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    ralox/clomid for PCT . . .

    can't get hold of toremifene at present and wanted to avoid nolva . . .

    so ralox/clomid, woudl this be too weak in the hpta restoration department?

    could I add anything else other than torem/nolva?

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    ar-r has torem and its in stock, why not go there.

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    do they deliver to the UK now? have you used their product with success?

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    Ye they deliver to the UK.

    Rolax isnt that good for PCT, but is still effective. Its far more suited for treating/preventing gyno though.

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    Thanks Swifto, was really hoping you would chime in. Have learnt LOADS from you in the past few weeks. I have ordered some torem for my pct alongside clomid. Do you think ralox would cut it though run with clomid, given ralox is even more safe than torem?

    If you've got time would really appreciate it if you would look at my other post . . .

    Prami or NOT, Adex or NOT? HCG during or after?

    cheers buddy

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    Why do you want to avoid Tamox?

    Please dont say, because it a carcinogen and I might get cancer etc... Because I've read a stupid article?

    Tamox/Tore is my PCT and I recently bounced back after 16-17 weeks of shutdown after using HCG for 10-12 days at the end, AI during the cycle, then SERM use for 5 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Why do you want to avoid Tamox?

    Please dont say, because it a carcinogen and I might get cancer etc... Because I've read a stupid article?

    Tamox/Tore is my PCT and I recently bounced back after 16-17 weeks of shutdown after using HCG for 10-12 days at the end, AI during the cycle, then SERM use for 5 weeks.
    torem is less toxic isnt it? I thought you advocated the use of hcg during cycle? Or did it suit your cycle to run it at the end? No clomid in the pct?

    i've just started low dose test and npp, have everything on hand, but wasn't going to run it from day 1 since i'm running only a little test (>150/wk) there shouldn't be alot of estrogen floating around, and estrogen is required to synthesize any prog/prolactin issues?? Am I sort of on the same lines? Also is there anything you can do to avoid ed on deca ?

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    HCG on cycle with an AI.

    Keep caber and Tamox on hand uncise of gyno, but the AI should also control prolactin too.

    Tore is less toxic, but Tamox at 20mg/ED is more potent than Tore at 60mg/ED. I actually suggest 120mg/ED Tore for the first 7-14 days, then 60mh/ED. With Tamox 20mg/ED for 5-6 weeks.

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    so you recommend an ai even on a HRT dose of test, or is it becuase I am running hcg /npp with it?

    also would I need three SERMS for my pct, tore/tamox/clomid? Seems a bit overkill although I have them all . . .

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