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    Test E PCT I'm sure its good.

    My plan


    Week:

    1-4 D-bol 40mg E/D

    1-10 Enth 500mg

    12-13 Clomid 50mg E/D Nolva 20mg E/D

    14-16 Clomid 25mg E/D Nolva 20mg E/D

    This is my first cycle and I don't want to push it with anything else, I believe I will gain just fine from this.

    I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions as for as any additions to what I have. I posted in pct because I wanted to get some opinions on my pct. Is there anything that might help me keep more gains?

    I have been in the gym for about 3 years I'm 6' about 190 around 12% bf.

    I am looking to purely bulk on this cycle, size is everything. My eating isn't as clean as it could be, I am trying to push my weight as high as I can get it before a mini cut in july.

    Supps I will be taking on cycle.

    White flood
    Micro Creatine mono
    On Gold Whey
    Fish Oil
    Multi V
    ZMA

    EDIT: I just found a source for my D-bol so I am adding it.
    Last edited by GiveEverything; 01-30-2009 at 11:37 PM.

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    I would wait 2 weeks after last shot of test e to start pct, putting pct starting at week 13, not 12.

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    I posted that wrong.

    I was planning on starting 2 weeks after last T shot.

    thanks for the reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiveEverything View Post
    My plan


    Week:

    1-10 Enth 500mg

    12-13 Clomid 50mg E/D Nolva 20mg E/D

    14-16 Clomid 25mg E/D Nolva 20mg E/D

    This is my first cycle and I don't want to push it with anything else, I believe I will gain just fine from this.

    I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions as for as any additions to what I have. I posted in pct because I wanted to get some opinions on my pct. Is there anything that might help me keep more gains?

    I have been in the gym for about 3 years I'm 6' about 190 around 12% bf.

    I am looking to purely bulk on this cycle, size is everything. My eating isn't as clean as it could be, I am trying to push my weight as high as I can get it before a mini cut in july.

    Supps I will be taking on cycle.

    White flood
    Micro Creatine mono
    On Gold Whey
    Fish Oil
    Multi V
    ZMA
    Looks like a pretty standard cycle...

    good luck.

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    I finally got my hands on some D-bol so i am adding it weeks 1-4 40mg everyday. Do I really need L-Dex to be added to this? I'm hoping I can finally start this damn thing already.

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    bump

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    You should consider running nolva or arimidex along your cycle mate. Nolva 10 mg ed or arimidex .25mg ed. I prefer arimidex (or LDEX).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBOCOP View Post
    You should consider running nolva or arimidex along your cycle mate. Nolva 10 mg ed or arimidex .25mg ed. I prefer arimidex (or LDEX).
    You don't HAVE to run this, BUT its definitely a good idea to have it on hand and ready if you are showing signs of estrogen sides.. I like the Adex as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    You don't HAVE to run this, BUT its definitely a good idea to have it on hand and ready if you are showing signs of estrogen sides.. I like the Adex as well
    Wouldn't running the nolva along from day one hurt my gains? I am now considering dropping the d-bol and possibly saving that for my next cycle. I dont want to run the risk of having estro sides without sufficient treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    You don't HAVE to run this, BUT its definitely a good idea to have it on hand and ready if you are showing signs of estrogen sides.. I like the Adex as well

    Agreed. I just advocate that prevention is better than cure and in my case its better for me to run the adex throughout the cycle. I dont think the quantity of .25mg of adex subdues the gains enough to not run it,,,,,,for me personally that is. I messed up my last cycle by not running the adex for the last 5 weeks cos I threw the pot out by mistake!!!!! Got a bit of gyno now! But, not everyone needs it,,,,,,I understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBOCOP View Post
    Agreed. I just advocate that prevention is better than cure and in my case its better for me to run the adex throughout the cycle. I dont think the quantity of .25mg of adex subdues the gains enough to not run it,,,,,,for me personally that is. I messed up my last cycle by not running the adex for the last 5 weeks cos I threw the pot out by mistake!!!!! Got a bit of gyno now! But, not everyone needs it,,,,,,I understand that.
    I agree^^^ I like to use adex in my cycles throughout at least at .25. better safe than sorry !!

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    So I would run my cycle as follows

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    1-4 D-bol 40mg E/D

    1-10 T Enth 500mg, Adex .25 E/D

    13-14 Clomid 50mg E/D Nolva 20mg E/D

    14-16 Clomid 25mg E/D Nolva 20mg E/D

    I may just get a small amount of adex to keep handy incase of sides. If I do start showing symptoms of estro sides I will start with Adex and Nolva.

    Most people I know will run Nolva at 10mg throughout their whole cycle but they are into the more extreme cycles. I figure if I am going to spend the money and quit being natural I should atleast do it right.

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    would running the d-bol at 50mg make things more difficult because that is the dosage of each one.

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    looks like you did your homework...good to see

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