Nolva or Letro?

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 10:20 AM

So my dilemma is I have enough Nolvadex to either run 30 days of PCT or use it during cycle to battle gyno. I also have enough Letro to run during PCT or battle gyno. I've heard mixed reviews that Nolva is good for that but that an AI is good too, such as Letro. Probably a newb question, sorry. No matter what I've got a bottle of clomid that I will be running with my PCT.

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 10:27 AM

What compounds are you using on your cycle??

Merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 10:28 AM

Front loading Cyp
1000mg wk1
500mg 2-9wk

Its all the test i have so i can only make it nine weeks long.

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 10:40 AM

Letro is pretty strong and alot of people dont seem to like it. I like it when using a 19 nor (tren ,deca etc ). Plus it helps lower PgR which is a benefit when using a 19 nor

You could try nolva as its a SERM so it binds receptors. An AI actually helps to stop the conversion of test into estrogen ( via aromatase enzyme)

Also you could look into using a weaker AI like adex if you wanted to.

See the thing is estrogen is somewhat anabolic . Like I said letro is strong and" can work" to well so to speak for some.

For pct I like Hookers protocol..

Merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 10:51 AM

Well, my bind is what i've got is all I've got. Is it possible if I'm seeing gyno come up during my cycle to just take "half a spray" of letro instead of a full spray, I mean that would just not give me as much in my system right? I just dont want to end up a month from now with tits because i thought letro would stop it and it doesnt or it does but my balls fall off, you know what i mean?

**Big** · 09-03-2007, 10:52 AM

so do you have your pct planned and those compounds set aside?

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 10:55 AM

Yes, Ive about 35ml of Nolva left, a full bottle of letro and a full bottle of clomid, thats all ive got. Back when i wanted to start a cycle that seems like all that was needed... two years ago. But I was reading and if one of the side effects of letro is temp. labido loss I can deal, hell i havent had sex with something in like months.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 11:00 AM

Actually, I don't want to piss every vet in here off so how about I quit turning mole hills into mountains and just ask your opinion. What do you think I should taking during my cycle to offset gyno, nolva or something better that i can get off arr. And what do you suggest I take with my clomid during pct? I'll just say screw it and buy the better stuff that is going to help me keep my gains.

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by ImFreakingHuge

Yes, Ive about 35ml of Nolva left, a full bottle of letro and a full bottle of clomid, thats all ive got. Back when i wanted to start a cycle that seems like all that was needed... two years ago. But I was reading and if one of the side effects of letro is temp. labido loss I can deal, hell i havent had sex with something in like months.

You haven't had sex with "SOMETHING " in like months.. Thats Scary... hahahahahahah
just messing with ya . You set yourself up for that one . lol

Since you have letro on hand you can try using that at a low dose .

For pct you could use clomid and nolva but I suggest you spend some time researching in our PCT forum . This way you can look around and get some feed back and than decide what you thinks best for pct.

Merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 11:29 AM

I can? Thats great, I really appreciate all your help. I'll definetly look into the clomid and nolva thing. Its my first time and I want to get it right and have a good experience not one where I end up in the hospital... but Im going to be front loading, ever had any experience with that? Like what it feels like when that first batch of test hits?

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by ImFreakingHuge

I can? Thats great, I really appreciate all your help. I'll definetly look into the clomid and nolva thing. Its my first time and I want to get it right and have a good experience not one where I end up in the hospital... but Im going to be front loading, ever had any experience with that? Like what it feels like when that first batch of test hits?

All I can say is you better have "something " to screw around when it does kick lol.

I notice my libido go up when it starts to kick. Also I have a good overall feeling. Mentally ( sense of well begin i suppose you would say).

Merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 02:51 PM

Ha well besides the overall good feeling and the craving to screw anything that has two ears, what about bad things... wake up with sensative D cups? or a face that looks like it should be wire brushed instead of washed to get the acne off? or like the michelin tire man... full of water

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by ImFreakingHuge

Ha well besides the overall good feeling and the craving to screw anything that has two ears, what about bad things... wake up with sensative D cups? or a face that looks like it should be wire brushed instead of washed to get the acne off? or like the michelin tire man... full of water

LOL ^^^

I never experienced any of these sides Thank God..

The Ai should help with gyno and bloat issues.

I have had moonface when I used deca in my cycles( bloat in the face, doesnt always occur though).

Merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 03:57 PM

All right I'm going to lie and tell you that this is my last question i'm going to ask you. (there will probably be more when i'm paranoid that Ive just picked up the SARs virus from my faulty test). But I was reading a post on letro and it says I should take .25mg ed for 2 weeks before my cycle starts and then keep taking that much throughout the whole cycle. Do you agree? And how the **** do you tell how many mgs comes out in a spray?

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by ImFreakingHuge

All right I'm going to lie and tell you that this is my last question i'm going to ask you. (there will probably be more when i'm paranoid that Ive just picked up the SARs virus from my faulty test). But I was reading a post on letro and it says I should take .25mg ed for 2 weeks before my cycle starts and then keep taking that much throughout the whole cycle. Do you agree? And how the **** do you tell how many mgs comes out in a spray?

hahahhaha

If you want to you can start the letro before your cycle.

You can try .25mg ED and see how it works for you. You might have to play with the dose.

Ok

Its best to get an oral syrige when using letro . They are dirt cheap at your local pharm, and give a accurate dose.

So if your letro is dosed at 2.5 mg / ml

Than

using an oral syringe

.25 mg is 0.1ml
.5 mg is 0.2 ml
1.0 mg is 0.4 ml

and so on..

Merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 04:43 PM

oh I about forgot, so when 500mg of testosterone hits my body at one time, are my fellas going to do a disappearing act and leave me with an empty sack or what... Maybe just turn in to huggies...?

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 05:40 PM

lol

Eveyone does not experience bad atrophy (shrinkage).

merc.

**ImFreakingHuge** · 09-03-2007, 09:10 PM

I'm a mother ****ing retard! Seriously, I don't know how I wipe my own ass and dress myself. I was taking some nolva after my last prohormone cycle and not joking i've been taking 2mg instead of 20mg of nolva (thought i was taking 1 ml actually was taking .1 ml. So i actually have 49ml of nolva left... so assuming I didnt have to use more then 380mg of nolva during my cycle i would have enough to use it during cycle and for PCT. So... geez i'm sorry for bothering everybody again. But should I just stick with using nolva during my cycle to fight gyno or do you think i should still use letro, and say i do use letro they say it takes a couple weeks for it to kick in so should i be using it all the way through for it to be effective? if thats confusing im sorry, like i previously stated... ****ing retarded

**RAPHIE** · 09-04-2007, 12:47 AM

lol,, he's funny

**Merc..** · 09-04-2007, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by ImFreakingHuge

I'm a mother ****ing retard! Seriously, I don't know how I wipe my own ass and dress myself. I was taking some nolva after my last prohormone cycle and not joking i've been taking 2mg instead of 20mg of nolva (thought i was taking 1 ml actually was taking .1 ml. So i actually have 49ml of nolva left... so assuming I didnt have to use more then 380mg of nolva during my cycle i would have enough to use it during cycle and for PCT. So... geez i'm sorry for bothering everybody again. But should I just stick with using nolva during my cycle to fight gyno or do you think i should still use letro, and say i do use letro they say it takes a couple weeks for it to kick in so should i be using it all the way through for it to be effective? if thats confusing im sorry, like i previously stated... ****ing retarded

hahahah lol

Like I said I have tried frontloading letro and have started it at the beginning of my cycle and I DIDNT notice any DIFFRENCE.

Also like I said above in my post above , it up to you in the end what you want to try . You could run your cycle with no AI or SERM ( begin your first cycle and you dont know how your body will responed to the test) and just keep your nolva on hand and if symptoms arise take the nolva until they subside. Keep in mind not everyone uses AI or serms while doing test cycle.

Could try the letro or the nolva if you want to.

Merc.