IM ON FIRE!!! simple advice not sure

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 12:40 PM

JUst askin about a good pct for my 2nd cycle
really want to keep it simple.

week
1-10 test enan. @500mgs
1-10 deca @300mgs
5 or 6-10 proviron @ 50mgs/day

Questions:
1. not sure if i need hcg
2. can i just take some nolva/prov. for 2-3 weeks
startin at around week 12.

any advice highly appreciated thank you

**Big** · 10-07-2007, 12:55 PM

this wasn't part of your question, but you should always run test a couple weeks longer than deca .

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 12:57 PM

ive read that allot. but i figured i was running a higher dose of test than deca . but im assuming your saying that because deca remains longer in you. no matter what dose correct?

and for my pct? please

**SidewayZ** · 10-07-2007, 03:09 PM

PCT- Nolva @ 20mgs/day spilt it 10/10 a day for that cycle this is more that enough.

I edited this should be 20mgs/day not 30mgs/day.

**nowdenlid** · 10-07-2007, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by g_style

PCT- Nolva @ 30mgs/day spilt it 10/10 a day for that cycle this is more that enough.

i disagree.................bad advise bro ............

**SidewayZ** · 10-07-2007, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

i disagree.................bad advise bro ............

Bad advice...then school us up. Plz.

**nowdenlid** · 10-07-2007, 04:52 PM

so you would realy be happy doing Nolva @ 20mgs/day spilt it 10/10 a day for that cycle?

no clomid?

i might of been wrong by saying bad advise but it is not the best pct one could go with ,thats all bro.

**SidewayZ** · 10-07-2007, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

so you would realy be happy doing Nolva @ 20mgs/day spilt it 10/10 a day for that cycle?

no clomid?

i might of been wrong by saying bad advise but it is not the best pct one could go with ,thats all bro.

Agreed may not be the best....but I believe it is better than clomid and more effective at a lower does than clomid. This PCT is simple and would work sell fo rthis cycle.

Check out this article...http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Po...y%20(PCT).html

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 05:17 PM

i know nolva alone might not be sufficient according to proper protocol.
but a lil nolva should help me get back to normal
reason being is that ima be taking 50mgs proviron till the end so my estrogen shouyld be somewhat at bay. no need to take more stuff(pct) to mess my levels up even more.

so pct- nolva @20 mgs for 2 weeks?

**nowdenlid** · 10-07-2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by g_style

Agreed may not be the best....but I believe it is better than clomid and more effective at a lower does than clomid. This PCT is simple and would work sell fo rthis cycle.

Check out this article...http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Po...y%20(PCT).html

thanks for the article bro,just from my experence i would go with clomid ,but then everyone is different ,let him do his reserch and make up his owm mind.

i think we pointed him in the right direction.

**nowdenlid** · 10-07-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Stefinoplex

i know nolva alone might not be sufficient according to proper protocol.
but a lil nolva should help me get back to normal
reason being is that ima be taking 50mgs proviron till the end so my estrogen shouyld be somewhat at bay. no need to take more stuff(pct) to mess my levels up even more.

so pct- nolva @20 mgs for 2 weeks?

whats your body fat ?

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 05:45 PM

5'8 178lbs around 12%bf

dude have you taken hcg ??or anyone who reads this.
cuz i need to make sure that.your suppose to use slin needles and inject like in the fat of your stomach, does this sound right. cuz im considering taking a lil hcg maybeee 2 shots of 1500iu to start off my pct. and 3.5 days between shots.

??

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 05:47 PM

by the way that was a good article .. anthony roberts is the man thanks for that

**Big** · 10-07-2007, 05:50 PM

I've used hcg , I use slin pins, pinch a small fold of skin near the belly button and inject sub-q there.

**nowdenlid** · 10-07-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Stefinoplex

5'8 178lbs around 12%bf

dude have you taken hcg ??or anyone who reads this.
cuz i need to make sure that.your suppose to use slin needles and inject like in the fat of your stomach, does this sound right. cuz im considering taking a lil hcg maybeee 2 shots of 1500iu to start off my pct. and 3.5 days between shots.

??

never taken hcg and i would say you dont need it bro,just go with a standard pct like nolva/clomd or if you feel that nolva alone will work for you go with that.

good luck .

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 05:53 PM

thank you soo much for that.. cuz all my fellow training buddies lack gear experience so they think they can just jam the glutes with it.in a regular old fashion aas shot.

is that possible or will the hcg just stay stuck in your ass. curious ???

**nowdenlid** · 10-07-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Stefinoplex

thank you soo much for that.. cuz all my fellow training buddies lack gear experience so they think they can just jam the glutes with it.in a regular old fashion aas shot.

is that possible or will the hcg just stay stuck in your ass. curious ???

yes it is possible to do i.m with hcg .

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 05:57 PM

well i might need hcg as the word is that deca is pretty suppressive i really dont want lag times in recovering or erectile disfunction . cuz my lady will not appreciate it. but im still not sure more likely sticking with nolva @20mgs for ??

actually how long would be a good duration for the nolva. just read my body i guess, was thinking maybe 3 weeks should be sufficient ..

then on to bigger and better things....tease

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

yes it is possible to do i.m with hcg .

so you can use hcg with a reg 23gauge in your glute..

please clarify

**Big** · 10-07-2007, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stefinoplex

so you can use hcg with a reg 23gauge in your glute..

please clarify

I'm sure you could but that is not the recommended way.

**Stefinoplex** · 10-07-2007, 06:11 PM

i guess no need for hcg with my cycle cuz deca @300 shouldnt be deadly.

prob will stick with just some nolva.

another quest. not sure on how to cycle the proviron .
i know i wanna take it cuz i dont want to balloon too much but when should i cut it or can i use it with the nolva for pct.

??