I don't catch on..

**CharlieG** · 06-21-2009, 11:34 PM

Hi there, completely new to this all, got recommended to do some research before i shove anything in my mouth.

I just got my hands on dbol and I am keen on using it but I don't get the actual process of PCT.. I understand that it's more like a safety plan I have gathered that I need novladex, but for someone who has the suppliment, what do they do 1st. for e.g.

Day 1, do I take just swallow a dbol tablet like that and take nothing else? do i need to take something prior to taking it?
day 2? etc..

someone please help? very much appreciated

**rogue01** · 06-22-2009, 01:51 AM

What are your stats?

PCT is much more than a safety plan...it is to help rebound your natural hormone production. If you do not stimulate your natural production it will be very hard to keep any gains and could cause damage to your system.

**CharlieG** · 06-22-2009, 04:12 AM

i'm 20 years old, been training very actively for past 2-3 years. weigh around 85kg.

so what do i do now? i have the tabs infront of me, i think i gathered that i can't just start swallowing 1 every day for 4 weeks?

**2jz_calgary** · 06-22-2009, 01:38 PM

haha well ill be the first to say if you do a dbol only cycle you will be very dissapointed and lose your gains. Start reading up all the stickies in this forum. go to the pct section and start reading steroid profiles and newbie cycles.

**blah3d** · 06-22-2009, 01:52 PM

a dbol only cycle.............. uhhhh dude.... *WHACK* go read the board...

**kojak_x** · 06-22-2009, 02:59 PM

my understanding is that dbol is always run with some form of Test

**rogue01** · 06-23-2009, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by CharlieG

i'm 20 years old, been training very actively for past 2-3 years. weigh around 85kg.

so what do i do now? i have the tabs infront of me, i think i gathered that i can't just start swallowing 1 every day for 4 weeks?

You are going to get sh*t for only being 20... I would hold off a few years and make sure your diet is in check...but since when does a 20 year listen to any advice

**CharlieG** · 06-23-2009, 08:21 PM

I am the one listening, I don't think you are :/. .. I am saying that I KNOW i can't just take it on it's own.. so I am asking other then nov what else should I take with it?

**c-Z** · 06-23-2009, 09:12 PM

Your asking to run some serious risks running steroids at 20. Wait a couple years. How tall are you? For someone who doesn't know about PCT. I suggest you put that sh*t aside. And start learning. Don't just think you can shove this stuff in your body. And its a miracle worker. Understand these compounds before using.

**Trippensee** · 06-24-2009, 12:18 AM

Charlie being a smart ass with these dudes will get you no where fast. I'll answer you're question how every high post member would... "Search". You got your hands on dbol , congrats. Read, Read, Read before you start steroids . It's really complicated to actually do it correctly and most of all these guys here have all made the mistake somewhere and regret it. I hope this help..., I'm 19

**CharlieG** · 06-24-2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Your asking to run some serious risks running steroids at 20. Wait a couple years. How tall are you? For someone who doesn't know about PCT. I suggest you put that sh*t aside. And start learning. Don't just think you can shove this stuff in your body. And its a miracle worker. Understand these compounds before using.

I'm 5'10 .. I didn't say I'l just be shoving anyshit in my body just like that. I came to this forum because I came across some DBOL , realised I needed to do some research, I am doing so but I do find it hard to understand in simple terms.. Everything described is in figures/ammounts.. I have read the description on dbol and now I am asking, not being a smartass, Can I take Dbol whilst taking Nolva? I have been recommended to take 1 Dbol tablet in the morning for a 4 week period. Take 2 nolva at night. I also got told to take some tables to help flush your kidney.

It doesn't help when I'm being accused of being smart and simple blunt replies of "search".

**CharlieG** · 06-24-2009, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Trippensee

It's really complicated to actually do it correctly and most of all these guys here have all made the mistake somewhere and regret it. I hope this help..., I'm 19

correct, it is complicated.. it is hard to understand the learner topics.. hence this thread where i need it in clear simple language.. i.e. "take 1 tablet this time. this at that time.." not 500mgs of this mixed with 250ml of that..

**2jz_calgary** · 06-24-2009, 11:40 AM

dbol has a short half life so many take it every 4 hours spread out throughout the day. Nolva is taken to block estrogen from giving you bad side effects such as gyno. Dbol aromatizes into a potent estrogen too. If you were to take dbol id take the nolva in the morning and spread the dbol throughout the day. Dbol shouldent be run without test, and is only used as a kickstarter.sounds like you need to do lots of reaserch before you consider doing anything.

**Necrosaro** · 06-24-2009, 01:26 PM

To put it into simple terms PCT is used to recover your natural testostorne levels since you are getting something from a outside source; your internal source will either lower production or stop it all together. What PCT does is bring you back to your natural production levels.

As everyone has said before a dbol cycle only is a no-no. If you are hell bent on doing a cycle we can go till were blue in the face and it won't change however we can prepare you the best we can if you end up doing it. There are different amounts to oral tabs(mgs) which you must know before starting anything. Do some research before you do d-bol cycle to know what you are getting into. There is lots of information all around the web and here that will provide you what you need to know.

Once you have gone through the stickies here on the forums and have researched information about steroids then you can ask questions and we will gladly help you out.

**CharlieG** · 06-25-2009, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary

dbol has a short half life so many take it every 4 hours spread out throughout the day. Nolva is taken to block estrogen from giving you bad side effects such as gyno. Dbol aromatizes into a potent estrogen too. If you were to take dbol id take the nolva in the morning and spread the dbol throughout the day. Dbol shouldent be run without test, and is only used as a kickstarter.sounds like you need to do lots of reaserch before you consider doing anything.

Originally Posted by Necrosaro

To put it into simple terms PCT is used to recover your natural testostorne levels since you are getting something from a outside source; your internal source will either lower production or stop it all together. What PCT does is bring you back to your natural production levels.

As everyone has said before a dbol cycle only is a no-no. If you are hell bent on doing a cycle we can go till were blue in the face and it won't change however we can prepare you the best we can if you end up doing it. There are different amounts to oral tabs(mgs) which you must know before starting anything. Do some research before you do d-bol cycle to know what you are getting into. There is lots of information all around the web and here that will provide you what you need to know.

Once you have gone through the stickies here on the forums and have researched information about steroids then you can ask questions and we will gladly help you out.

thanks alot for the exellent replies.

**Free Will** · 06-25-2009, 03:09 AM

ok charlie here it is ....well you know your to young to take steroids but when you do start on them i recomend you run a test cycle first so your body can get a feel for steroids ...im 27 and im on my first ever cycle and im 2 weeks into it , i was advised to start on the test first and generally speaking and depending on what gear your on ...with the test you start your pct 14 days after last injection

**mouse78** · 06-25-2009, 11:10 AM

ok i am probably gonna say something that a lot of you will not agree with.

I started my first cycle when i was 18 years old after training for 4 years and having done a lot of reading and optimizing my diet and training. 20 years is still verry young but if this is what he want's to do let's just give him some advice to not let it turn into a total waiste.

d-bol only is not my first choice but i think beginners shouls stay away from test for at least the first few cycles.

I would suggest starting out with ( if you want to us ethe d-bol)

week 1-6 25mg d-bol day
week 1-6 200 mg of primobolan week.

take a pct with some chlomid or hcg .

if you deside that you are ready for as use make shure you know what you will be doing and that your training and diet are perfect to get max results