HCG 500iu each day too much??

**BIGSNOR** · 03-19-2007, 04:12 PM

hey guys just got off a 20 plus week cycle of test prop, tren , winny, masteron . And no i didnt run them all for 20 weeks. Anyways im doing anthony roberts method of pct without the aromasin . Is 500 IU of hcg each day too much you think? it seems to be that my balls are shrinking more than they are growing. Im also taking myogenx, nolva, clomid, hcg, and igf1 lr3. I know thats not his exact pct but i tweaked some, and I dont have any aromasin. I do have proviron though. Should I get the aromasin? and what about the hcg. let me know what you think.

BG · 03-19-2007, 04:38 PM

For pct I use 1000 iu's eod for the total of 10000 iu's as my doctor recommended.

**hardgainer1** · 03-19-2007, 06:09 PM

does HCG suppress natural test after too much use?

**BIGSNOR** · 03-19-2007, 06:21 PM

why do it every other day?

BG · 03-19-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by BIGSNOR

why do it every other day?

I like it to spike up and down. I wait to add hcg until after 2 weeks of Nolva, let Nolva start to work the bang it with HCG. Im not saying its the right way, it worked well for me. But I also dont train the first two weeks of pct.

BG · 03-19-2007, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by hardgainer1

does HCG suppress natural test after too much use?

Found this....

Another possible downside to HCG is that it to can be suppressive to natural testosterone because it takes the place of LH. Since LH is manufactured in the pituitary because of the response of GnRH (gonadotropin releasing hormone) which in turn is secreted by the hypothalamus. Because the HCG mimics LH and is being supplied exogenously the hypothalamus will be given a signal to still stop producing GnRH, so no natural LH will be produced (5). This is why it should always be used with a compound such as nolvadex . So although HCG is essential after long or heavy cycles, it should not be used without an ancillary such as (specifically) nolv. Also HCG therapy should be discontinued at least 2 weeks prior to stopping the use of nolva, or it may suppress natural testosterone itself (5). This should not be a problem if you are running it towards the end of your cycle of AAS

**hardgainer1** · 03-19-2007, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

I like it to spike up and down. I wait to add hcg until after 2 weeks of Nolva, let Nolva start to work the bang it with HCG. Im not saying its the right way, it worked well for me. But I also dont train the first two weeks of pct.

interesting, why dont you train? I know i dont wantt o train those weeks but I usually try to anyway. maybe due to low test you do more damage than good to your muscles during that period

**BIGSNOR** · 03-19-2007, 08:13 PM

yah i've got nolva in there at 20mg ed as well. So im good to go with the 500 ED with no aromasin ?

**biotec4** · 03-19-2007, 09:14 PM

according to all the studies and cycles i've seen and done you need to take hcg for 2 weeks.
I would buy 2 kits and take 1 kit a week the full shot never breaking it up.
The rest of the time should be nolvadex ,proviron ,armidex or clomid.
My post cycle therapy was 2 kits HCG armidex, clomid ,and nolvadex.
for a total of 2 months.I took the pills ed from the begining and the HCG just in the first 2 weeks of PCT.
BIO.....