Nova for gyno reversal....I don't get it

**J-Dogg** · 11-15-2007, 12:12 PM

Alright, I'll make it simple.

I've taken 20mgs 3 times daily of Nova for a month and it actually did in fact take away my gyno. This is gyno that I've had for well over a year. Normally people simply say "It's too late the tissue has hardend, your only option is surgery".

If this was the case though, Nova would not break it up?

Though Nova does take it away, it comes back after 2 weeks after going off the nova cycle.

My real question....If nova takes it away...why does it come back?

Nova being a SERM i imagine competes with the estrogen to bind to the receptor. It must actually "evict" if you will the estrogren from the receptor. But after the nova is not present....why would the estrogen "re-bind"?

P.S.
After quiting Nova, there is no sore nips, ichy nips, nothing.

Note also:
Letro IMO is the wrong drug to suggest to people for a gyno reversal drug. I've used it and Nova is WAY better. Letro did nothing for me while Nova worked very fast. Letro being a AI seems it would only keep testosterone from converting, not clearing the receptors from the site.

**sorel_C** · 11-15-2007, 12:40 PM

quote:Letro being a AI seems it would only keep testosterone from converting, not clearing the receptors from the site.

not really,, a quick few ?'s,,, where you taking any anabolic /androgen,? what was your letro dose?

When i had a tiny bump, i took letro between 1.5mg to 2mg's for 4 weeks then went to nolva for 2 weeks n it never came back.

**Blackster1975** · 11-15-2007, 02:57 PM

where can i get letro and does it ship to the uk !

**J-Dogg** · 11-15-2007, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by cowboy-chris

quote:Letro being a AI seems it would only keep testosterone from converting, not clearing the receptors from the site.

not really,, a quick few ?'s,,, where you taking any anabolic /androgen,? what was your letro dose?

When i had a tiny bump, i took letro between 1.5mg to 2mg's for 4 weeks then went to nolva for 2 weeks n it never came back.

The cycle was Tren /Winny.

I'm currently taking letro with 20mgs of nova for this last week to avoid the estrogen rebound and hoping it will not come back.

Letro may have worked to take away your gyno because the test from your cycle was still converting, when the letro stopped the extra estrogen....the gyno subsided on its own. Smart move to use nova at the end though to avoid the rebound.

For prolonged gyno though, I don't think Letro is the drug of choice. I've read why different but from experince, I'm positive that Nova does work better to clear it up. I however am unsure what keeps it away.

I'm thinking perhaps a blood test for myself would be in order at this point to ensure that my test levels are proper. Maybe my estrogen levels are just high enough to make my tits this size.

**sorel_C** · 11-15-2007, 05:15 PM

i dont know how bad your gyno might be,, but getting it check'd defentialy does not hurt

**J-Dogg** · 11-15-2007, 05:24 PM

It's not that bad, but I definatly notice it and feel like everyone is looking at my left tit. I have absolutly none on my right.

A lot of people that use AAS end up with it, I'm just surprized the amount of information that is "not" out there on the gyno reversal, or lack of development of drugs anyway.

One thing people might want to look into is "falsodex" it is costly but will probably be the best PCT investment you could make. From what I understand it might even make you "gyno proof" for life by changing your estrogen receptors to "deflect" estrogen.

**J-Dogg** · 11-15-2007, 05:28 PM

How FASLODEX works
Hormone receptor-positive breast cancer is a type of breast cancer in which cells need the hormone estrogen to grow. In this type of cancer, estrogen is delivered into the breast cancer cells by message-carrying proteins called estrogen receptors.

Given by intramuscular (IM) injection once a month, FASLODEX works by binding to estrogen receptors, which blocks estrogen from binding. FASLODEX causes the estrogen receptor to change shape and not work as well. In addition, FASLODEX causes a decrease (downregulation) in the number of estrogen receptors. This may interfere with cancer cell activity, which, in part, may slow the growth of the breast cancer.

In clinical trials, FASLODEX was found to be effective when tamoxifen no longer worked.

**swol_je** · 11-15-2007, 05:34 PM

So if I have had gyno for about a year what do you think could possibly reverse it and keep it away?

**J-Dogg** · 11-15-2007, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by swol_je

So if I have had gyno for about a year what do you think could possibly reverse it and keep it away?

Mine is well over a year, probably over 2 years.

20mgs of Tamox 3 times daily and it is gone, problem is, when you quit, in a few weeks it will be back just as bad.

I've been trying to figure out how to "keep it gone" for a long time. Falsodex seems to be the best way to do it, but it is VERY costly. It would take over a grand to get enough for it to work. Finding a reliable seller for it is hard as it is not an option to buy at most underground labs.

IMO though, the 1k is at least 2k cheaper than surgry and I've seen so many indented nipples that make my extruded nipples look good...I'd rather stick with these tits.

**305GUY** · 11-15-2007, 08:33 PM

The bottom line is this: This game is about trial and error. One must understand that what affects someone in one way can affect another person the complete opposite way. An example is running nolva with 19nors. Before there was armidex and letro as available as it is now everyone ran nolva. most had no problems. yes ive seen the studies posted that nolva can increase Prg in some people. BUT NOT ALL, and i and many others are examples of that. Nolva reduces my 19nor induced gyno VERY WELL. For others it may not. The key is one has to find out for themselves.

**J-Dogg** · 11-15-2007, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

The bottom line is this: This game is about trial and error. One must understand that what affects someone in one way can affect another person the complete opposite way. An example is running nolva with 19nors. Before there was armidex and letro as available as it is now everyone ran nolva. most had no problems. yes ive seen the studies posted that nolva can increase Prg in some people. BUT NOT ALL, and i and many others are examples of that. Nolva reduces my 19nor induced gyno VERY WELL. For others it may not. The key is one has to find out for themselves.

I agree, I have some friends that don't even use PCT because they "hear" it can make them loose their gains. They have no problems for some reason.

Lucky bastards!