked quite well for me, and other people can attest the same. I'm not saying its a bad scheme by anymeans, but to each their own.
    I'm just going to take Arimidex just to be safe, I don't want to take any chances. Ok, thanks for the clearing the question. So, are there any complications that can happen with high dosages of Clomid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlete20
    I'm just going to take Arimidex just to be safe, I don't want to take any chances. Ok, thanks for the clearing the question. So, are there any complications that can happen with high dosages of Clomid?
    Yes clomid does come w/ its host of side effects...One of them being vision probems...can possibly be permanent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    Yes clomid does come w/ its host of side effects...One of them being vision probems...can possibly be permanent.
    Can these sides be possible with the dosages I'm planning to take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlete20
    Can these sides be possible with the dosages I'm planning to take?
    vision problems usually happens when you run around 200-300mgs or more

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    vision problems usually happens when you run around 200-300mgs or more
    Are there any other potential sides with the dosages I'm using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlete20
    Are there any other potential sides with the dosages I'm using?
    you might get a little emotional

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    I've been doing some more research on Arimidex and found out that I should not take it during this cycle because it will cause a huge estrogenic overshoot after the cycle and will counteract with my PCT. I'm dropping Fenugreek because it's a galactagogue.

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    ok then will now u know what to do ?! just run arimidex during pct then, your cycle is not a heavy steroid cycle so you should recover pretty easy and fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    ok then will now u know what to do ?! just run arimidex during pct then, your cycle is not a heavy steroid cycle so you should recover pretty easy and fast
    I've decided to run Sostenol 250 first. Well, each AI has its good and bad, so I'm undecided between the two because many have used Aromasin with success (With Superdrol, which Sostenol 250 contains), but Arimidex also helps prevent gyno (But have that it affects cholesterol, is there any truth to this?). So, would you recommend Arimidex instead of Aromasin for PCT and if so or not, why? What would be better suited, .5mg/day or 1mg every other day?
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    like upstatetank said, i dont think you should be worried about gyno unless ur nipples become sensitive, so just keep arimidex on had but dont use it unless u had to, take the aromasin for pct and it has to be taken everyday, .5 is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    like upstatetank said, i dont think you should be worried about gyno unless ur nipples become sensitive, so just keep arimidex on had but dont use it unless u had to, take the aromasin for pct and it has to be taken everyday, .5 is fine
    Thanks, yeah that's what I'm going to do then. Here's what it's going to look like:

    Sostenol 250:
    Week 1: AI Cycle Support (x2 servings)
    Week 2: AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 3: Sostenol 250 (x1)/AI Cycle Support (x2)/***Arimidex (0.5mg/ed), ***only if gyno-issues should arise
    Week 4: Sostenol 250 (x2)/AI Cycle Support (x2)/***Arimidex (0.5mg/ed)
    Week 5: Sostenol 250 (x2)/AI Cycle Support (x2)/***Arimidex (0.5mg/ed)
    Week 6: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 7: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 8: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)
    Week 9: PCT*/AI Cycle Support (x2)

    *PCT:
    Week 6: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg)
    Week 7: Clomid (105mg), Aromasin (25mg)
    Week 8: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg)
    Week 9: Clomid (70mg), Aromasin (25mg)

    I will also be taking taurine (2-3g/day) for back pumps and additional Milk Thistle just to be safe. And for lethargy, I will be taking Ester Vitamin C (6g/day) and Vitamin E (400iu pre/post workout). Ceatine will be used during PCT.

    I may pre-load AI's Cycle Support for 3 weeks instead of 2, just to be safe.

    I know that I need to be consuming a good amount of EFA to support my lipid profile and was just wondering what I should stay away from and what is recommended to consume? I'm currently taking Fish Oil and "some" flaxseed from Animal Flex. And I eat top-round steak or lean ground beef and peanut butter/Use Olive Oil as well for cooking.


    I'll will be doing a log on this to record my progress. Is there any LOG SECTION because I can't find one?
    Last edited by athlete20; 01-30-2007 at 02:56 PM.

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    Fish oil is good, you know what to do now man, i cant think of anything that u should stay away from except junk food. post your log here http://forums.steroid.com/members-cycle-results/

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    Fish oil is good, you know what to do now man, i cant think of anything that u should stay away from except junk food. post your log here http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
    Ok, thanks again. One last thing, on the directions it just says to take your serving of Sostenol a day and I was wondering if it's ok to take it after breakfast or when would it be better? In my 2nd and 3rd week when I'm taking 2 capsules a day, should I take them together or at seperate times?

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    take them seperate

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    take them seperate
    So, it's ok to take one after breakfast? And if so, for weeks 2nd and 3rd, when would you recommend taking the second dose?

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    yes its ok. dinner time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    yes its ok. dinner time.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    yes its ok. dinner time.
    I'm about to start and I'm just reviewing what I'm going to do. Is there a better time that you would suggest to take the dosages or is what I specified the best time to do so?

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    what you specified works and is fine

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