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07-07-2009, 06:56 AM #1New Member
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new cycle in two weeks need final pct help
alright as the title states I am about to start my second cycle and wanted to finalize the pct that I should do at the end. my first cycle was:
ANAVAR /TURINABOL CYCLE
WEEK 1-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 2-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 3-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 4-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 5-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 6-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 7-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
WEEK 8-40MG VAR/50MG TBOL EVERY DAY
VITAMINS WHILE ON CYCLE
WEEKS 1-12
MILK THISTLE 600MG/NAC 1000MG (PRO LIVER FROM PRIMA FORCE HAS BOTH) Milk Thistle
The classic liver protectant herb. Supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin 80% minimum powerful antioxidant/NAC Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione /ALA 300MG (PRIMA FORCE) powerful antioxidant that works in conjunction with biotin /BIOTIN 1000MCG NOW FOODS/FISH OR FLAX OIL Consuming lots of ***** fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad./POLICOSANOL 20MG-Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high./VITAMINS E 400-800IU & C 1000-2000MG help to protect cholesterol from the oxidation that is associated with CVD./NIACIN Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of time./BCAA (OPTIONAL)/PROTEIN POWDER(OPTIONAL)/OPTIMUM NUTRITION GLYCOMAIZE CARB POWDER(OPTIONAL)
POST CYCLE THERAPY
TAMOX/CLOMID-LIQUID MEASUREMENTS
WEEK 9-NOVA (TAMOX) 20MG/CLOMID 50 MG/NIACIN 1-2G EVERY DAY
WEEK 10-NOVA (TAMOX) 20MG/CLOMID 50 MG/NIACIN 1-2G EVERY DAY
WEEK 11-NOVA (TAMOX) 20MG/CLOMID 50 MG EVERY DAY
WEEK 12-NOVA (TAMOX) 20MG/CLOMID 50 MG EVERY DAY
my second one will be
wks 1-13 500mg test c
wks 1-12 600mg eq
wks 1-4 30mg Dbol
wks 8-13 60mg var
I planed on using pheendo's pct method of Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
now I want to run either novla or arimidex throughout the cycle which would you guys recomend for this cycle. don't really want to develop gyno then try to reverse it. I have everything I need except arimidex so if thats a better substance to run with the cycle I gotta get some before I begin. I have everything else but one thing I learned from these forums is don't start a cycle unless you have everything on hand.
stats are 33,5 11, 220, 12%bf, training for over 15 years
as for diet I plan on usuing this as a guide:
Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal
Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax
Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein
Workout
Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition
Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.
Meal 6:
Shake with Flax
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07-07-2009, 07:14 AM #2
Using 3 compounds you never used for a first injectable cycle is NOT the best way to go about doing things. How will you be able to tell which compound is doing what to your body both good or bad? What sides are coming from what compounds??
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07-07-2009, 07:32 AM #3
I agree with T-Mos about all those compounds.
Why don't you just do a Test c cycle ?
Are you gyno prone?
If not, don't take the nolva & arimidex but keep it on hand.
Your 1st cycle was 12 weeks, how long ago did you finish ?
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07-07-2009, 09:21 AM #4New Member
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march 21st of this year. as far as being gyno prone not sure don't really want to find out the hard way which is why I'd rather take something while on. the reason I don't just do a test only cycle is because each of the compounds I've chosen are supposed to provide different effects. when I was researching my first cycle a few people suggested I do a tbol or var only cycle. once again each of those compounds were supposed to provide a different effect which is why I chose to run them together. imo it was a great cycle for the goals I set forth and now I want to try the one I listed above. I had planned on starting that one the last week of august. pinning twice a wk sun and thurs.
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07-07-2009, 04:00 PM #5
Listen to the vets! You should just do the cyp, if need be dose it a bit higher. That's the
Cycle I'm planning. I've known people who've made great gains from cyp alone. Please
Keep in mind you've yet to do a real cycle as test should be the base of any cycle! And btw did
U manage to keep any gains from your first cycle??
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07-07-2009, 10:39 PM #6New Member
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I have maintained all my gains as well as strengh. after doing that cycle I realized that I should of run at least a low dose of prop while on the oral cycle. when I was lifting or doing any physical activity I was full of energy and felt as if I can go forever but on my down time I was real lethargic from low test. my blood test on cycle showed a test level of 43. everything I have read states that I should use test as a base and I shouldn't cycle eq alone or dbol alone and even var should be used with test to achieve the best results so what I have compiled is what I feel is a perfect second cycle. only two of the compounds aromatize thats the cyp and the dbols. eq has little to no sides and the only sides I saw with var was my cholesterol tanking. so the only posible negative affect from the cycle I have planned is gyno ,hair loss, and water retention which would come from the use of test. all I need to know is if pheendos pct is a good one for the cycle I have planed. based on the third response I am going to get some arimidex to have on hand I already have enough nolva to run throughout the cycle and pct. when I first asked about running tbol and var I was advised against It because of possible liver toxicity. after 5 weeks on the oral only cycle my liver values were the normal proper planning was the reason for this (pro liver). I wanted to include eq in that first cycle but one of the replys was to save it for a second cycle to run with test and thats what I intend on doing. no disrespect to the vets on here but I know my body well enough to say that I'm sure I will be fine on. its getting off that I want to make sure I do correctly.
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07-08-2009, 03:00 PM #7
do what your comfortable with, the cylcle i plan will be cyp and dbol i am going to run 10mg nolvadex ed and .25adex ed as well, i know lots of people say dont run nolva but i use the better safe than sorry modow. If your worried about hairloss run proscar or propecia at 1 mg a day (finasteride) that should prevent any dht from fckkin u around lol. I was able to get a prescription from my friend of proscar and it was like 70bucks for 30 5 mg tabs which is more than enough for a full cycle, more than worth the price in my eyes.
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07-10-2009, 02:57 PM #8New Member
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bump for a yay or a nay to my proposed PCT method.
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07-14-2009, 12:40 PM #9New Member
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one last bump anyone want to chime in? if not I guess I'll just have to figure it out on my own. there are so many pct methods up here so I guess I'll just grab one and hope for the best.
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